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Why is this government so ineffictive at communicating?

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Every time they announce a new policy, there is ton of confusion.

 

Farmers with farm bills, muslims with CAA, traders with GST, now military aspirants with agniveer. Why can't they start the conversation slowly, build up some momentum and support for the said policy among public, have some discussions with the stakeholders before announcing them? Everytime its helter skelter, they announce it all of a sudden and say you are either with us or against us and turn it into some war like situation 

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1 minute ago, ravishingravi said:

I think there are two issue. Problem of communication. For sure. Then problem of anticipation. If we know that there is a set of piece waiting to cause chaos, if you don't shut them down ruthlessly, no amount of communication will help. 

So even before they announce it, they admit that its a war and prepare for shock and awe? 

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2 minutes ago, Serpico said:

So even before they announce it, they admit that its a war and prepare for shock and awe? 

 

Anticipation is not preemptive attack. You could roughly guess where the threat was coming from for CAA, Farm Bill or this Agniveer programs. Nuisance values should be shut down before hand. Otherwise no good policy will ever go through. 

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4 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

 

Anticipation is not preemptive attack. You could roughly guess where the threat was coming from for CAA, Farm Bill or this Agniveer programs. Nuisance values should be shut down before hand. Otherwise no good policy will ever go through. 

Well they're not even anticipating anything. If they did, they could have added more security in the cantonment areas across the country. They just announced as if they're doing a favour to everyone and everyone will celebrate this 

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In any large country, making economic policies means some people win, and some people lose out/miss out. Yet, in India, instead of thinking about the betterment of society, these people who miss out think they are also entitled to it and resort to anarchy. Their argument is nothing, not about better policies. The idea that some people and society over them are getting benefits is jealously for them. The idea of competition, free markets is just scary...

 

It's not about the GOI anymore. The fact is India loves the status quo, and any changes is deemed flawed and wrong by default. The idea that everybody needs to be happy for the country to move, has meant that we don't solve problems, and do nothing about it. Today, we are struck with century old problems. After all, doing nothing means no side feels unfair done by any policies

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6 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

 

 

The problem with his analysis is he wants to create more stakeholders, and that ultimately always means no work gets done.

 

More stakeholders means more veto power and more confusion. That was why many things failed in the past. Today, this government wants a top-down approach which is correct at least on paper. The big players and leaders are committed and consulted to the project, and that should be good enough.

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16 hours ago, someone said:

 

The problem with his analysis is he wants to create more stakeholders, and that ultimately always means no work gets done.

 

More stakeholders means more veto power and more confusion. That was why many things failed in the past. Today, this government wants a top-down approach which is correct at least on paper. The big players and leaders are committed and consulted to the project, and that should be good enough.

Top down approach worked until CAA. Before it could be implemented. Covid happened. The failures gave opposition a means to fight. Farm laws, protest and repeal is the crux of the issue. Now, any opposition follows that toolkit. Raste pe uttar aao aur gormint maanegi. This Modi/Shah leadership model needs to change 

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7 hours ago, ash said:

Lol what miscommunication. With so many changes and updates that the govt is doing to the scheme, it is pretty clear that this was a half baked attempt without proper study done. 

Govt want to avoid pension plans and cut costs. The current expenditure is very high. People are addicted to the current schemes and find it difficult to move on.

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On 6/17/2022 at 6:37 PM, someone said:

In any large country, making economic policies means some people win, and some people lose out/miss out. Yet, in India, instead of thinking about the betterment of society, these people who miss out think they are also entitled to it and resort to anarchy. Their argument is nothing, not about better policies. The idea that some people and society over them are getting benefits is jealously for them. The idea of competition, free markets is just scary...

 

It's not about the GOI anymore. The fact is India loves the status quo, and any changes is deemed flawed and wrong by default. The idea that everybody needs to be happy for the country to move, has meant that we don't solve problems, and do nothing about it. Today, we are struck with century old problems. After all, doing nothing means no side feels unfair done by any policies

Well said.  Govt approach is go ahead announce changes and when people protest we will conceed x y or z points and honestly 130cr population that is the only way forward. This discussion, parliamentary committee blah blah is another way of saying operation successful but patient is dead. 

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This government is lucky to have army of crores of supporters which are supporting this government because of Hindutva. They will go to any length to support it. Previous governments had to face protest for no fault of their. 

 

Indira Gandhi divided Pakistan in two . What happened after two years, protest  started because of inflation caused by oil Manmohan faced protest in 2011 because stupid lokpal and then in 2012 for nirbhaya.both of time government did not introduced anything . Protest happened because of opposition and sake of protest . BJP is lucky not to face protest like those.

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48 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

This government is lucky to have army of crores of supporters which are supporting this government because of Hindutva. They will go to any length to support it. Previous governments had to face protest for no fault of their. 

 

Indira Gandhi divided Pakistan in two . What happened after two years, protest  started because of inflation caused by oil Manmohan faced protest in 2011 because stupid lokpal and then in 2012 for nirbhaya.both of time government did not introduced anything . Protest happened because of opposition and sake of protest . BJP is lucky not to face protest like those.


Organized vs organic protests that’s the difference. The current govt did face protests with comments by nirpur and agnipath. But both seem to be organized. Organized will loose steam after money dries up. Organic protests are a bit hard.Farmer issue was hybrid they did take the bill back in that instance. 

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1 hour ago, Singh bling said:

This government is lucky to have army of crores of supporters which are supporting this government because of Hindutva. They will go to any length to support it. Previous governments had to face protest for no fault of their. 

 

 

 

You know's that BS. The opposition, whose entire vote bank is based on negativity, aka anti-BJP, their own narrative.  Whereas, majority BJP supporters are for pro-reasons, for the parties actions and achievements. Thus, there is some disillusionment nowadays among BJP supporters due to party's inactions on the policies.

 

If anything, it's embarrassing to see grown ups supporting likes of RaGa. Can't name a single achievement of him in 5 years, 10 years, or 15 years. And now, Uddhav is the new champion for the opposition. Completely oxymoron and negative vote only.

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