RIP England white ball revolution (2015-2022)?

[sage]

Is this just a minor bump or the end of an era?

[nitinbwj]

Captaincy messed up Buttler completely. Should relinquish it ASAP. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

having the same feeling ever since butler became captain this side looks deranged, now that they have lost 2 left hander- stokes-morgan from middle i wud wanna see how they build their ODI batting . Mix of left and right is a huge part of their limited over strategy

 

Morgan as captain was too good  

[Frustrated]

Not sure what exactly it is.   But their star opener Jason Roy's batting style these days looks very similar to that of Loli.    That pretty much sums it up.  

[Ankit_sharma03]

Lets see how long before it starts affecting butler the player

[ipl is fun]

they should get Morgs as the mentor (like Dhoni)

[Lord]

too early to say.Was always gonna be tough to replace Morgan.

[Frustrated]

2 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

Need to play more matches , between the 2015 and 2019 wcs they played 90 matches, from the 2019 wc till now they have played 30 matches.

That's the case with most other teams as well.   Due to covid , there were hardly any intl matches in 2020 and most part of 2021.  

[Lord]

They are missing Morgan,Stokes,Archer,Wood,Woakes.

 

They'll be good once Archer and Wood return

[Ankit_sharma03]

Morgan wapis aao 

 

 

[Jay]

3 hours ago, Lord said:

They are missing Morgan,Stokes,Archer,Wood,Woakes.

 

They'll be good once Archer and Wood return

Archer is not returning for a long long time. Finished for 1 more year atleast. 

[Stan AF]

Joe Root should be in the T20I side

[nevada]

11 hours ago, Lord said:

They are missing Morgan,Stokes,Archer,Wood,Woakes.

 

They'll be good once Archer and Wood return

Is Stokes retired from T20Is as well? Why didnt he play in this series? England is okay batting wise but their bowling is weak, without Woakes and Wood. Archer seems like a memory now not sure how effective he will be in his comeback, whenever that is. England should look for 1-2 enforcer type bowlers like Wood to fix their team balance. 

[Sean Bradley]

Their key players, Roy, Butler are out of form, Stokes retired, bowlers like Woods, Archer, Saqib Mehmoood injured, I hardly see a problem, this seems more like a temporary glitch to me. 

[Frustrated]

1 hour ago, Sean Bradley said:

Stokes retired

He has not retired from T20 yet. 

[Nikhil_cric]

During that 2015-2019 period,  the white kookaburra ball was at it's worst. It barely moved off the straight and faster, flatter English wickets, this encourage their style of attacking play. 

 

Kookaburra upgraded sometime after the World Cup and as you can see the results of such attacking play haven't paid off as much as they used to.  Also the pitches haven't been absolute belters either .

 

England need to recalibrate their approach .

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

During that 2015-2019 period,  the white kookaburra ball was at it's worst. It barely moved off the straight and faster, flatter English wickets, this encourage their style of attacking play. 

 

Kookaburra upgraded sometime after the World Cup and as you can see the results of such attacking play haven't paid off as much as they used to.  Also the pitches haven't been absolute belters either .

 

England need to recalibrate their approach .

yup its been moving a lot more, i think bhuvi also mentioned somewhere that these new kookabura are moving more 

[vvvslaxman]

When they collectively click they look monstrous. When they collectively fail they look pathetic. But in T20 this approach is still the  best approach  on flat roads. If they can fine tune their game on helpful surfaces they will be even more dangerous.

[Lord]

20 hours ago, Jay said:

Archer is not returning for a long long time. Finished for 1 more year atleast. 

 

they need to blood a replacement. Wood and one other 140+ pacer. Maybe Jamie Overton