India while batting first in T20Is in 2022

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

[sandeep]

I like this idea of rotating the top order slots and even openers.  Matchups and planning for them is becoming so important in these short T20 games, and its one of Indian team's strengths that we have so many quality batsmen who are capable of batting in the top order.  By continuing to 'rotate' the batsmen in these slots, we are not only giving them good opportunities, but we are creating options for the team in the WC, to lineup a matchup in our favor for the crucial power play overs.   And making it that much harder for the opposition to sit and plan against us.  Because they may plan for Rishabh to open the batting and have to deal with Surya instead.  This flexibility is a good thing.  And reinforces unselfishness in the batsmen's attitudes.  Dravid should be credited with this.  

[Jay]

1 hour ago, sandeep said:

I like this idea of rotating the top order slots and even openers.  Matchups and planning for them is becoming so important in these short T20 games, and its one of Indian team's strengths that we have so many quality batsmen who are capable of batting in the top order.  By continuing to 'rotate' the batsmen in these slots, we are not only giving them good opportunities, but we are creating options for the team in the WC, lto lineup a matchup in our favor for the crucial power play overs.   And making it that much harder for the opposition to sit and plan against us.  Because they may plan for Rishabh to open the batting and have to deal with Surya instead.  This flexibility is a good thing.  And reinforces unselfishness in the batsmen's attitudes.  Dravid should be credited with this.  

I think for the first time we look like we are seriously planning to win an LOI event for t20. 

[sandeep]

7 minutes ago, Jay said:

I think for the first time we look like we are seriously planning to win an LOI event for t20. 

yep, previous team mgmt was content to rack up useless bilateral wins and fill their boots with ODI "centuries" while ignoring player development.......

[mani sha]

This started with india Eng t20 series before t20 World Cup . India has been trying to go hard and have high strike rate . Finally our t20 team is gonna have possibility of a win . Odi wins will follow too as pant is maturing and middle order looks good 

[zen]

It is good to perform a a group versus few individuals through stats padding 

 

In T20s, you need 3-4 out of 7-8 batsmen to click. If you can’t fire, get out of the way as someone else can have a better day

 

Of course, those used to batsmen stats padding in bilaterals (and feeling comfortable with wkts not falling even at the cost for a low RR in first 10-15 overs) may take some time to understand this (or be happy when Rohit-KL-Kohli bat in their usual way)

[prudent_kreeda]

22 hours ago, sandeep said:

I like this idea of rotating the top order slots and even openers.  Matchups and planning for them is becoming so important in these short T20 games, and its one of Indian team's strengths that we have so many quality batsmen who are capable of batting in the top order.  By continuing to 'rotate' the batsmen in these slots, we are not only giving them good opportunities, but we are creating options for the team in the WC, to lineup a matchup in our favor for the crucial power play overs.   And making it that much harder for the opposition to sit and plan against us.  Because they may plan for Rishabh to open the batting and have to deal with Surya instead.  This flexibility is a good thing.  And reinforces unselfishness in the batsmen's attitudes.  Dravid should be credited with this.  

 

Very True.  We are not really appreciating the fact  that even after 4-5 core players missing we do not feel a huge difference in team performance . One should notice in 90s &2000s  if couple of core players were out of the side , team strength going down and replacements were so downgrade.  Surya experiment is not bad one too. Guy hits at unexpected areas and good at using pace of the ball. Whips deliveries from the stumps  which for others  would be good ball . Drawback - Looks troubled when pacy deliveries rising around off stump. but worth giving a try. If he stays for 5-6 overs , i think India would have used the PP well .Risky shots but impactful..

 

 

[HamHindustani]

23 hours ago, Jay said:

I think for the first time we look like we are seriously planning to win an LOI event for t20. 

The format requires additional runs while batting first plus the change in batting approach. Rohit does mention winning trophies is important but this change is to balance the pressure across the batting line up and play skilled people who can take on the bowlers and not defend them out.

Edited July 30, 2022 by HamHindustani

[Vk1]

On 7/29/2022 at 1:50 PM, Jay said:

I think for the first time we look like we are seriously planning to win an LOI event for t20. 

agree.. we are looking serious contenders in a long time.. 

[HamHindustani]

3 hours ago, Vk1 said:

agree.. we are looking serious contenders in a long time.. 

Don't think so. The batting has improved but the bowling has to sort itself out. It can though as we have good bowlers. But we don't know whom to play.

[Lord]

On 7/30/2022 at 12:34 AM, sandeep said:

I like this idea of rotating the top order slots and even openers.  Matchups and planning for them is becoming so important in these short T20 games, and its one of Indian team's strengths that we have so many quality batsmen who are capable of batting in the top order.  By continuing to 'rotate' the batsmen in these slots, we are not only giving them good opportunities, but we are creating options for the team in the WC, to lineup a matchup in our favor for the crucial power play overs.   And making it that much harder for the opposition to sit and plan against us.  Because they may plan for Rishabh to open the batting and have to deal with Surya instead.  This flexibility is a good thing.  And reinforces unselfishness in the batsmen's attitudes.  Dravid should be credited with this.  

 

So far good but will believe this when Rohit and Kohli bat outside top 3.

[Chakdephatte]

On 7/30/2022 at 12:26 AM, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

 

Unfortunately, one of Rohit and Kohli getting rest consistently played its part. If by chance, they get to bat together in same innings, the scoring rate will dip. Opposition can get away with four overs of SLA, who are mostly 5th/6th bowlers.

Edited August 13, 2022 by Chakdephatte

[Chakdephatte]

Should update the OP now.

138 all out

191/5

188/7

Since then.

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, Chakdephatte said:

191/5

188/7

Taking context of those WI Pitches , those are damn good scores 

[Majestic]

On 7/31/2022 at 4:10 PM, Lord said:

 

So far good but will believe this when Rohit and Kohli bat outside top 3.

Not likely to happen though and don't think they will do well either outside the top 3.

Edited August 13, 2022 by Majestic

[Chakdephatte]

On 7/31/2022 at 4:10 PM, Lord said:

So far good but will believe this when Rohit and Kohli bat outside top 3.

 

The only think Dravid needs to make sure is not to make them bat together, especially outside powerplay. Kohli will do better in floater role.

[Lord]

2 hours ago, Chakdephatte said:

 

The only think Dravid needs to make sure is not to make them bat together, especially outside powerplay. Kohli will do better in floater role.

 

yeah if Pant or SKY open we can ensure only one of these 3 is batting at a time

 

Rohit -Pant opening

SKY or Rahul at  3 depending on who gets out

Then Kohli only in if we are in trouble and need rebuilding

[singhvivek141]

Kohli & Rohit aren't gonna bat below no 3, there is a chance both Rohit and Kohli play as openers as well.
Kohli specially doesn't have the game to smash from ball one, he will rely of singles and doubles initially before launching himself at the end.
 

[Chakdephatte]

4 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Kohli & Rohit aren't gonna bat below no 3, there is a chance both Rohit and Kohli play as openers as well.
Kohli specially doesn't have the game to smash from ball one, he will rely of singles and doubles initially before launching himself at the end.

 

He is quite the opposite these days. Uses powerplay but shuts the shop after it. The less he faces spinners, the better he becomes.

[Need4Speed]

Seeing NZ hitting well against WI in last overs..and bowling well..looks little better prepared than India..

however..we didnt hv Bumrah as well..Akeal Hussein not playing has helped NZ..he bowled well against us..

left arm spinners hv been doing well recently in WI..see Mitch Santner now