Vancouver Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 Ban it till you lift everyone out of poverty, and improve standard of living. India has an army now, you don't need a religion anymore to unite people. It only divides people, so much violence and hatred among Indian populace. Unless India takes a drastic step, situation is not going to change for decades. ash and Alam_dar 2
Trichromatic Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 I used to think same way few years back. But without religion people will miss out festivals, time off and opportunities to meet families etc. vvvslaxman, ash, Lord and 2 others 2 1 2
Vancouver Posted October 23, 2021 Author Posted October 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Trichromatic said: I used to think same way few years back. But without religion people will miss out festivals, time off and opportunities to meet families etc. Consumerism has pretty much replaced religion when it comes to festivals, Western countries and China are good evidence. Hardly anyone is religious in these countries but festivals are still celebrated. Holi has a fun aspect like Halloween, Dhanteras is India's Black Friday Sale. Festivals like Holi, Lohri, Vaisaskhi etc are more cultural today than religious anyways. Diwali, Christmas and Eid are defining festivals, but I am sure no Muslim minds 3 days off from work during Diwali or good deals on Amazon. Chakdephatte, Alam_dar and I6MTW 3
ash Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Vancouver said: Ban it till you lift everyone out of poverty, and improve standard of living. India has an army now, you don't need a religion anymore to unite people. It only divides people, so much violence and hatred among Indian populace. Unless India takes a drastic step, situation is not going to change for decades. Not only India, should be the practice around the world. Just imagine the time, money, resources and collective effort of mankind that can be saved if we don't have religion and the problems surrounding it. Alam_dar and Vancouver 2
Alam_dar Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Vancouver said: Ban it till you lift everyone out of poverty, and improve standard of living. India has an army now, you don't need a religion anymore to unite people. It only divides people, so much violence and hatred among Indian populace. Unless India takes a drastic step, situation is not going to change for decades. For this, you will get aik puppy here and aik puppy there from Altaf Bhai. (I just hope you know Altaf Bhai) Mariyam 1
Austin 3:!6 Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 Dont agree. I believe in my god and want it to be respected. What right anyone has to take away my belief from me? Mariyam and coffee_rules 2
New guy Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 Dude let people do what they want. As long as they dont intefere in other people's lives, try to take over countries, opress others who are different, who cares. Its when its used by tool by countries or politicians its a problem. The common person practicing religion doesnt harm anyone Under_Score, Lord, Mariyam and 1 other 4
Swag Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 Problem is not religion but human beings with vested interests who use this to create conflict and division. Even if religion is abolished you would find something else take its place. Look at the West, divisions based on skin colour, politics,gender,weath etc. etc., it is never ending. Countless people live good lives based on their religious beliefs/reverence of God, if that is taken away it will be something society regrets long term. Austin 3:!6 1
EnterTheVoid Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 Wtf are we becoming. How about minding your own business? Live and let live.
ash Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 52 minutes ago, New guy said: As long as they dont intefere in other people's lives, That the problem isn't it. It always does interfere with other people's lives. I6MTW, Under_Score, Vancouver and 1 other 4
Mariyam Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Vancouver said: Ban it till you lift everyone out of poverty, and improve standard of living. India has an army now, you don't need a religion anymore to unite people. It only divides people, so much violence and hatred among Indian populace. Unless India takes a drastic step, situation is not going to change for decades. Why ban? It would at some point in the future automatically become less relevant. The change should be organic and not forced. Even today, religion is mainly about identity. Piety has taken a back seat and it has been that way for a long time now. Difficult to imagine an India totally shorn of its myriad religions. Austin 3:!6 1
ash Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Mariyam said: It would at some point in the future automatically become less relevant I used to think this would happen, but seems like we are actually going in reverse. Identity politics is actually increasing now, even among educated youth. Alam_dar and coffee_rules 1 1
Mariyam Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 1 hour ago, ash said: Not only India, should be the practice around the world. Just imagine the time, money, resources and collective effort of mankind that can be saved if we don't have religion and the problems surrounding it. You can also look at it the other way Religious tourism is a generator of revenue. Internal tourists mainly. We also have a lot of jobs associated with organized religion. Enforce a sudden blanket ban, and what happens to this lot?
ash Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Mariyam said: You can also look at it the other way Religious tourism is a generator of revenue. Internal tourists mainly. We also have a lot of jobs associated with organized religion. Enforce a sudden blanket ban, and what happens to this lot? A blanket ban is not possible, this is just a good topic to imagine the pros and cons of a world without religion. Revenue generation applies to all aging industries right? We talk a lot about EV cars and bikes, but then what will happen to the jobs associated with the petroleum industry. Right from the pumps, dealers, distributors, depots etc. Old religious sites can be maintained from a historical standpoint as a museum, but eventually the industry will move on if we stop the new sites. Alam_dar 1
Trichromatic Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 Maybe start banning religious organizations. Ankit_sharma03, Lord and Alam_dar 3
Lord Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 it should be a personal thing. Practice it but don't impose it on others or hurt others
Trichromatic Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lord said: it should be a personal thing. Practice it but don't impose it on others or hurt others It can't be a personal thing. How can Ganesh festival or Muharram be a personal thing when huge procession has to be carried out? It will remain social thing and will impact others also. ash 1
coffee_rules Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 What a fascist country that will be! We don’t want religion because there is an army? You don’t ban education because of a few bad teachers and horrible students. Ban the bad teachers and teach the students good education
Alam_dar Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 44 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: It can't be a personal thing. How can Ganesh festival or Muharram be a personal thing when huge procession has to be carried out? It will remain social thing and will impact others also. I am surprised to hear that there are such big Muharram processions in India that normal Indian people also know about it (while Shia Muslims are tiny minority and may be 2% to 3% of total Indian Muslim population). In Pakistan, we do have Muharram processions, but the biggest procession is of Eid Milad-un-Nabi (which happened 4 day ago).
Alam_dar Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: What a fascist country that will be! We don’t want religion because there is an army? You don’t ban education because of a few bad teachers and horrible students. Ban the bad teachers and teach the students good education "You Too Brutus" You may be right, but what I want to say is this that I usually hear this argument from Muslims. Edited October 23, 2021 by Alam_dar
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