Popular Post AuxiliA Posted March 9 Popular Post Share Posted March 9 W/L ratio is equal to 1! Mat- 579 Wins- 178 Losses- 178 Draws- 222 Tied- 1 Up until the infamous Match Fixing scandal reveal of April 2000( immediately after the horrible 0-2 whitewash at home to SA), India's W/L in tests was an abysmal 0.544 (61/112). Since April 2000, it is an impressive 1.773 (117/66). 2nd best after Aus. In the last 10 years, it's the highest 2.111 (57/27). Norman, Real McCoy, Gollum and 13 others 4 6 6 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Still missed a few easy wins, could've easily had 10-20 more wins post 2k - oh well Link to comment
Adamant Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Thank you Kohli. All Hail the GOAT ASIAN TEST CAPTAIN. Lord, raki05, Suhaan and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Since Jan 1, 2013 India at home Played 51 Won 40 Lost 4 Drew 7 This is an unbelievable record. Should be 45-4 by the end of the year. Vijy, Real McCoy and raki05 1 2 Link to comment
raki05 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 18 hours ago, Adamant said: Thank you Kohli. All Hail the GOAT ASIAN TEST CAPTAIN. India won all important series whenever he took strategic break like population control and injury break. ATG tactician express bowling, Real McCoy, mishra and 2 others 5 Link to comment
BlueBlood Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 But still lost two WTC, multiple world cups in 50 overs and T20. Still not favorite of winning next T20 WC. And to make things even more funny, may lose the next WTC as well considering it's scheduled around IPL season. All this when popularity of cricket is at all time low in previously strong nations like Aus, England, NZ, SA. Not sure what's there to celebrate here other than to see MSD manufactured spin dustbowls to win tournaments at home and cement his legacy at exactly the same time when sub continent teams strong in spin deteriorated. Imagine Warne, Muralitharan etc on these pitches... Even Root bowled better than Ashwin in 1st test. It's that bad in terms of quality of spinners around the world when the best spinner is Lyon after the Indian trio. Unless a WTC is won this team has no right to claim supremacy in tests. It's like celebrating coming second in a 2 team sport these days. Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 44 minutes ago, raki05 said: India won all important series whenever he took strategic break like population control and injury break. ATG tactician population control heh? raki05 1 Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 @AuxiliA Thanks for putting the stats up BTW. Great job. AuxiliA and raki05 2 Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 This is a pleasing sight for anyone who saw Indian team in the late 90s getting hammered whenever India stepped out of home. We didn't even have away wins against Zimbabwe. Come 00s our first away win was against bangla boys (their first test), then the whole thing slowly improved with our batting having stalwarts and then with bowling which took over. It all started with Ganguly, then Dravid, Kumble, Dhoni, Kohli, Rahane and now Rohit. Props to Indian team. jo jeeta wohi sikander raki05 and mishra 1 1 Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 There are some unsung hero who need to be recognised. Absolutely no-one talks about Murli Vijay and how critical he was when we were rebuilding after 6-7 retirements within a year. Zaheer Khan took wickets at crucial juncture, which turned game around. While Pujara is remembered today most will forget him like Vijay is forgotten. He won us those 2 series in Australia. Ishant Sharma even Bhuvi have all been critical to achieving this. Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, BlueBlood said: Not sure what's there to celebrate here other than to see MSD manufactured spin dustbowls to win tournaments at home and cement his legacy at exactly the same time when sub continent teams strong in spin deteriorated. Yet Kohli averaged 60+ on those 'dustbowls', Pujara averaged 55, Vijay 45. Shami and Umesh averaging 20-21 in those pitches, better than most ATGs People like you will call this Dharamsala pitch also a dustbowl. Because that is what your western and padosi masters feed you. 1 hour ago, BlueBlood said: Imagine Warne, Muralitharan etc on these pitches... Warne was outbowled by Venkatapathy Raju in 1998 BGT. Rehne de. Muralitharan was a blatant chucker who would be binned aside like Ajmal in modern era. Visiting wristies have never worked in India, not even in earlier eras. Finger spinners' land but even there we saw what Herath did on 'these' pitches. Lyon is an exception but he is also one of the greatest of all time. 1 hour ago, BlueBlood said: Even Root bowled better than Ashwin in 1st test. It's that bad in terms of quality of spinners around the world when the best spinner is Lyon after the Indian trio. Sachin outbowled Warne in 2001 Eden Gardens. Afridi outbowled Kumble, Harbhajan in 2005 Bangalore. Udal outbowled Kumble, Harbhajan in 2006 Mumbai. Sehwag and Yuvraj outbowled Murali more than once in tests in India. Sachin outbowled Saqlain in the 2004 test series in Pak. If you want examples, I have loads of them. Lyon is an ATG. On Asian pitches he is greater than Warne, even Aussie fans on their forum have realized this now. Murali anyway doesn't count since he was a chucker, take his name as many times as you want, but if you wanna talk about legal wickets even Dilshan>Murali. You are not the only person who watches cricket on this forum. Edited March 10 by Gollum rollingstoned, gattaca, mishra and 6 others 6 1 2 Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) Imagine the nerve.......keeping WTC final in Eng for an Ind vs SENA game and calling it neutral. If Aus or NZ were to face India in Dhaka, Colombo, Pallekele, Dubai, heck even Karachi, we would here about 'these conditions' and 'BCCICC' every second minute. Even brown sepoys/coolies of ICF will have a meltdown. Edited March 10 by Gollum rollingstoned, mishra, AuxiliA and 