Kohli deserves credit for Rohit the test opener

[Lone Wolf]

Just now, rkt.india said:

Rohit was the opener in Australia. He had missed first two tests due to injury.

Bhai talking about 2018/19 series..  And 2019 WI tour. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

Thank you Shaz, @Ankit_sharma03 please change the thread title & shower praises on Shastri

 

my opinion changed on shastri post aussie tour 

[Lone Wolf]

As pointed out earlier Rohit's massive WC campaign & Rahul's twin failures in Australia & WI tour led to Rohit opening in home games vs SA..  Nothing to do with Kohli. 

[adi B]

It was kind of a forced move with M Vijay and Raul declining and were kind of walking wkts at that time.

I'd say good for rohit he didn't fail in those early innings as an opener else rat would have shown him the door in a flash ,Rohit is now an established player in the team.

[neel roy]

19 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

We bash him for his endless foolish calls but when it works u gotta give credit . 

After years of overseas failure he kept faith and gave him 3rd position 1st and then opening (although their was a lot of public pressure for this ) but credit he took this call . Now he actually looks the best test batsman in this test team on form 

 

Also i hve learned a lesson my self , some time u need to back a player of this quality to extreme level. He has proved me wrong - i was always of the opinion around 2013-15 that he cant score overseas in any format and wont last as opener in any format when he travels abroad . Tottaly proven wrong

To be honest it was Ganguly who absolutely strongly made a point to get Rohit in team. He banged on about it for 2 years when rohit was the 6th choice after vijay dhawan rahul shaw mayank.. see these articles from 2018 2019. He was just cab President then..

 

2019

 

Cricket: Play Rohit Sharma as test opener, Sourav Ganguly tells India

Former Indian cricket captain Ganguly speaks at a ceremony in Agartala

MUMBAI (Reuters) - India must get limited-overs opener Rohit Sharma to serve the role in test cricket too, former captain Sourav Ganguly has said as the team ponder on their combination for Thursday's first test against West Indies in Antigua.

Rohit, 32, has cemented his place at the top of the batting order in the Twenty20 and 50-over formats and finished with most number of runs in the World Cup in England recently.

 

 

 

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/cricket-play-rohit-sharma-test-063120445.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvLnVrLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAC43Qyc-0jhTdOoEylMb2ZFx4r6_-HOgbjlx1mTh3NlS2YlBgxCvrfYzXUV9mRRHfVoBUeS2BWTmUy3NbqTrr0fwy3-9rt3QJLaY7hV6XheRbHBNVgy4a3g7in8chvHStdqkUla0S9rPB_uxGWb0X4c0ozTr8mAUwtKV3s5UhL6a

2018

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/rohit-sharma-should-be-included-for-australia-test-series-sourav-ganguly/story-gjWUtBPRQ4rgYJIHe6BGIO_amp.html

 

 

Edited September 5, 2021 by neel roy

[Vijy]

29 minutes ago, neel roy said:

To be honest it was Ganguly who absolutely strongly made a point to get Rohit in team. He banged on about it for 2 years when rohit was the 5th choice after vijay dhawan rahul shaw.. see these articles from 2018 2019. He was just cab President then..

 

2019

 

Cricket: Play Rohit Sharma as test opener, Sourav Ganguly tells India

Former Indian cricket captain Ganguly speaks at a ceremony in Agartala

MUMBAI (Reuters) - India must get limited-overs opener Rohit Sharma to serve the role in test cricket too, former captain Sourav Ganguly has said as the team ponder on their combination for Thursday's first test against West Indies in Antigua.

Rohit, 32, has cemented his place at the top of the batting order in the Twenty20 and 50-over formats and finished with most number of runs in the World Cup in England recently.

 

 

 

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/cricket-play-rohit-sharma-test-063120445.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvLnVrLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAC43Qyc-0jhTdOoEylMb2ZFx4r6_-HOgbjlx1mTh3NlS2YlBgxCvrfYzXUV9mRRHfVoBUeS2BWTmUy3NbqTrr0fwy3-9rt3QJLaY7hV6XheRbHBNVgy4a3g7in8chvHStdqkUla0S9rPB_uxGWb0X4c0ozTr8mAUwtKV3s5UhL6a

2018

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/rohit-sharma-should-be-included-for-australia-test-series-sourav-ganguly/story-gjWUtBPRQ4rgYJIHe6BGIO_amp.html

 

 

yes, ganguly had been insisting on it for a while.

[Ankit_sharma03]

35 minutes ago, neel roy said:

To be honest it was Ganguly who absolutely strongly made a point to get Rohit in team. He banged on about it for 2 years when rohit was the 5th choice after vijay dhawan rahul shaw.. see these articles from 2018 2019. He was just cab President then..

