zen Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Iran is one of the countries that keep me on the edge. On one hand, you hear about the Islamic Revolution, chemical weapons, support for probably the most feared terrorist organization Hezbollah, etc. On the other hand, it is an ancient land (Persia) that displays philosophical and revolutionary (against the system in Iran) tendencies esp. through arts and films (many key Iranian directors get jailed). Talking about films, in many of those, Tehran comes across as a European city (esp. East European) with adequate and clean infrastructure, and the interiors of the country are breathtakingly pristine. In short, Iran appears mysterious. Below are a few videos of Iran: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 Tehran's metro ... almost spotless: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakat Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Made a lot of friends in my twenties and have traveled extensively with them as well as solo. Very gracious and affectionate people. and this is not just to visitors but even their long-term interpersonal relationships - with neighbours, passers-by, shopkeepers - are rooted in a high EQ mindset. The country is halfway to becoming like Cuba because of the sanctions which is a pity because it's brought on by the Islamic regime when actually in private they embrace an enlightened approach to life. In almost every part of the country, house parties host urbane, well-spoken people wearing clothes you would think wouldn't exist within the borders. Love the lilt in the voice that almost everyone seems to share. They even argue in a bemusing sing-song rhythm. And then there's the food... zen, Under_Score and randomGuy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Farsi has huge impact on Indian languages, most of what we call Hindi/Punjabi today is not Shudh Hindi but mixture of many languages. We share lots of shared words like kaagaz, aasman, dust/dost, dushman, mehman, list is too long. Same with food, our cuisine is heavily influenced by Iranians. Their food is flavourful but not spicy though. In Canada, Iranians tend to be spiritual but not religious and they all drink and date people outside race. They are not fond of their homeland which makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Top of my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Probably the ancestral home of North or Northwest Indians. We will never know the exact origin... But Genome studies indicate that. Iranians or Ancient Iranians were our proven close relatives.. Too bad Islamic rule destroyed those cultural links. Still so much similarity right from language & food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Probably the ancestral home of North or Northwest Indians. We will never know the exact origin... But Genome studies indicate that. Iranians or Ancient Iranians were our proven close relatives.. Too bad Islamic rule destroyed those cultural links. Still so much similarity right from language & food. shared ancestry, not 'ancestors'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, sandeep said: shared ancestry, not 'ancestors'... Max planck institute studies indicate that IVC folks were directly related to Iranians. Even our ancient Text rigveda mentions about Battle of the Ten kings. Losers went westward towards Persia. Foundation of Bharata happened after that battle. Edited January 29, 2023 by Lone Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibarn Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) I don't think the general populace of Iran was necessarily that strongly Islamic anyway, at least for the last 5 decades. Reza Shah Pahlavi was a relatively secular dictator. He gave some rights to non-Muslims. That was part of the reason that the Islamic clergy of the country wanted to overthrow him. Ironically, the Leftists/Socialists joined hands with the Islamists to overthrow him, and they were the first ones to get GPL by the new Islamic theocracy. The same thing would happen in India, both groups are hand-in-glove, but they would turn on each other the first chance they got. There is a good auto-biographical graphic novel called Persepolis created by Marjane Satrapi that takes place during this time. Her parents were leftist revolutionaries who protested for the removal of the Shah. Some Data show this as the current religious demographics of Iran: If this is true at all, Iran is an example of an Islamic country ruled by a Shia/Muslim plurality but not majority. Edited January 31, 2023 by Tibarn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 On 1/29/2023 at 2:08 AM, Vancouver said: Farsi has huge impact on Indian languages, most of what we call Hindi/Punjabi today is not Shudh Hindi but mixture of many languages. We share lots of shared words like kaagaz, aasman, dust/dost, dushman, mehman, list is too long. Same with food, our cuisine is heavily influenced by Iranians. Their food is flavourful but not spicy though. In Canada, Iranians tend to be spiritual but not religious and they all drink and date people outside race. They are not fond of their homeland which makes sense. Specially Biryani. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Iranian men likes to upgrade their wife every 10-15 years ( they cant have more than one wife at any point of time culturally ) @Mariyam and most Iranian women are really cool with it though ( they will get handosme mahr when they divorce ) Mariyam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 On 2/3/2023 at 6:06 PM, Khota said: Specially Biryani. telugu/andhra food added spice to iranian pulav and gifted biriyani to the whole world .. not the other way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 3 hours ago, velu said: telugu/andhra food added spice to iranian pulav and gifted biriyani to the whole world .. not the other way The concept of biryani, where you give "dum" to rice is Iranian. You added different flavor to it. It is like Samosa, desis made it popular but it came somewhere from former Russian state. This is what chat gpt says. Chat gpt is good but still not there. My answer is better than chat's. Biryani is a dish that has its origins in the Indian subcontinent, specifically in the region that encompasses present-day India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. It is believed to have been brought to the subcontinent by Middle Eastern traders, who introduced the dish and its ingredients, such as rice, spices, and meat. Over time, the dish was adapted and refined to suit local tastes, and various regional variations of biryani emerged, each with its unique blend of spices and cooking techniques. Today, biryani is a beloved dish across the Indian subcontinent, as well as in other parts of the world where South Asian communities have settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 On 2/3/2023 at 7:36 AM, Khota said: Specially Biryani. Rice, saffron, spices were all grown in India. Then why would Iranians invent a dish with all ingredients grown in India? Read about King Nala (of Nala Damayanti) who was a great cook, we call great food as Nalapaaka. His Pakadarpanam has detailed recipes of rice bein cooked with spices and meat. Maybe Persians called it Biryani doesn’t mean the dis was invented by someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Rice, saffron, spices were all grown in India. Then why would Iranians invent a dish with all ingredients grown in India? Read about King Nala (of Nala Damayanti) who was a great cook, we call great food as Nalapaaka. His Pakadarpanam has detailed recipes of rice bein cooked with spices and meat. Maybe Persians called it Biryani doesn’t mean the dis was invented by someone else. It comes down to documentation. The original root of the dish is pilaf or Palao as we call it a Persian concept. The concept of "dum" or steam is Persian. Popularized by Mughals in India. And guess where Mughals came from? Uzbekistan, a region very much influenced by Iran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Khota said: It comes down to documentation. The original root of the dish is pilaf or Palao as we call it a Persian concept. The concept of "dum" or steam is Persian. Popularized by Mughals in India. And guess where Mughals came from? Uzbekistan, a region very much influenced by Iran. So Chinese food came from India then. There are Gobi Manchurian stalls in every street in India. A few years from now , we can claim that. The root sword for Pilaf is Pulaka (Sanskrit) Edited February 12, 2023 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Rice, saffron, spices were all grown in India. Then why would Iranians invent a dish with all ingredients grown in India? Read about King Nala (of Nala Damayanti) who was a great cook, we call great food as Nalapaaka. His Pakadarpanam has detailed recipes of rice bein cooked with spices and meat. Maybe Persians called it Biryani doesn’t mean the dis was invented by someone else. Basic ingredient is rice and grown in Iran. safron is flavoring, no one in India is adding saffron except at homes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Just now, coffee_rules said: So Chinese food came from India then. There are Gobi Manchurian stalls in every street in India. A few years from now , we can claim that. You see the word Manchurian in there. Not that difficult concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Khota said: You see the word Manchurian in there. Not that difficult concept. So they change Pulaka to Pilaf and claim GI tag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Khota said: Basic ingredient is rice and grown in Iran. safron is flavoring, no one in India is adding saffron except at homes. Rice and spices is what is it gives it’s flavor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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