vayuu1 Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 On 10/6/2022 at 11:10 PM, vayuu1 said: Rohit Jaiswal Kohli Surya Pant Pandya Kartik Thakur Hooda Umran Bishnoi Axar Arshdeep Siraj Kl Bench : Tewatiya,sen, sarfaraz,shaw , Tyagi and kishan Fixed as chahar is injured and is not fit for wt20
Vilander Posted October 8, 2022 Posted October 8, 2022 On 10/6/2022 at 11:43 AM, Ankit_sharma03 said: Since i see so many unhappy and cribbing about our squad Rules - Only if you are unhappy with 4 or more players U need to give a sound logic for the player ur replacing and the logic behind his replacement selection U cant change it after selecting ur squad You cant select unfit players - prasidh , mohsin (if you can prove mohsin is fit , please select him )and bumrah . This will be locked before India's 1st warmup game , no more teams accepted after that. Fir to hindsight men koi bhi selection hogi selection is a process over time. If you don’t give opportunities for new players in bilaterala over a period you can only select current crop for a world cup. People pointed out selection flaws over the season and there were plenty in fast bowling lineup. Now what is the point of selecting a Siraj or Tyagi or Umran ? obsurd post if you are trying to simply discredit folks calling out pathetic fast bowling selections. raki05, Mosher, express bowling and 1 other 4
Vilander Posted October 8, 2022 Posted October 8, 2022 On 10/6/2022 at 11:44 AM, sandeep said: Majority of posters are cribbing Lokmanya Tilaks - moaning is my birthright and I shall have it! On 10/6/2022 at 11:55 AM, sandeep said: You're going to get more than a handful rants about phaast bowling saviors waiting in the wings - Mohsin!! Umraan!! As if these guys are any sort of reliable international class bowlers. Its a revolving door - these moaners always tout the guy who's not playing as the no-brainer better option. Chahal in the XI? Bishnoi is better. Bishnoi bowling noballs and getting spanked? why isn't Kuldeep playing? Kuldeep in the XI bleeding boundaries? This chubber bowls too slow why aren't they picking Chahar. And so on. you have a very crappy holier than thou attitude in your posts, but I have seen you cribbing about bowling selections too. So yeah chill it. new fast bowlers where not tried by the current selectors and they went for safe options instead of experimenting and letting people fail and find a way. that is being rightly called out. Hell Raiser, raki05, Stan AF and 1 other 1 1 2
raki05 Posted October 8, 2022 Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Vilander said: you have a very crappy holier than thou attitude in your posts, but I have seen you cribbing about bowling selections too. So yeah chill it. new fast bowlers where not tried by the current selectors and they went for safe options instead of experimenting and letting people fail and find a way. that is being rightly called out. He always cry about top3 though ......long back he used to cry about Rahul non selection as well during Kohli's time. Edited October 8, 2022 by raki05
Adamant Posted October 8, 2022 Posted October 8, 2022 We can't have a better bowling lineup bcoz we are talent bankrupted in fast bowling department. Our batting is already excellent.
Adamant Posted October 8, 2022 Posted October 8, 2022 Khaleel is the new flavor of the town. Believe me folks, he is a squealer and I know a squealer when I see one. Don’t waste your time on him.
raki05 Posted October 8, 2022 Posted October 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, Adamant said: We can't have a better bowling lineup bcoz we are talent bankrupted in fast bowling department. Our batting is already excellent. Till Asia Cup you were abusing batting...you were saying our batting has no talent. You sound like a sadist who feels happy of India misery just because your God is no longer captain. You also celebrated his useless 50 and hundred in Asia Cup over team performance. Once these young bowlers start performing after getting their due chance we will talk about it, hope you don't change your opinion like you changed for batting. express bowling, SRT100 and rollingstoned 3
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 8, 2022 Author Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Vilander said: selection is a process over time. If you don’t give opportunities for new players in bilaterala over a period you can only select current crop for a world cup. People pointed out selection flaws over the season and there were plenty in fast bowling lineup. Now what is the point of selecting a Siraj or Tyagi or Umran ? obsurd post if you are trying to simply discredit folks calling out pathetic fast bowling selections. i have already said i understand its a long process and selectors had their own u can give ur choices with reasoning Selectors did try new bowlers - harshal , arshdeep, avesh and they had their logic reasoning. They all were specified with roles and all came with multiple IPL season performance One of the reason of bit of mess today is due injuries and form which is not in anyone hand As far injuries goes many here wanted - prasidh, mohsin, khaleel, bumrah whom as of today are injured so even their plans wud have been in tatters coz injuries are not in everyone control Every crying for umran - how many were ready here to back umran when he had 2-3 bad games and i can literally bump old post showing what everyone saying is not ready yet everyone will say in hindsight he wud have been better. How many wanted Siraj here post his disaster IPL - go check the IPL threads As far as form goes its just not our team many top teams top players - maxwell , livingstone Stop talking about team building if most are just reacting on hindsight - everyone declared Virat kohli done n dusted before asia cup and now u can check more then 90% have him in their teams. Everyone wanted to get rid of top 3 but on that front most have gone quite now since all of them have runs- so ye vision nahin reaction hai Changing ur team after every series on overreacting is not building which is what everyone do here. A lot of what many do here is hindsight cribbing ................be it the case of newbie umran or someone like Kohli. Ye konsi team building aur vision ki 1-2 series baad tumhe apne player pe confidence nahin ya apni risky choice pe. Reason for this go n say whom u want now coz everyone will easily cribb afterwards as its easy to do . Let see how many even stick to sides they say they want today . Forget discrediting post im pointing out everyone nature of just cribbing in hindsight . Jo abhi harshal ro rahe adho ki team men 2 mahina pehle harshal bhi tha Edited October 8, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03
