Why on earth Ashwin playing in IX?

[adi B]

Chahal is worse than ashwin and can lose you games single handedly ,when someone starts hitting him (which generally happens ) ,he just surrenders and becomes worse .

Ashwin is bad as well but not as bad as chahal .

Ideally we should have picked up a new leggie who bowls flatter trajectory like afridi ,I.e Bishnoi. 

[Chakdephatte]

1 hour ago, cricketfan28 said:

took game changing wicket today, cheers!!

 

Game changing? When was Zimbabwe even in the game?

[Adamant]

4 hours ago, Ravi_Shastri said:

Before wc: Chahal is the worst spinner in the world

Few games in to the wc : Chahal should be in the team Ashwin is the worst spinner in the world.

Once Chahal gets picked : Dravid is stupid why do you play chahal , Ashwin could atleast bat

Reality - talent bankruptcy.

[Adamant]

Just see how Shadab wins gamw for Pakistan, same goes for Hasaranga, then look at our spinners? 

 

Why do we even need a spinner if all they do is getting tonked by batsman and release the pressure. 

[Adamant]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he already has changed two games with bat - pak and bang, if not for him we wud have coming back home

Consider picking Hooda or Shardul ahead of him (by niggling someone) all he does is release pressure with the ball. 

His fluke six againt Bangladesh doesn't count. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

10 hours ago, Adamant said:

Consider picking Hooda or Shardul ahead of him (by niggling someone) all he does is release pressure with the ball. 

His fluke six againt Bangladesh doesn't count. 

hooda cudnt even touch high pace that game, anyone can fail but he cudnt even touch the ball 

shardul is in extra

 

if anyone it wud be chahal but take that call keeping matchups in mind , whoever has better matchup go for him

[Adamant]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

hooda cudnt even touch high pace that game, anyone can fail but he cudnt even touch the ball 

shardul is in extra

 

if anyone it wud be chahal but take that call keeping matchups in mind , whoever has better matchup go for him

Bhai mere what has Ashwin done against left handers this wc? Except getting tonked by Miller. 

 

Kaahe ka matchup, tomato Ketchup ban gaya Iska. 

 

According to me no spinner should play, all they have done is release pressure. 

 

We don't have a good spinner. 

 

Get Shardul in, play him instead od Ashwin and Hooda to replace Axar. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

10 hours ago, Adamant said:

Bhai mere what has Ashwin done against left handers this wc? Except getting tonked by Miller. 

 

Kaahe ka matchup, tomato Ketchup ban gaya Iska. 

 

According to me no spinner should play, all they have done is release pressure. 

 

We don't have a good spinner. 

 

Get Shardul in, play him instead od Ashwin and Hooda to replace Axar. 

but miller is now exceptional against off spin, i know he hasnt done much with bowl but still he has contributed 

who ever u pick be it 4 fast bowler - logic shud be matchup and conditions. 

 

Every day wont be same 

 

[Lord]

4 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Bhai mere what has Ashwin done against left handers this wc? Except getting tonked by Miller. 

 

Kaahe ka matchup, tomato Ketchup ban gaya Iska. 

 

According to me no spinner should play, all they have done is release pressure. 

 

We don't have a good spinner. 

 

Get Shardul in, play him instead od Ashwin and Hooda to replace Axar. 

 

Shardul is in reserves. Only Harshal can replace Axar and he should.

 

Ashwin is still better than Hooda.

[R!TTER]

You can niggle out DK, just say he was expecting 

[afan]

3-22 does not count for much if you are talking of Zim lower order wickets.

3-22 against a side like England? now we are talking !

All the best to Ashwin, I'm not convinced though that he is our best T20 I bowler

[Ankit_sharma03]

One thing im expecting from ash is coming out all motivated since this might be the last white ball Wc he ll play 

[Majestic]

2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he already has changed two games with bat - pak and bang, if not for him we wud have coming back home

WOW lol 

 

4*(1) vs Pakistan 

8-10 runs vs BD

 

Pick him for next game if that is what you want but he hasn't been effective though, just a utility cricketer.

 

Should drop Axar as he has been useless and play Harshal instead. Rohit don't know how to use Hooda when Ashwin plays as both are off spinner.

[Majestic]

36 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Bhai mere what has Ashwin done against left handers this wc? Except getting tonked by Miller. 

 

Kaahe ka matchup, tomato Ketchup ban gaya Iska. 

