Is Dinesh Karthik the best T20 finisher that India is looking for

[sarcastic]

He seems to be so reliable when the target is set and he knows what needs to do with clarity.

Don't make him build an innings like in WC 2019 semi-finals (that anyways is ODIs). Allow him to finish games in T20I format like he did in Nidahas finals.
He will not disappoint the team and bring it out of rut in tight situations such as in today's IPL match vs RR.

Mind you, RR is not  a simple IPL team. They have Boult, Prasid Krishna, Saini, Ashwin and Chahal: five international calibre bowlers in their ranks and DK still pulls it off.

Edited April 13, 2022 by sarcastic

[sarcastic]

He seems to be so reliable when the target is set and he knows what he needs to do with clarity.

Don't make him build an innings like in WC 2019 semi-finals (that anyways is ODIs). Allow him to finish games in T20I format like he did in Nidahas finals.
He will not disappoint the team and bring it out of rut in tight situations such as in today's IPL match vs RR.

Mind you, RR is not  a simple IPL team. They have Boult, Prasid Krishna, Saini, Ashwin and Chahal: five international calibre bowlers in their ranks and DK still pulls it off.

Edited April 5, 2022 by sarcastic

[sarcastic]

Mods, please delete this thread as there is another one.

[putrevus]

He has been best finisher for last ten years.Dhoni playing over DK has WK in t20s was a sin.Dhoni was never good in t20s even in 2007.DK 's main problem is not phsyical but mental.

[vvvslaxman]

He is 36. Too late to back him despite the fact not many in INdia can do his role. Sky is our closest bet. KL Rahul has to unshackle himself to play that role. If he can do that he can play that role.  Only way you can make him do that is by playing him way down the order purposely.

[putrevus]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

He is 36. Too late to back him despite the fact not many in INdia can do his role. Sky is our closest bet. KL Rahul has to unshackle himself to play that role. If he can do that he can play that role.  Only way you can make him do that is by playing him way down the order purposely.

They should have groomed Rahul to be WK batsman in shorter formats.Like DK Rahul also has mental issues. 

[raki05]

One thing I can easily say that he has never cheated his age at any stage of life by looking at his performance.

[vvvslaxman]

 

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

They should have groomed Rahul to be WK batsman in shorter formats.Like DK Rahul also has mental issues. 

 

His place is more secure than ever. Even became captain of Test/ODI. So he cannot hide behind the excuse "his place is not certain". He has to step up to the plate. He is a senior now. 

[Austin 3:!6]

With all the drama of Thala being a great finisher, I have seen DK finished many more games playing for both India and in IPL.

[putrevus]

9 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

 

His place is more secure than ever. Even became captain of Test/ODI. So he cannot hide behind the excuse "his place is not certain". He has to step up to the plate. He is a senior now. 

I don't think he will, he will crumble under pressure like DK. Some people just cannot handle pressure. People tend to forget both DK and Rahul played in that semi final in 2019 also.

 

Inzi did not play that matches before or during 1992 world cup.But he played  in semi final knock. Same with Collis King in 1979. You don't have to play 4 years at number to do well in world cup or big matches.

Edited April 5, 2022 by putrevus

[vvvslaxman]

38 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I don't think he will, he will crumble under pressure like DK. Some people just cannot handle pressure. People tend to forget both DK and Rahul played in that semi final in 2019 also.

 

Inzi did not play that matches before or during 1992 world cup.But he played  in semi final knock. Same with Collis King in 1979. You don't have to play 4 years at number to do well in world cup or big matches.

 

More than the pressure it is his fidgety nature. It is well known he is extremely hyper. It really stifled his international career. When you put himself in a situation where you have to think calmly and pace your innings (like Dhoni does) he comes up short.  Otherwise he is a good player pressure or no pressure. He can literally get out for nothing in a totally pressure free situation. 

