javier26 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) Cricket Australia uploaded it recently on their Channel. Pakistan needed 43 in 37 Balls with 2 wickets in hand. At 13.14 minutes, a Young Afridi and Shoaib Malik ( still playing ) seen in the dressing room. Think that LBW on the 2nd last ball was close. Weak a** throw by the keeper on the final ball. But overall what a choker effort in the end by India to let two tailenders take the game away. Edited February 4, 2023 by javier26 rollingstoned 1
sandeep Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Robin Singh the fighter showcasing his temperament in yet another match. Srinath bowling his heart out and getting angry at Gangu's gaabdu in the slips. Young Dravid and Gangu. Tendulkar getting bowled on the inswinger - Waseem has often hinted that he felt this was the one chink in the great one's armor. Ajit Agarkar nipping wickets in ODIs from batsmen who don't respect him - Inzamam with his not unusual brain-farts. Yousuf Youhana strutting his 'cross' celebration - this was before he changed his faith and IIRC he said that it was because of his faith that he did not get the recognition in Pakistan that he deserved as a top class batsman. And he may have a point. Shoiab Chucktar before he got all roided up and huge. Young Saqi - a legit weapon in ODI cricket. Have to say, this is probably one of the better Pakistan shirts that I remember seeing - flag colors, very classy looking with the white on the side. These were the days when in spite of possessing the best batsman in the world, and plenty of talent around him, the Indian team just couldn't figure out how to put it together to finish those clutch wins. The lack of depth in bowling was an issue, but perhaps the temperament and ability to execute as a unit was the bigger issue. These were also the days when Greenbros used to have that swagger about them, and expected to win against India. In many ways post 1999 WC was the beginning of the end for that team's competitiveness at the highest levels of cricket. A real throwback - thank you @javier26 for posting this. Nostalgic. bowl_out, AuxiliA, Norman and 6 others 2 3 4
vvvslaxman Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Mehidy hasan and Fiz partnership takes the cake. Thatt is the ultimate choke job by Hahul lol Put down a catch even with gloves raki05 1
Number Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Great game, we should have won. Our full strength team was more than a match to Pakistan even in their best years.
Number Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Just now, vvvslaxman said: Mehidy hasan and Fiz partnership takes the cake. Thatt is the ultimate choke job by Hahul lol Put down a catch even with gloves At least Mehidy is a legit batter and Bangaldesh didn't have to worry about balls remaining. Here we managed to mess up against Saqlain and Waqar requiring > 6 rpo.
javier26 Posted February 4, 2023 Author Posted February 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Number said: At least Mehidy is a legit batter and Bangaldesh didn't have to worry about balls remaining. Here we managed to mess up against Saqlain and Waqar requiring > 6 rpo. Indeed, Mehidy had the luxury of taking his time. He still had to take calculated risks and retain the strike on the final ball. But the intensity during the India BD match was nowhere closer to India Pakistan contests during the early 2000s or the 90s. Most Indian fans were taking BD series as bunch of Trial Matches. India Pakistan was an absolute pressure cooker situation. Chasing 7 RPO in the last 6 overs with only two wickets left takes some doing. India could have bowled tight, some dot balls and could have taken the match out of Pakistan's reach, even if they didn't take wickets. But the Pakistani tailender batsmen continued to get boundaries and reached there comfortably in the end. Number 1
javier26 Posted February 4, 2023 Author Posted February 4, 2023 If i remember correctly , this match was a part of India, Australia and Pakistan Tri series in Australia and the results for India throughout the series were disastrous. India won something like 1 out of 8 matches played . Lost 3 out of 4 matches against Pakistan and 4 out of 4 against Australia.
prudent_kreeda Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 2 hours ago, sandeep said: Robin Singh the fighter showcasing his temperament in yet another match. Srinath bowling his heart out and getting angry at Gangu's gaabdu in the slips. Young Dravid and Gangu. Tendulkar getting bowled on the inswinger - Waseem has often hinted that he felt this was the one chink in the great one's armor. Ajit Agarkar nipping wickets in ODIs from batsmen who don't respect him - Inzamam with his not unusual brain-farts. Yousuf Youhana strutting his 'cross' celebration - this was before he changed his faith and IIRC he said that it was because of his faith that he did not get the recognition in Pakistan that he deserved as a top class batsman. And he may have a point. Shoiab Chucktar before he got all roided up and huge. Young Saqi - a legit weapon in ODI cricket. Have to say, this is probably one of the better Pakistan shirts that I remember seeing - flag colors, very classy looking with the white on the side. These were the days when in spite of possessing the best batsman in the world, and plenty of talent around him, the Indian team just couldn't figure out how to put it together to finish those clutch wins. The lack of depth in bowling was an issue, but perhaps the temperament and ability to execute as a unit was the bigger issue. These were also the days when Greenbros used to have that swagger about them, and expected to win against India. In many ways post 1999 WC was the beginning of the end for that team's competitiveness at the highest levels of cricket. A real throwback - thank you @javier26 for posting this. Nostalgic. From 1986 onwards they had a huge psychological domination over us . Victories were very rare in the 90s .
vvvslaxman Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 India's first win against Pakistan in Pakistan in a ODI was similar to this. Rajesh chuahan deposited their most threatening bowler in the stands and silenecd the crowd. Robin singh put his hand up. Same way Kanitkar smashed Saqlain for 4 to clinch India's first ever 300 plus succesful chase. rollingstoned 1
Pakistan Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 10 hours ago, javier26 said: Cricket Australia uploaded it recently on their Channel. Pakistan needed 43 in 37 Balls with 2 wickets in hand. At 13.14 minutes, a Young Afridi and Shoaib Malik ( still playing ) seen in the dressing room. Think that LBW on the 2nd last ball was close. Weak a** throw by the keeper on the final ball. But overall what a choker effort in the end by India to let two tailenders take the game away. Miandad the greatest 6 was still hurting you guys at that time.
