Shastri called out Dhoni for not playing to win

[sage]

 

Re: ODI vs England at Lords in 2018 

From Sridhar's book

[sage]

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-tour-of-england-2018-1119528/england-vs-india-2nd-odi-1119547/match-statistics

[vvvslaxman]

Process >> Everything  :)  

[Gollum]

Then Dhoni repeated the same thing on a much bigger stage, 2019 WC against the same opponent, him and Jadhav both culprits on that occasion. 

[Majestic]

Dhoni basically used the power he had to his advantage in those final years of his career.

[putrevus]

Dhoni was carried to three cups  as a captain without him doing anything other one knock in finals where Yuvi and Raina were still there.This SOB was lucky as a captain than being good.

[Number]

52 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Then Dhoni repeated the same thing on a much bigger stage, 2019 WC against the same opponent, him and Jadhav both culprits on that occasion. 

 

That was a strange chase. We got within striking distance then totally backed off.

I may be wrong but it could a tactical decision to get rid of the neighbours as they started looking dangerous in the later part of tournament with Shaheen and Amir bowling well. CT'17 final was fresh in the minds of most of the players.

[Gollum]

35 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Dhoni was carried to three cups  as a captain without him doing anything other one knock in finals where Yuvi and Raina were still there.This SOB was lucky as a captain than being good.

And a massive failure in all WT20s post the inaugural one. 

 

Not just batting, his poor captaincy had a big role in all our defeats in 2009, 2010, 2016 editions, and the 2014 final as well. 

 

Underwhelming in tests as well (not to forget his loss of interest in that format post 2011 WC), Saha was better from circa 2011-12 but was kept away. 

Edited January 14, 2023 by Gollum

[Gollum]

15 minutes ago, Number said:

 

That was a strange chase. We got within striking distance then totally backed off.

I may be wrong but it could a tactical decision to get rid of the neighbours as they started looking dangerous in the later part of tournament with Shaheen and Amir bowling well. CT'17 final was fresh in the minds of most of the players.

Don't really believe in those theories.

 

IMO they never had the belief they could win from that position, both had been inept for a while, and also total lack of accountability. They knew no questions would be raised. A similar stunt 20 years ago would have invited allegations of fixing, that's how strange that game was. 

[nitinbwj]

Haha.. Imagine Dravid giving that speech.. He just won't say anything. The most pathetic coach I have ever seen. 

[nitinbwj]

Kitne ki hai yeh Kitaab? 

[putrevus]

44 minutes ago, Gollum said:

And a massive failure in all WT20s post the inaugural one. 

 

Not just batting, his poor captaincy had a big role in all our defeats in 2009, 2010, 2016 editions, and the 2014 final as well. 

 

Underwhelming in tests as well (not to forget his loss of interest in that format post 2011 WC), Saha was better from circa 2011-12 but was kept away. 

India should have won atleast one more world t20  if not Dhoni's idiotic captaincy .His batting was never good enough in t20s.

 

Dhoni is legtimate ATG in odis and best test WK batsman from India but he hung on too long and got too much credit as a winner.

[R!TTER]

There's a reason I call that guy Dhongi & SRT haters go suck some free donkey 

 

Will ya 

[wanted_desi]

We called him out here as well even when we weren’t getting paid to do so. 

[Kerberos]

That night shastri had old monk as a mark of respect for old Dhoni. Shastriji was a cool customer (no pun intended).

 

 

 

[rollingstoned]

3 hours ago, Gollum said:

Then Dhoni repeated the same thing on a much bigger stage, 2019 WC against the same opponent, him and Jadhav both culprits on that occasion. 

He did this in the 2015 wc semi against Australia too. A stiff target for sure but didn't even bother trying to chase it. 

[cricketfan28]

Most successful Ipl captain after Sharma so these dictator tendencies are natural.

[Kerberos]

2 minutes ago, cricketfan28 said:

Most successful Ipl captain after Sharma so these dictator tendencies are natural.

Why sharma not have it?

[Kerberos]

1 hour ago, nitinbwj said:

Kitne ki hai yeh Kitaab? 

Tera ghar chala jayenga.....

[cricketfan28]

5 minutes ago, Kerberos said:

Why sharma not have it?

he should have retired from t20s by now, blamed bowlers for semi final loss. I don't blame him when you are hero worshipped for a long time these things show up.