 

 

[putrevus]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

More than the pressure it is his fidgety nature. It is well known he is extremely hyper. It really stifled his international career. When you put himself in a situation where you have to think calmly and pace your innings (like Dhoni does) he comes up short.  Otherwise he is a good player pressure or no pressure. He can literally get out for nothing in a totally pressure free situation. 

 

 

I think , DK cannot handle pressure either.He was the number 1 keeper in England before Pant took over.He simply could not handle that presurre both as a batsman and keeper.He did samething in Srilanka in 2008 when Dhoni opted to rest in the test series.

 

They had to drop DK and get Partiv Patel of all people to play thrid test.

[bowl_out]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

He is 36. Too late to back him despite the fact not many in INdia can do his role. Sky is our closest bet. KL Rahul has to unshackle himself to play that role. If he can do that he can play that role.  Only way you can make him do that is by playing him way down the order purposely.

 

Doesn't matter.. He is still fit and able, and can go 2-3 years at least.. maybe till 2024.. the problem is whether playing only one format, that too the shortest format alone is sustainable

[vvvslaxman]

11 minutes ago, bowl_out said:

 

Doesn't matter.. He is still fit and able, and can go 2-3 years at least.. maybe till 2024.. the problem is whether playing only one format, that too the shortest format alone is sustainable

 

He has amazing reflexes for his age.  Our gym freak Kohli already looked like he is 40. DK hasn't lost much in terms of reflexes. He runs faster than Prithvi shaw. 

[putrevus]

Kohli needs to step away from spotlight and get back to domestic cricket for a season if he wants a second innings.He has too many holes in his game right now.All these players like DK , FAF have stepped away and worked on their game .When you are in funk like Kohli, you need to take a break.

Edited April 5, 2022 by putrevus

[Jay]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

More than the pressure it is his fidgety nature. It is well known he is extremely hyper. It really stifled his international career. When you put himself in a situation where you have to think calmly and pace your innings (like Dhoni does) he comes up short.  Otherwise he is a good player pressure or no pressure. He can literally get out for nothing in a totally pressure free situation. 

 

 

He actually surprised me with his game vs pace. He seems better vs pace and bounce. 

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

He actually surprised me with his game vs pace. He seems better vs pace and bounce. 

 

Reason why he is so successful is because his use of his crease. He can stand outside, well inside, on the crease different positions against different bowlers and gets into good positions.  Very first time was in a challenger Trophy. Rohit sharma played in the same match.  I still remember Rohan gavaskar was the commentator.  Stand out player was DK. Made 85 in 60 odd balls. He played some outrageous shots. Behind the keeper shot was stunning. 

[Jay]

4 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Reason why he is so successful is because his use of his crease. He can stand outside, well inside, on the crease different positions against different bowlers and gets into good positions.  Very first time was in a challenger Trophy. Rohit sharma played in the same match.  I still remember Rohan gavaskar was the commentator.  Stand out player was DK. Made 85 in 60 odd balls. He played some outrageous shots. Behind the keeper shot was stunning. 

What a wasted talent. I remember him opening vs england a long time back. He scored 50s in very tough conditions 

[sandeep]

11 minutes ago, Jay said:

What a wasted talent. I remember him opening vs england a long time back. He scored 50s in very tough conditions 

Those conditions were more flat than tough, but yes, "KKDK" is a wasted talent.  He could have reached ABDV heights - a lot in common - both were 'keeper bats who played as specialist bats often - just that DK was never consistent and lost his spot to Dhoni and others.

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

With all the drama of Thala being a great finisher, I have seen DK finished many more games playing for both India and in IPL.

Thala was a great finisher in ODI , but he was never good in international t20. IPL he has been good

DK has been excellent in IPL and watever lil he played for india in t20 

 

DK has been tried in all roles other then the one he was good at thats finishing. We send him at 4 in 2019 Wc, innings building wasnt his strength .

DK finished the 1st ever t20 india played and even after many years the famous nidhas 

 

We never tried him n gave him a full time role at finishing, RCB currently is doing that and he has done well for them in this season for all the chances he got till now