Pakistan Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 7 hours ago, prudent_kreeda said: From 1986 onwards they had a huge psychological domination over us . Victories were very rare in the 90s . They only came when main Pakistani players were busy playing county so second tier played in those matches.
Pakistan Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 7 hours ago, javier26 said: If i remember correctly , this match was a part of India, Australia and Pakistan Tri series in Australia and the results for India throughout the series were disastrous. India won something like 1 out of 8 matches played . Lost 3 out of 4 matches against Pakistan and 4 out of 4 against Australia. Aussie were destroying everyone. Pakistan was only winning against Bharat and losing to Australia. They did win ODI series against Australia in Australia few years later what was the second only under the roof ODI series. Shoaib Akhtar was beast in that series. Australia hosted South Africa for first ever indoor ODI series year before.
neel roy Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Pakistan said: They only came when main Pakistani players were busy playing county so second tier played in those matches. the hodoo was broken fyi in the independence cup final in dhaka.. when indiq chased down world record 315.. things changed since then.. after that india and pakistan played 27 bilaterals with india winning 14 and pak 13 ( check the records).. i n not even considering the numerous india wins in wc odis..and fyi pak in bilaterals at home and away never played a b team.. AuxiliA 1
Sooda Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 1:50 PM, sandeep said: IIRC he said that it was because of his faith that he did not get the recognition in Pakistan that he deserved as a top class batsman. And he may have a point. Would be interested to see if he actually did say that. He was stand in captain for one test as Yohana, recognition of his seniority In any case he hit his prime/ achieved "greatness" after conversion . He had that record breaking year etc
raki05 Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 6:25 PM, javier26 said: Cricket Australia uploaded it recently on their Channel. Pakistan needed 43 in 37 Balls with 2 wickets in hand. At 13.14 minutes, a Young Afridi and Shoaib Malik ( still playing ) seen in the dressing room. Think that LBW on the 2nd last ball was close. Weak a** throw by the keeper on the final ball. But overall what a choker effort in the end by India to let two tailenders take the game away. BTW I was looking at the speed of some of Pakistani super Phaast t bowler .....phast waqar was bowling between 109 to 130 ....Phaast Wasim was bowling also around same seen few balls and it was 130ish. Shoaib Akhtar was bowling 139-142. If you believe Pakistani and some Indian Akhtar never bowl below 145 and Akram and Younis even at the time of retirement were bowling around 135-140. Rightarmfast, Vijy, Sandz and 1 other 1 3
Rightarmfast Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 4 hours ago, raki05 said: BTW I was looking at the speed of some of Pakistani super Phaast t bowler .....phast waqar was bowling between 109 to 130 ....Phaast Wasim was bowling also around same seen few balls and it was 130ish. Shoaib Akhtar was bowling 139-142. If you believe Pakistani and some Indian Akhtar never bowl below 145 and Akram and Younis even at the time of retirement were bowling around 135-140. What did I say? I have seen Waqar bowling in 130's in early 90's. Some of the matches did display bowling speeds even then. raki05 1
raki05 Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rightarmfast said: What did I say? I have seen Waqar bowling in 130's in early 90's. Some of the matches did display bowling speeds even then. No doubt Wasim, waqar were great bowler but it has to do with their bowling skill , swing , bounce variation. But as per Pakistani and some manjarekar type Indians only thing they hype them for thembeing Phaast. if you look at the video posted waqar speed looks pathetic than Sandeep Sharma , Wasim is a different beast but his speed was also like tired Bhuvi. Shoaib is literally bowling 140ish but as per @Adamant he never bowls below 148 even in test. Edited February 6, 2023 by raki05 Rightarmfast and singhvivek141 2
raki05 Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) On 2/5/2023 at 4:40 AM, Pakistan said: They only came when main Pakistani players were busy playing county so second tier played in those matches. And in wcs... especially when your greatest captain Shat in front of 19 yo kid. Edited February 6, 2023 by raki05
singhvivek141 Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 4 hours ago, raki05 said: No doubt Wasim, waqar were great bowler but it has to do with their bowling skill , swing , bounce variation. But as per Pakistani and some manjarekar type Indians only thing they hype them for thembeing Phaast. if you look at the video posted waqar speed looks pathetic than Sandeep Sharma , Wasim is a different beast but his speed was also like tired Bhuvi. Shoaib is literally bowling 140ish but as per @Adamant he never bowls below 148 even in test. Yup, even @the don for that matter used to argue that Akhtar only bowled under 140 if he's bowling slower ones. Akram and Waqar were medium fast to fast medium, it was their banana swing courtesy of "reverse swing" which used to cause trouble. Once the ICC rules were toughened, suddenly the phasst bowling powerhouse's wiring got short circuited thereby producing faulty products one after the other till date. raki05 and Gollum 2
singhvivek141 Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 On 2/5/2023 at 4:40 AM, Pakistan said: They only came when main Pakistani players were busy playing county so second tier played in those matches. It's not good, when you call your "legends" as second tier. Younis till date is salty due to that assault by Jadeja, turned Waqar into Bekar. Rightarmfast, raki05 and LordPrabhzy 3
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