 

According to me no spinner should play, all they have done is release pressure. 

 

We don't have a good spinner. 

 

Get Shardul in, play him instead od Ashwin and Hooda to replace Axar. 

Shardul is not there. Play Harshal instead of Axar.

 

Or

 

Hooda and Chahal instead of Ashwin/Axar. But Ashwin won't be dropped now with 3 wickets in this match.

[figo6762]

6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

One thing im expecting from ash is coming out all motivated since this might be the last white ball Wc he ll play 

he will expected to get malan and stokes out within the first 2 overs of his spell ..  if we get past the openers 

[Ankit_sharma03]

10 hours ago, Majestic said:

WOW lol 

 

4*(1) vs Pakistan 

8-10 runs vs BD

 

did u watch those games or scorecard ?

 

 

10 hours ago, Majestic said:

Pick him for next game if that is what you want but he hasn't been effective though, just a utility cricketer.

 

Should drop Axar as he has been useless and play Harshal instead. Rohit don't know how to use Hooda when Ashwin plays as both are off spinner.

 

Axar with harshal is no logic 

Hooda is a part timer who cudnt touch a high pace ball so his 1st skill is doubtfull in these conditions. Cant sacrifice a bowler for someone who cant put bat to ball against that pace for some part timer bowling . Also not the 1st 1st time he has been found wanting against high pace

 

England have quite a few right handers and among which middle order batsman like livingstone have had an issue against SLA forver now 

 

 

[Majestic]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

did u watch those games or scorecard ?

 

 

 

Axar with harshal is no logic 

Hooda is a part timer who cudnt touch a high pace ball so his 1st skill is doubtfull in these conditions. Cant sacrifice a bowler for someone who cant put bat to ball against that pace for some part timer bowling . Also not the 1st 1st time he has been found wanting against high pace

 

England have quite a few right handers and among which middle order batsman like livingstone have had an issue against SLA forver now 

 

 

Why it doesn't make sense? Both the spinners have been average, Ashwin average with bowl and average with bat while Axar has been poor with bowl. So, better play Harshal.

 

Ashwin 's first skill is also highly doubtful. With bat, he can score 7-8 runs but don't expect much. He has performed in this game vs Zimbabwe so will be persisted vs England.

 

But we should drop Axar because out of our six bowlers, the two worst performers are Ashwin and Axar only. Pandya has done better than both and same for the three pacers although Bhuvi has just been the economical Kumar we know of him.

[Majestic]

1 hour ago, Ravi_Shastri said:

I have more confidence in Ashwin the batsman tha Pandya the batsman 

I have more confidence in Pandya the bowler than Ashwin the bowler. Pandya has done better than Ash with bowl and you probably know I don't belong to that Pandya fan club.

[Ankit_sharma03]

8 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Why it doesn't make sense? Both the spinners have been average, Ashwin average with bowl and average with bat while Axar has been poor with bowl. So, better play Harshal.

 

No ons wanted harshal in wc squad abhi achanak se acha ho gaya ??  

What happened in yesterday game has no relevance to tomm game 

 

Harshal can play in place of ashwin but axar since axar batting potential is better

 

8 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Ashwin 's first skill is also highly doubtful. With bat, he can score 7-8 runs but don't expect much. He has performed in this game vs Zimbabwe so will be persisted vs England.

 Even harshal , chahal 1st skill is under great doubt ...isnt it ?? 

 

8 minutes ago, Majestic said:

But we should drop Axar because out of our six bowlers, the two worst performers are Ashwin and Axar only. Pandya has done better than both and same for the three pacers although Bhuvi has just been the economical Kumar we know of him.

And what guarntee is that the next guy who cones will do better. He lost his place due to bad form.

 

Everyone thought hooda will serve better as compare to axar , he cudnt even touch the ball. (Although against a better bowling on perth pitch that logic made sense so key word is logic not reaction selection

 

Logic shudnt be past games 

It shud next opp and venue and if harshal, chahal has better chance the play them.  

 

Good Teams go through data to make picks, bad teams reactive calls which was kohli the captain's biggest downfall. 

In LOI every day is a new day 

 

 

 

Edited November 6, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03

[QuarantineTormentino]

Fact 1: neither Ashwin nor Chahal are good  t20i spinners and both shouldn’t have been in the squad in the first place

 

Fact 2: Ashwin is 1000000X better than Chahal with the bat and ball (fielding about the same)

 

the sooner Indian cricket fans accept these statements the better