 

2019

 

Cricket: Play Rohit Sharma as test opener, Sourav Ganguly tells India

Former Indian cricket captain Ganguly speaks at a ceremony in Agartala

MUMBAI (Reuters) - India must get limited-overs opener Rohit Sharma to serve the role in test cricket too, former captain Sourav Ganguly has said as the team ponder on their combination for Thursday's first test against West Indies in Antigua.

Rohit, 32, has cemented his place at the top of the batting order in the Twenty20 and 50-over formats and finished with most number of runs in the World Cup in England recently.

 

 

 

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/cricket-play-rohit-sharma-test-063120445.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvLnVrLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAC43Qyc-0jhTdOoEylMb2ZFx4r6_-HOgbjlx1mTh3NlS2YlBgxCvrfYzXUV9mRRHfVoBUeS2BWTmUy3NbqTrr0fwy3-9rt3QJLaY7hV6XheRbHBNVgy4a3g7in8chvHStdqkUla0S9rPB_uxGWb0X4c0ozTr8mAUwtKV3s5UhL6a

2018

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/rohit-sharma-should-be-included-for-australia-test-series-sourav-ganguly/story-gjWUtBPRQ4rgYJIHe6BGIO_amp.html

 

 

 

it was everyone n public pressure coz our openers were failing to 

But still not a easy call to take when ur test stats overseas were very bad , i think at one time his overseas avg was lower then bhuvi ashwin 

 

Ganguly says anything anytime, he also not long before that said dhawan n rohit shudnt even travel overseas 

[Jay]

6 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Credit for what?

 

Was a cunning and devilish plan to finish Rohit's career. He was breathing down clown's neck after the IPL win and 2019 WC successes. In a normal world, anyone with even an iota of shame, would have resigned from captaincy for Rohit to take over. 

Damn I dint think of it like that. Good point. Jealousy can emanate from watching others succeed 

[Ankit_sharma03]

6 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Credit for what?

 

Was a cunning and devilish plan to finish Rohit's career. He was breathing down clown's neck after the IPL win and 2019 WC successes. In a normal world, anyone with even an iota of shame, would have resigned from captaincy for Rohit to take over. 

lets be honest thats how we think not kohli, which is why we are not international captains

Kohli has always regarded rohit very highly.....his 1st move as captain was to try to fit in Rohit in test, Ppl forget that he 1st tried it with no.3 in Australia in 2014

 

In sydeny pujara was dropped and Rohit was made to bat at 3, rohit scored 50

Next tour Lanka Rohit was pretty below avg n pujara played a great knock as an opener so Rohit lost his place again

 

 

Lets not insult our cricketer by calling them jealous n all. These are not 90s cricketers or Pakistani cricketers.

Kohli doesnt have to be jealous of ashwin or Rohit coz he himself has a huge stature. We said the same about dhoni in case of his peers.

 

A captain always thinks of teams better ment coz thats how his team will progress n he ll keep his job. You can disagree with him doesnt make him jealous. 

A cricketer who hasnt achieved anything may think like that not a guy who has credentials of a kohli or dhoni. 

 

Lets take ur thought even for a second still it doesnt make sense coz Rohit test career was going no where so he cudnt have ruined a career which was nowhere and in ODI cricket Rohit position cannot be even touched and he never even tried

 

[Vijy]

6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

We bash him for his endless foolish calls but when it works u gotta give credit . 

After years of overseas failure he kept faith and gave him 3rd position 1st and then opening (although their was a lot of public pressure for this ) but credit he took this call . Now he actually looks the best test batsman in this test team on form 

 

Also i hve learned a lesson my self , some time u need to back a player of this quality to extreme level. He has proved me wrong - i was always of the opinion around 2013-15 that he cant score overseas in any format and wont last as opener in any format when he travels abroad . Tottaly proven wrong

so, the longer the rope, the more high quality a player is.... Based on this logic, then rahane must have talent greater than bradman as per kohli. because this "batsman" has been failing for about 40 tests and still continues to play with impunity.

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, Vijy said:

so, the longer the rope, the more high quality a player is.... Based on this logic, then rahane must have talent greater than bradman as per kohli. because this "batsman" has been failing for about 40 tests and still continues to play with impunity.

 

Look rahane has been tough to drop coz of his inconsistency - whenever he has been almost on edge he gives a performance and that often has come in an overseas win. 

He was dropped in Sa for Rohit 

 

U think Rohit got longer rope....no. He was in n out of team

Rahane already made a reputation so his backing was based on that and in between runs kept coming. So Rohit n Rahane are  not same cases .

