G_B_ Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Extremely poor in the field. Poor situational awareness? Is a proper number 11. Bowls well upfront with the new ball and thats about it. Single dimensions as was the case in the 90s. tweaker, Chaos, vivek04 and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 I think question is how quick has his decline been? He was really good at this time around last year. Link to comment
Sgattick10 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Bowled well against Pak in Melbourne after that it's been a massive downfall. Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 what about guju quota pick Axar patel.cant bat,cant spin the ball even if put a gun against this head but is picked every time. nitinbwj, Rightarmfast, asterix and 4 others 2 1 4 Link to comment
Number Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Was the highest wicket taker in 2022 WC. Will cut him some slack but he really needs to up his game. Nash 1 Link to comment
Majestic Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 It's T20s. We don't have quality. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 On these t20 pitches most will look ordinary. Look at Aus. Stoinis was bowling with the nee ball because they were scared their main bowlers will go for even more runs. nevada 1 Link to comment
Nash Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: what about guju quota pick Axar patel.cant bat,cant spin the ball even if put a gun against this head but is picked every time. Gujju quota players : hardik axar bumrah Jadeja punju quota player : arshdeep ? gujju quota is superior. Edited November 23, 2023 by Nash Link to comment
Nash Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Arshdeep is good for t20. He is slow of my liking. Link to comment
cricspirit Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 1 hour ago, G_B_ said: Extremely poor in the field. Poor situational awareness? Is a proper number 11. Bowls well upfront with the new ball and thats about it. Single dimensions as was the case in the 90s. In the 90's many bowlers could bat a bit. Srinath, Kumble, Agarkar, Harbhajan , Sunil Joshi, Chetan Sharma type could bat.. Players like Debasis Mohanty, Raju and Prasad existed but we never had 4 no.11 walking around even in the 90's Nash and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Chaos Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 3 hours ago, G_B_ said: Extremely poor in the field. Poor situational awareness? Is a proper number 11. Bowls well upfront with the new ball and thats about it. Single dimensions as was the case in the 90s. man… it was embarrassing to watch. Unready to bat up and unready to dive when needed. Link to comment
Insidious Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 It is because they are getting huge money from IPL so early in their career that they have no hunger left. Even, otherwise India have rich history of bowlers who would look good initially but became Crap after 1-2 years of international cricket. Like RP singh, munaf Patel, Irfan pathan. Frustrated and cowboysfan 2 Link to comment
deathmonger Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 9 hours ago, Cricketics said: On these t20 pitches most will look ordinary. Look at Aus. Stoinis was bowling with the nee ball because they were scared their main bowlers will go for even more runs. just put bumrah and one more bowler maybe kuldeep. rest fill with allrounders. eng in 2022, wi in 2012 and 2016 all won with allrounders spamming - even aus to an extent. Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) Most of our young fast bowlers are like that Arshdeep Khaleel Avesh Mukesh Prasidh Natarajan Mohsin They are all dud with bat & mediocre on the field..just don't have the athleticism. No wonder Umesh has been our best fielder across the fast bowlers after Ajit Agarkar. From newer bunch Hangargekar, Nagarkoti & Shivam Mavi are electric on the field and are athletic. Tyagi, Harshit, Deepak Chahar, Mayank, Umran etc are Shami/Bumrah level on the field.. Edited November 24, 2023 by singhvivek141 G_B_ 1 Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 None of these guys have leadership skills,mostly look lost under pressure. Link to comment
Gollum Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Sardarji will bounce back, have faith. Link to comment
Khota Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 If a player can't field, he should never be on the field irrespective of his skillset. Frustrated 1 Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 My guess - in his particular case - is that left-arm pacers are at a premium in India. And in LOIs, esp T20s, it is almost imperative that you have one. Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 very few indian pacers are good fielders,i can only think of kapil,agarkar,umesh,mohit,pandya,mavi. Umesh was a poor catcher but good outfielder. Link to comment
Need4Speed Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 On 11/23/2023 at 9:20 PM, deathmonger said: just put bumrah and one more bowler maybe kuldeep. rest fill with allrounders. eng in 2022, wi in 2012 and 2016 all won with allrounders spamming - even aus to an extent. but we dont have enough quality ARs.. Link to comment
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