Suhaan Posted October 8, 2022 Posted October 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Adamant said: We can't have a better bowling lineup bcoz we are talent bankrupted in fast bowling department. Our batting is already excellent. Still the lesser pacers took more wickets and were more economical than so called phassht bowling powerhouse in Asia cup raki05, express bowling, rollingstoned and 1 other 1 1 2
Vilander Posted October 8, 2022 Posted October 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: harshal , arshdeep, avesh All good choices but they should have tried more people what made the selector stick with these few only. When Harshal got found and started going for plenty they could have given a few games for one of the up and coming pacers from IPl tried them. 7 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: prasidh, mohsin, khaleel, bumrah Was Mohsin tried ? He was never in picture not an injury sideline he was never found good by selectors 7 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: crying for umran - how many were ready here to back 7 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: How many wanted Siraj Rhetorical , I can say many where you can say no not many 7 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Stop talking about team building if most are just reacting on hindsight Why ? How do you know most are reacting on hindsight lol. But again rhetorical I can say many were reacting before and you can say no. But why stop talking about team building ? Its selectors duty and they have shown themselves incompetent in it specifically in fast bowling. 7 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: everyone declared Virat kohli done n dusted before asia cup Rhetotic, You are doing this everywhere in your post, generalise and respond to your convinient antithesis view point, while there is neither proof or significance of 'everyone' calling kohli 'done', there is no proof that all these allegations you call to be widely held viewpoints were indeed widely held. You are basically doing something like accuse the whole posting community of some deed and are countering it while all you do are just validating your own view point. I am just showing a mirror. In a fan site people will call out selection issues, its normal nothing to be governed or controlled but holier mods lulz. zen, raki05, Mosher and 3 others 4 2
Vilander Posted October 8, 2022 Posted October 8, 2022 On 10/7/2022 at 9:03 AM, raki05 said: Lol debutant Dahani slap that slimy piece of trundler for 19 runs. Slankan no name batter smacked this kanjoos bowler . So when trundler get bashed they are out of form and when a potential youngster get bashed then he doesn't have skill. I think lot of people fail to understand that cricket is about scoring runs and taking wkts this defensive mindset of economical bowling only take you to certain stage. Because of this useless stats based selection we couldn't win an icc trophy in 9 years. Nailed the thread. raki05 and express bowling 2
raki05 Posted October 8, 2022 Posted October 8, 2022 Lol literally many people who were active on fast bowling thread were backing Umran, Mohsin, Tyagi, Kuldeep and few other ipl performer over Avesh and even when Dravid dropped Umran people were unhappy. May be few trundler fans were opposing Umran they are the one who are opposing him now even. So why this blatant lie is spread over here that people wanted to drop Umran. People who wanted Umran since start especially active members on fast bowling thread never wanted Umran to get dropped. Also we always opposed Avesh and Harshal selection over other ipl performer. Suhaan, express bowling, SRT100 and 2 others 1 4
Stan AF Posted October 8, 2022 Posted October 8, 2022 With regret, I must admit there's some truth to this statement. 12 hours ago, Adamant said: We can't have a better bowling lineup bcoz we are talent bankrupted in fast bowling department. Our batting is already excellent. Adamant 1
vishalvirsingh Posted October 8, 2022 Posted October 8, 2022 Spinners- 1. Axar (AR)and 2. Bishnoi Pacers- Swing King Bhuvi, Khaleel ahmed, Arshdeep, Umran Malik Shammi Siraj Hardik ( AR) Only one Keepers- Rishabh Pant - cant pick Karthik to play 6 balls. Batsman- Gill- he is probably the most talented Opener we have as of today after Rohit Sharma. Rohit Sharma Kohli Surya Kumar Yadav Hooda Shreyas Iyer 6 Batsman, 1 Pace AR( Hardik) , 1 Spin All rounder ( Aar) 4 Back Up- Kuldeep Sen , Shardul Thakur, Washington Sundar, Sanju Samson
rollingstoned Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 16 hours ago, Vilander said: Rhetotic, You are doing this everywhere in your post, generalise and respond to your convinient antithesis view point, while there is neither proof or significance of 'everyone' calling kohli 'done', there is no proof that all these allegations you call to be widely held viewpoints were indeed widely held. You are basically doing something like accuse the whole posting community of some deed and are countering it while all you do are just validating your own view point. I am just showing a mirror. In a fan site people will call out selection issues, its normal nothing to be governed or controlled but holier mods lulz. tbf to him many people didn't want Kohli in the team during his extended rut but it is probably the right decision to play him in this WC. As for the thread i think the objection of most is to the overall strategy which drives team selections. You cannot obviously ignore stats and regular, consistent performers in domestic cricket need to be rewarded eventually but sometime you need to make exception if you have spotted a diamond in the rough who is earmarked for greatness even if it is risky in the immediate future. Not saying there are those who don't vent with hindsight but that is par for the course with any fandom which is very reactionary. For a few years the selection emphasised wicket taking fast bowlers who embodied Kohli's thinking and approach until only a year or so ago.
Adorable Fan Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 14 hours ago, raki05 said: Lol literally many people who were active on fast bowling thread were backing Umran, Mohsin, Tyagi, Kuldeep and few other ipl performer over Avesh and even when Dravid dropped Umran people were unhappy. May be few trundler fans were opposing Umran they are the one who are opposing him now even. So why this blatant lie is spread over here that people wanted to drop Umran. People who wanted Umran since start especially active members on fast bowling thread never wanted Umran to get dropped. Also we always opposed Avesh and Harshal selection over other ipl performer. Hahaha.. you created a word "jholadari" or some experts... We could see them here in this thread.. No wonder stat padding is given importance by such fans . express bowling and raki05 2
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