 

Now same will happen again..this cycle has harmed him n team both ways. 

[Vijy]

Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

Look rahane has been tough to drop coz of his inconsistency - whenever he has been almost on edge he gives a performance and that often has come in an overseas win. 

He was dropped in Sa for Rohit 

 

U think Rohit got longer rope....no. He was in n out of team

Rahane already made a reputation so his backing was based on that and in between runs kept coming. So Rohit n Rahane are  not same cases .

 

Now same will happen again..this cycle has harmed him n team both ways. 

Certainly rohit had a lengthy period where he was in and out, and now he has gotten a long rope (rightfully so). I brought up rahane because if someone is going to "credit" Kohli for playing Rohit as opener, then Kohli (not this so-called team management) can also take the "credit" for playing Rahane for 30-40 tests despite doing poorly.

Edited September 4, 2021 by Vijy

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, Vijy said:

Certainly rohit had a lengthy period where he was in and out, and now he has gotten a long rope (rightfully so). I brought up rahane because if someone is going to "credit" Kohli for playing Rohit as opener, then Kohli can also take the "credit" for playing Rahane for 30-40 tests despite doing poorly.

But we also the ones who abuse him of not backing someone , we were the one who abused him when he dropped him in SA

Someone needs backing when they are not scoring not

 

30-40 in total looks bad coz of last 10-12

 

If you take his last 3 yrs

Before 2019- he had 2 bad yrs, previous to that all good yrs

2019- he avg 71 (cant drop him after that)

2020- he avg 38 ( its not great not bad just avg kind)

20212 - 11 test 20 avg but all 3 dipped same time so all were on edge . They all kept scoring here n their 

 

Now rahane is on edge 

[Vijy]

29 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

But we also the ones who abuse him of not backing someone , we were the one who abused him when he dropped him in SA

Someone needs backing when they are not scoring not

 

30-40 in total looks bad coz of last 10-12

 

If you take his last 3 yrs

Before 2019- he had 2 bad yrs, previous to that all good yrs

2019- he avg 71 (cant drop him after that)

2020- he avg 38 ( its not great not bad just avg kind)

20212 - 11 test 20 avg but all 3 dipped same time so all were on edge . They all kept scoring here n their 

 

Now rahane is on edge 

should have been dropped by 2019, that's the point. moreover, yes it was the right decision to play rohit as opener (good for him). and continuing with rahane post-2019 was a poor choice. and especially after 2021 began.

[Vancouver]

How can a 34 years old batsman scoring 1st 100 abroad after 45 tests and 14 years after his international debut prove people right or wrong?

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

If Agarwal and Shaw had made full use of their chances instead of being sitting ducks Rohit would not have come back. Shaw/Agarwal failed in NZ. Gill was not played despite having wonderful tour game. It created an opening. 

[sarcastic]

1 hour ago, Vancouver said:

How can a 34 years old batsman scoring 1st 100 abroad after 45 tests and 14 years after his international debut prove people right or wrong?

 

 

What has his age to do with what is spoken here? 

 

It is his 43rd test match overall and 

His test debut is in 2013 and it is not even 8 years complete sine.

He did prove many people wrong... those who thought he can never score runs in SENA. 
And many people who have been surprised all this while why he could not score runs in test cricket like in LOI have got something to vindicate their acumen.

And people like VVS Laxman also commented "ROHIT'S STORY A GREAT LEARNING FOR YOUNGSTERS" in the cricinfo vlog today.


And yes, the question is not who he proved right/wrong but the question is "Does Virat Kohli deserve the credit for promoting Rohit as an opener?"

[rkt.india]

50 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

If Agarwal and Shaw had made full use of their chances instead of being sitting ducks Rohit would not have come back. Shaw/Agarwal failed in NZ. Gill was not played despite having wonderful tour game. It created an opening. 

Agarwal and Shaw had to fail overseas because of their technical glitches. 

[rollingstoned]

54 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

If Agarwal and Shaw had made full use of their chances instead of being sitting ducks Rohit would not have come back. Shaw/Agarwal failed in NZ. Gill was not played despite having wonderful tour game. It created an opening. 

This. at least abroad the inability of others proved to be Sharma's blessing. Still you have to take those chances and especially at a time when everyone was raving about his white ball exploits. 

[New guy]

3 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Agarwal and Shaw had to fail overseas because of their technical glitches. 

Kohli has similar technical glitches. Good players can often suceed despite that but need enough chances. Imagine if england 2014 was kohlis first series and he was dropped forever after that