Lone Wolf Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Sangam literature claiming Aryan invasion is highly debatable in terms of interpretation. Moreover chronologically there are absurd predictions of timelines of Sangam that don’t align with even western historians. If you are debating from Wikipedia historians then you can’t be so very right . Our puranas timelines don’t match with the western historians’ and it is debatable While interpretation is indeed dodgy.. But in this rare case timeline fits exactly... Nedunjcheliyan I ( 270 BCE) or Aariya Padai kadantha Nedunjezhiya Pandiyan (A Pandyan King who defeated the Aryan intrusion) who in fact is Bindusara not a rig vedic so called Aryan... Edited July 13, 2022 by Lone Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianRenegade Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 14 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Ashokan pillar edicts name the areas where he said that war of Dharma has been won & he mentioned it extends up to Tamraparni river in the extreme south. Also accounts say that he was chief guest in a Pandyan court once. So they were kinda like vassal states on a friendly term. It's not mentioned that he conquered these lands like his father Bindusara who tried very hard... But got repelled by combined forces of Moovendras (Chera + Chola +Pandya) In fact he tried multiple times in a span of 13 years. He succeeded in establishing his bases on the outskirts of these kingdoms like Thulu Nadu (pazhi fort).. But wasn't able to advance further. This is the same expedition that Sangam literature calls large so called Aryan invasion into Tamil land. This is complete misreading of the Edict, the edict doesn't say Ashoka won a war, but it is talking about spread of Buddhism. The Edict in fact says that this is different from violent war. Going by your interpretation are you claiming Ptolemy, Antigonos, Magas and Alexander are vasals of Ashoka? Quote Now it is conquest by Dhamma that Beloved-of-the-Gods considers to be the best conquest.[27] And it (conquest by Dhamma) has been won here, on the borders, even six hundred yojanas away, where the Greek king Antiochos rules, beyond there where the four kings named Ptolemy, Antigonos, Magas and Alexander rule, likewise in the south among the Cholas, the Pandyas, and as far as Tamraparni.[28] Here in the king's domain among the Greeks, the Kambojas, the Nabhakas, the Nabhapamkits, the Bhojas, the Pitinikas, the Andhras and the Palidas, everywhere people are following Beloved-of-the-Gods' instructions in Dhamma. Even where Beloved-of-the-Gods' envoys have not been, these people too, having heard of the practice of Dhamma and the ordinances and instructions in Dhamma given by Beloved-of-the-Gods, are following it and will continue to do so. This conquest has been won everywhere, and it gives great joy -- the joy which only conquest by Dhamma can give. But even this joy is of little consequence. Beloved-of-the-Gods considers the great fruit to be experienced in the next world to be more important. I have had this Dhamma edict written so that my sons and great-grandsons may not consider making new conquests, or that if military conquests are made, that they be done with forbearance and light punishment, or better still, that they consider making conquest by Dhamma only, for that bears fruit in this world and the next. May all their intense devotion be given to this which has a result in this world and the next. Vilander 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 16 hours ago, Vilander said: In your mind probably not for Tamils. not sure why you are getting all worked up for. I'm talking about the cinematic resemblance, which is undeniable. You are free to put your head in the sand though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 5 hours ago, sandeep said: not sure why you are getting all worked up for. I'm talking about the cinematic resemblance, which is undeniable. You are free to put your head in the sand though. Who the * cares about cinematic resemblance it some ape **** wood ofcourse it will all look the same. Ponnien selvan was a very fine novel written by Kalki its original material you are out of your depth trying to tell Tamils that its copied. sandeep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 This is a cult novel in Tamil literature. Many directors attempted and never got to realize it. Maniratnam casting of Aishwarya rai is likely to be a failure. He may very well mess this one up. Too many big names is never a good idea in an epic movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 On 7/8/2022 at 8:19 PM, coffee_rules said: It was his dream project as he wanted to do it in the 90s. Don’t know why Aishwarya has become his muse. Double role for her. I just don’t get his fascination for casting Rai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: I just don’t get his fascination for casting Rai. His Muse? She started her film career in his movie Edited July 28, 2022 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: His Muse? She started her film career in his movie For sure, but this is non sense. Apart from being sub par actress, she doesn't fit the parts. Starting from Iruvar, I can only imagine that Mani is smitten. There is no other justification. Edited July 28, 2022 by ravishingravi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 nevada, velu, Clarke and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putrevus Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 On 7/12/2022 at 10:26 PM, Vilander said: Lol… cholas ruled for 1200 years they are one of the longest historical dynasty in the world ( longest in India by a country mile lol) , only imperial house of Japan ( Yamato) who are currently attested ( modern day ) have survived longer.. they were at their peak the largest maritime Indian empire as well. hehe so ignorant Just curious what do you think happened to the immense wealth of Cholas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, putrevus said: Just curious what do you think happened to the immense wealth of Cholas. Annexed by neighbor kings , like Pandya, Hoysalas, Sinhala kings and later on by , Bahamanis and lastly Moghuls Edited October 1, 2022 by coffee_rules putrevus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 5 hours ago, putrevus said: Just curious what do you think happened to the immense wealth of Cholas. Killed off taken over same thing that happens to every empire, fact is they endured longer than any other Tamil empire or Indian empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 On 7/27/2022 at 1:04 PM, vvvslaxman said: This is a cult novel in Tamil literature. Many directors attempted and never got to realize it. Maniratnam casting of Aishwarya rai is likely to be a failure. He may very well mess this one up. Too many big names is never a good idea in an epic movie. She has no acting ability, no ability to lip sync even. does not look pretty either now lol. Must be maniratnams friend probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 27 minutes ago, Vilander said: She has no acting ability, no ability to lip sync even. does not look pretty either now lol. Must be maniratnams friend probably. I cannot believe how he offered so many movies to her even when she was young. At this age she is playing a 25 year old character in the novel. Stan AF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 PS novel in itself is fictitious tale. Hearing some hindu offending stuff is shown in the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ravishingravi Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Seems like Mani has a winner. Let’s see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 It has a budget of 500 cr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 18 minutes ago, rkt.india said: It has a budget of 500 cr. Both movies 1&2 included? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Both movies 1&2 included? I think both parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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