Aggressive approach v Overaggressive - where does anyone draw a line?

[Trichromatic]

What's the difference? At what point aggressive approach goes over the limit?

[Suhaan]

1 minute ago, Trichromatic said:

What's the difference? At what point aggressive approach goes over the limit?

In a WC Final when your side is doing fine and you hit a 6 and 4 putting further pressure on opposition and still you try to hit them out and thereby pereshing is what you call going over the limit

Final should be played like final with a fraction of precaution as well

Rohit threw it away to start the proceedings

[Chakdephatte]

When one has decides to play a certain way, he is bound to play some 'stupid' shots. When it works, it looks good, when it does not, it's is overconfidence. There's no difference. Another positive contribution by Rohit though. 

[express bowling]

I have an issue with Gill's approach today.

 

Tentatively aggressive.

 

It serves no purpose.

 

Either go hard or don't.  No point in taking half measures and being tentative.

 

Rohit lived by thd sword and died by the sword.  Maybe he could have been a bit more selective .. but we benefitted from his aggressive approach in the past and earlier today and must take the bad with the good. 

Edited November 19, 2023 by express bowling

[IndianRenegade]

Aggressive - try to get a boundary of the first few balls (1-3) of the over.

Overaggrsive - you got that, now instead of reaping the reward for it, you try to make something happen.

 

[srgadjon]

Rohit's approach is not overaggressive. There is a method to his madness. He knew pitch will slow down and ball wont come on to bat. So he was trying to go after the bowlers as much as possible in first 10-15 when the ball was still new. Later on, it will be very tough to score at a quicker pace on this slow wicket.  India still has run rate of 5+ because in first 10 overs, India scored 80.

[singhvivek141]

Rohit is the only one in this team who can get going from ball one, maybe SKY later.

Pitch is going to be slower and slower and most of our batters aren't that good against spin.

 

I understand Rohit threw up his wicket, but more importantly he was try to give us the advantage when the ball in hard..just like Head did in previous game vs SA. It's Gill & Shreyas who should be questioned for their confused approach on the wicket.

 

 

[Laaloo]

Gill was supposed to anchor the innings and Rohit was supposed to take chances. Wtf was that shot from gill?

[nevada]

1 hour ago, Chakdephatte said:

When one has decides to play a certain way, he is bound to play some 'stupid' shots. When it works, it looks good, when it does not, it's is overconfidence. There's no difference. Another positive contribution by Rohit though. 

Yeah, who's to say Rohit wouldn't have perished to a good ball just a few deliveries later? It's time to move on from his dismissal. Iyer's departure hurt us the most today. He is poor man's version of Kohli, knows how to build a big total. 

[Lord]

39 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

Gill was supposed to anchor the innings and Rohit was supposed to take chances. Wtf was that shot from gill?

So once Gill got out, Rohit should have looked to play long.

[nevada]

Are the commies hyping it up to keep interest alive or has the pitch turned into a monster? Only one man can save us now!

[IndianRenegade]

another reverse... what an effing pitch. if dew eases it out, we will have our dumb management to blame.

[Chakdephatte]

45 minutes ago, Lord said:

So once Gill got out, Rohit should have looked to play long.

No. That's Kohli and Rahul's role as the pattern suggests.

[singhvivek141]

Jadeja & SKY's inns were very poor from the context of the game

 

[cricketfan28]

Adaptability is key. We failed to adapt but need skills aa well sly on slow wicket looked bad today.

[Lord]

31 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said:

No. That's Kohli and Rahul's role as the pattern suggests.

 

Thats whats wrong. You have to adapt to each situation

 

Rohit was well set. Would have been tough for new batsmen

[Lord]

Head v Rohit is perfect example. Head sucked it up when required.

[goose]

playing aggressive in high pressure games tends to put pressure back on opponent. we decided to soak it up instead and that effects execution and as proven today you can perish anyway

[R!TTER]

7 hours ago, Chakdephatte said:

There's no difference. Another positive contribution by Rohit though. 

There's a difference - a trophy vs none!

 

What positive contribution, does he want a participation medal for the finals?

[AKane]

I just think that "We will wait until over so and so" to accelerate as Dravid said in his press conference is quintessential Dravid.

 

You have to play each ball on its merit in these situations. Don't tell me there were no bad balls between over 11 and 30. We were batting as per the Dravid school of batting.

 

Play the good balls as they deserve and hit the bad balls.

 

Dravid was crying that we wanted to consolidate and then accelarate but when the time to accelarate came, wickets fell. Consolidation to the point you score 1 boundary in 28.5 overs is self-defeating.

 

After Iyer's 4 at ball 9.6, we had 4 4s at these points - thats it.

 

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38.6

41.5

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