5 others 1 3 4 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 23 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: There are some unsung hero who need to be recognised. Absolutely no-one talks about Murli Vijay and how critical he was when we were rebuilding after 6-7 retirements within a year. Zaheer Khan took wickets at crucial juncture, which turned game around. While Pujara is remembered today most will forget him like Vijay is forgotten. He won us those 2 series in Australia. Ishant Sharma even Bhuvi have all been critical to achieving this. Even Umesh Yadav, first fast bowler who could sustain pace and fitness for a decade. Average bowler, good in Indian conditions, but first one to break that chain of pacers losing pace and stamina after couple of years. Suhaan and mishra 2 Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 20 minutes ago, Gollum said: Sachin outbowled Warne in 2001 Eden Gardens. This is funny but true. He took 3 crucial wickets including gilly and warne himself. must be hard being a leggie and being outdid by a part time leggie and getting out to him as well Sachin bowled well in Kochi in 1998 as well 5 wickets in an ODI won MoM for bowling alone. AuxiliA, Gollum, Vijy and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: This is funny but true. He took 3 crucial wickets including gilly and warne himself. must be hard being a leggie and being outdid by a part time leggie and getting out to him as well Sachin bowled well in Kochi in 1998 as well 5 wickets in an ODI won MoM for bowling alone. Also the 2 crucial wickets in 2003 Adelaide. Ganguly destroyed Pak in Toronto in a series, with the ball. You will be stunned if you see some of his bowling figures, will read better than McGrath's. OTOH a guy like Waqar was pounded mercilessly by lesser known Indian batsmen of the 90s. Aaqib Javed was a bigger threat than the Ws against us, Razzaq won more games for Pak than Akhtar with the ball against India. Funny sport. Edited March 10 by Gollum mishra, Real McCoy, rollingstoned and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 24 minutes ago, Gollum said: Yet Kohli averaged 60+ on those 'dustbowls', Pujara averaged 55, Vijay 45. Shami and Umesh averaging 20-21 in those pitches, better than most ATGs People like you will call this Dharamsala pitch also a dustbowl. Because that is what your western and padosi masters feed you. Warne was outbowled by Venkatapathy Raju in 1998 BGT. Rehne de. Muralitharan was a blatant chucker who would be binned aside like Ajmal in modern era. Visiting wristies have never worked in India, not even in earlier eras. Finger spinners' land but even there we saw what Herath did on 'these' pitches. Lyon is an exception but he is also one of the greatest of all time. Sachin outbowled Warne in 2001 Eden Gardens. Afridi outbowled Kumble, Harbhajan in 2005 Bangalore. Udal outbowled Kumble, Harbhajan in 2006 Mumbai. Sehwag and Yuvraj outbowled Murali more than once in tests in India. Sachin outbowled Saqlain in the 2004 test series in Pak. If you want examples, I have loads of them. Lyon is an ATG. On Asian pitches he is greater than Warne, even Aussie fans on their forum have realized this now. Murali anyway doesn't count since he was a chucker, take his name as many times as you want, but if you wanna talk about legal wickets even Dilshan>Murali. You are not the only person who watches cricket on this forum. Warne was great bowler but whom did he succeed against? English batsmen who were poor against spin, kiwis, saffers. Best batsmen of spin were in India - performed poorly against them, Lara - failed v WI, and Aus - his own team. He was great in his last Sri Lanka tour picking up 26 wickets in 3 tests where Sri Lanka batted last in all 3 games. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 4 minutes ago, Gollum said: Also the 2 crucial wickets in 2003 Adelaide. Ganguly destroyed Pak in Toronto in a series, with the ball. You will be stunned if you see some of his bowling figures, will read better than McGrath's. OTOH a guy like Waqar was pounded mercilessly by lesser known Indian batsmen of the 90s. Aaqib Javed was a bigger threat than the Ws against us, Razzaq won more games for Pak than Akhtar with the ball against India. Funny sport. When I started following cricket, I was seeing Razzaq picking wickets every game and scoring 60-70 runs every game. I used to think he is probably toughest player to handle. Gollum, mishra and rollingstoned 1 2 Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 5 minutes ago, Gollum said: Also the 2 crucial wickets in 2003 Adelaide. Ganguly destroyed Pak in Toronto in a series, with the ball. You will be stunned if you see some of his bowling figures, will read better than McGrath's. OTOH a guy like Waqar was pounded mercilessly by lesser known Indian batsmen of the 90s. Aaqib Javed was a bigger threat than the Ws against us, Razzaq won more games for Pak than Akhtar with the ball against India. Funny sport. Funny sport indeed. People may quote your post and say Cronje is better than McGrath or Donald with the ball mishra, Suhaan, sensible-indian and 2 others 5 Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 9 hours ago, Gollum said: Warne was outbowled by Venkatapathy Raju in 1998 BGT. Rehne de. Muralitharan was a blatant chucker who would be binned aside like Ajmal in modern era. Visiting wristies have never worked in India, not even in earlier eras. Finger spinners' land but even there we saw what Herath did on 'these' pitches. Lyon is an exception but he is also one of the greatest of all time. Sachin outbowled Warne in 2001 Eden Gardens. Afridi outbowled Kumble, Harbhajan in 2005 Bangalore. Udal outbowled Kumble, Harbhajan in 2006 Mumbai. Sehwag and Yuvraj outbowled Murali more than once in tests in India. Sachin outbowled Saqlain in the 2004 test series in Pak. If you want examples, I have loads of them. Wowww Gollum ji rocked. Blue brother shocked. I would love to see @BlueBlood response to this. Real McCoy 1 Link to comment
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