Alam_dar Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 What lessons have been learnt? Does India need to strengthen it's batting more by bringing Ishaan, or should India strengthen it's bowling by bringing Shardul + Ashwin in the team? India was also missing the 6th bowling option today. But Ishaan could be helpful in negating the left arm bowling of Boult. 1st Option: As far as the team selection is concerned, then the first option is as following. Ishaant instead of out of form SYK, Shardul instead of Bhuvi (while Shardul can also bat) Ashwin instead of Pandya. (while Ashwin could also hold the bat too). The combined batting abilities of Shardul + Ashwin could replace the combined batting abilities of Pandya + Bhuvi. While the combined bowling abilities of Shardul + Ashwin are better then Bhuvi + Pandya 2nd Option is: Bring Ishaan instead of Pandya (i.e. to keep SKY too in the team along with Ishaan). This will strengthen the batting line up, but bowling line up will be missing the 6th bowling option. Even if Varun is also replaced by Ashwin, still the 6th bowling option is missing. Bhuvi could also be replaced by Shardul. 3rd option is: Don't change the batting combination, and only change the bowlers ... i.e. Shardul instead of bhuvi and/or Ashwin instead of Varun. Who should bat at No. 3 ? Ishaan or Kohli? Bowling Combination: Who should start the attack? Most probably it should be Shammi. Which other bowlers should be used in the power play? Varun? If Shardul and Ashwin could also bowl in the power play? Link to comment
Adi_91 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 It is wrong to suggest SKY is out of form. I don't think you watched the IPL towards the latter stages and the warm-up games. Frankly, I don't see much reason to change except Hardik and Bhuvi. The rest of the team just underperformed today. I don't think the bowling was upto the mark and most days these guys deliver. Not today. So it was an off day. rahulrulezz and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Adi_91 said: It is wrong to suggest SKY is out of form. I don't think you watched the IPL towards the latter stages and the warm-up games. Frankly, I don't see much reason to change except Hardik and Bhuvi. The rest of the team just underperformed today. I don't think the bowling was upto the mark and most days these guys deliver. Not today. So it was an off day. Sky played one good knock in a nothing to lose situation. It was propelled by Ishan. Link to comment
IndianRenegade Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Adi_91 said: It is wrong to suggest SKY is out of form. I don't think you watched the IPL towards the latter stages and the warm-up games. Frankly, I don't see much reason to change except Hardik and Bhuvi. The rest of the team just underperformed today. I don't think the bowling was upto the mark and most days these guys deliver. Not today. So it was an off day. Precisely, Hardik’s fitness seems to have been a problem for long now. Don’t understand what he is doing batting below Jaddu. If the team doesn’t trust him to bat ahead of Jaddu then he shouldn’t be in the team as he isn’t going to bat. Will get Ishan in his place. bhuvi has been bad for some time now, please end his misery. Thakur in his place. shami’s t20 record doesn’t seem very promising, not sure if we have a good replacement for him without siraj in the squad. Link to comment
Adi_91 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Just now, IndianRenegade said: Precisely, Hardik’s fitness seems to have been a problem for long now. Don’t understand what he is doing batting below Jaddu. If the team doesn’t trust him to bat ahead of Jaddu then he shouldn’t be in the team as he isn’t going to bat. Will get Ishan in his place. bhuvi has been bad for some time now, please end his misery. Thakur in his place. shami’s t20 record doesn’t seem very promising, not sure if we have a good replacement for him without siraj in the squad. Agreed. I was not happy when I heard our captain saying at the toss about the 4 players who were sitting out. I was aghast when I heard Thakur's name! I was really hoping Pandya was asked to sit out until his bowling was sorted out. Shami, I thought was picking wickets in the PP in the IPL. Correct me, if it was not consistently the case. Link to comment
zen Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, Alam_dar said: The combined batting abilities of Shardul + Ashwin could replace the combined batting abilities of Pandya + Bhuvi. Note that SDP (Hardik) had the highest SR for India in the game despite only batting in the last 2 overs without getting his eye in. Got out going for a 6 on a difficult ball (no option). Without his boundaries including producing an overthrow, Ind would not have even reached 150. Banton and Alam_dar 1 1 Link to comment
zen Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 As for the 11, does not matter who Ind plays. Just go out and play positive cricket. NZ could stifle Ind too with smart bowling changes. Link to comment
cricketfan28 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 NZ should lose to pak... that will put pressure on Nz and will help us. if pak wins against nz hopefully we can emulate that. Link to comment
kosingh Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Even without the dew factor, chasing is our only hope. In T20s I don't see India batting at a high SR when batting first. Even if we don't lose wickets, we have too many players who want to play the unnecessary sheet anchor role. nitinbwj, rahulrulezz, Alam_dar and 2 others 2 1 2 Link to comment
diga Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Our entire bowling was off color yesterday... Except for Shardul, we dont have a backup pacer too. In the absence of Pandya bowling, it will be difficult to find a bowling combination which can work in conditions affected by dew. express bowling 1 Link to comment
kosingh Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 out of all countries India has played T20s against, our worst record is against NZ Link to comment
IndianRenegade Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Adi_91 said: Agreed. I was not happy when I heard our captain saying at the toss about the 4 players who were sitting out. I was aghast when I heard Thakur's name! I was really hoping Pandya was asked to sit out until his bowling was sorted out. Shami, I thought was picking wickets in the PP in the IPL. Correct me, if it was not consistently the case. He was good in IPL, but his general T20I record is not good for a player like Shami. Adi_91 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 India should have two spinners against NZ. Ashwin is a must for this game. Alam_dar and SRT100 1 1 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Khota said: India should have two spinners against NZ. Ashwin is a must for this game. lol I remember that thought for the 4th Test v England. Kohli wont pick him. Kohli is like a suicide bomber at the moment, he will destroy the Indian T20 team before handing it over to anyone else. nitinbwj 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Strategy is simple. Lose the toss and get ripped open by Boult, Let Williamson take NZ home aramse. Have a laugh with KW post match. Rinse and repeat. This is what has been happening with NZ encounters. Norman and SRT100 1 1 Link to comment
Pollack Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Ashwin should come in for Chakraborty if at all and not for Pandya we don't have like for like replacement for Pandya in the squad. Bhuvi should definitely be replaced by Shardul. Alam_dar 1 Link to comment
Alam_dar Posted October 25, 2021 Author Share Posted October 25, 2021 29 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Strategy is simple. Lose the toss and get ripped open by Boult, Let Williamson take NZ home aramse. Have a laugh with KW post match. Rinse and repeat. This is what has been happening with NZ encounters. This streak against NZ should end, as the Pakistan ended the streak against India today. Link to comment
mishra Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Strip kohli off captaincy else torture will continue. nitinbwj and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 7 hours ago, SRT100 said: lol I remember that thought for the 4th Test v England. Kohli wont pick him. Kohli is like a suicide bomber at the moment, he will destroy the Indian T20 team before handing it over to anyone else. Ashwin is a must against NZ. Not against Pakistan. In England I can understand what he did. Link to comment
SRT100 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, Khota said: Ashwin is a must against NZ. Not against Pakistan. In England I can understand what he did. If he is a must, then Kohli wont pick him. Link to comment
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