Virat Kohli all set to be dropped from T20WC squad:Reports

[Adamant]

14 minutes ago, New guy said:

I don't think a high average in t20 makes anyone a goat. Kohlis presence disturbs the entire balance of the team.

 

The worst thing any t20 team can have is a stat padder in top 3 who plays lots of balls and mostly hits later. Kohli is also very slow in the middle over against spinners.

 

Multiple analysis has proven that players who play slow initially and then hit later to make up strike rate harm the team more than help. Balls once lost in t20 never come back. The top 3-4 should always be batsmen who can hit at high strike rate from beginning even if they don't play many balls. 

 

I think subcontinent fans (and TM) still have no idea about t20 and they treat it like ODI where you need to play long innings and have a high average. 

 

Averages count for jack **** in t20s. No team with stat padders in top 3 will ever win any cup. An anchor or someone who can help if there is a collapse should be someone coming down the order, someone like stokes or dhoni who can both tuk tuk and hit hard of required. Having anchors in top order is detrimental to the team no matter how much average he shows or how much strike rate they have by hitting later in the innings. 

 

 

 

Kohli has won two man of the tournament in t20 world cups with brilliant performances in both group stage and knockouts.

His knocks have been outstanding, no one is calling him great because of average.

He has played more clutch knocks in t20 world cups that Ferrari tax thief Sachin did in his career.

 

 

[putrevus]

Only idiots think Kohli is stat padder in white ball cricket.

 

He is best t20 world cup batsman period, He never got any help from anyone else. He won two players of the tournaments and single handedly dragged India to one finals and two semi finals.

 

We have Yuvi royally screwing up one finals and Pandya and Bumrah screwed another one semi.

 

Last world cup semis what were so best batsman in t20s SKY and captain doing batting under 100 SR.Pandya was unable to score more than run a ball till end of 17th over.

 

Our so called finisher Pandya could not put bat on ball in 2021 world  t20.

 

England bowled out Pakistan for 138 to win world cup, our so called bowlers go could  not defend 190, 145 and 170 in three knock out matches.

 

Kohli was never the problem , he was the reason why India atleast reached semis and finals. If he is saddled with bozos like Pandya and  guys like Rahul and Rohit, what can he do.

 

Any team will take him including England with eyes closed.

 

He showed why he is GOAT in odis in this world cup.

 

Edited March 12 by putrevus

[Adamant]

57 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Glad there is more consensus that all of Rohit , Kohli and Jadeja needed to be axed, ideally.

 

Kohli is terrible on slowish pitches and against spin. 

 

Should not play any international cricket apart from SENA Tests going forward. 

 

I'm surprised they are even mentioning KL. 

 

 

 

Bro, stop believing in your analysis, as you might have seen , you are wrong 99% of the times.

Before the world cup you told us how Kohli is gonna flop and how Bumrah doesn’t take wickets.

 

Both proved you wrong with one of them producing an ATG worldcup performance.

 

I know you would still defend it by applying some weird filters, but the fact is that you are always wrong.

 

Whatever you think, post exactly opposite of that, it’s more likely to happen.

[Adamant]

Just now, putrevus said:

Only idiots think Kohli is stat padder in white ball cricket.

 

He is best t20 world cup batsman period, He never got any help from anyone else. He won two players of the tournaments and single handley dragged India to one finals and two semi finals.

 

We have Yuvi royally screwing up one finals and Pandya and Bumrah screwed another one semi.

 

Last world cup semis what were so best batsman in t20s SKY and captain doing batting under 100 SR.Pandya was unable to score more than run a ball till end of 17th over.

 

Our so called finisher Pandya could not put bat on ball in 2021 world  t20.

 

England bowled out Pakistan for 138 to win world cup, our so called bowlers go could  not defend 190, 145 and 170 in three knock out matches.

 

Kohli was never the problem , he was the reason why India atleast reached semis and finals. If he is saddled with bozos like Pandya and  guys like Rahul and Rohit, what can he do.

 

Any team will take him including England with eyes closed.

These are Sachin fanboys who will go to any lengths to put down other Indian greats.

 

Was Sachin a statpadder before 2011 world cup? Coz he lost everything 

 

 

[Adamant]

1 minute ago, putrevus said:

Only idiots think Kohli is stat padder in white ball cricket.

 

He is best t20 world cup batsman period, He never got any help from anyone else. He won two players of the tournaments and single handley dragged India to one finals and two semi finals.

 

We have Yuvi royally screwing up one finals and Pandya and Bumrah screwed another one semi.

 

Last world cup semis what were so best batsman in t20s SKY and captain doing batting under 100 SR.Pandya was unable to score more than run a ball till end of 17th over.

 

Our so called finisher Pandya could not put bat on ball in 2021 world  t20.

 

England bowled out Pakistan for 138 to win world cup, our so called bowlers go could  not defend 190, 145 and 170 in three knock out matches.

 

Kohli was never the problem , he was the reason why India atleast reached semis and finals. If he is saddled with bozos like Pandya and  guys like Rahul and Rohit, what can he do.

 

Any team will take him including England with eyes closed.

He is indeed the GOAT t20 batsman and those who have watched him play in world cup know that.

 

He individually carried us in wt20 14 and 16, I have never seen a team being more dependent on one player.

[putrevus]

4 minutes ago, Adamant said:

These are Sachin fanboys who will go to any lengths to put down other Indian greats.

 

Was Sachin a statpadder before 2011 world cup? Coz he lost everything 

 

 

Kohli is 100 times better than Sachin ever was in whiteball cricket. It is not even close. Still if  selectors want to move on from Kohli, it is fine. Everyone has to leave at some time.

 

But pinning lack of success in t20s on Kohli is idiotic.He never had any chance with all other bozos surrounding him.

Edited March 12 by putrevus

[New guy]

10 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Only idiots think Kohli is stat padder in white ball cricket.

 

He is best t20 world cup batsman period, He never got any help from anyone else. He won two players of the tournaments and single handedly dragged India to one finals and two semi finals.

 

We have Yuvi royally screwing up one finals and Pandya and Bumrah screwed another one semi.

 

Last world cup semis what were so best batsman in t20s SKY and captain doing batting under 100 SR.Pandya was unable to score more than run a ball till end of 17th over.

 

Our so called finisher Pandya could not put bat on ball in 2021 world  t20.

 

England bowled out Pakistan for 138 to win world cup, our so called bowlers go could  not defend 190, 145 and 170 in three knock out matches.

 

Kohli was never the problem , he was the reason why India atleast reached semis and finals. If he is saddled with bozos like Pandya and  guys like Rahul and Rohit, what can he do.

 

Any team will take him including England with eyes closed.

 

He showed why he is GOAT in odis in this world cup.

 

Lol you can repeat this a million times but batsmen who start slow and then hit later always harm the team no matter what their end average or strike rate is. There have been multiple studies which showed this including Cricinfos analysis

 

All the middle order struggle etc directly result from stat padders on top. And Rohit playing rashly and getting out early doesn't harm the team as much. 

[New guy]

24 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Kohli has won two man of the tournament in t20 world cups with brilliant performances in both group stage and knockouts.

His knocks have been outstanding, no one is calling him great because of average.

He has played more clutch knocks in t20 world cups that Ferrari tax thief Sachin did in his career.

 

 

They give those awards for 50s and averages. No doubt he has couple of good innings in rescue but the problem is, his role is reduced to that, playing as anchor and rescuing team, but such a role is more suited for someone lower down, you don't need anchors on top to rescue team every match.

 

In an ideal team too 4 should be hitters who can start with high strike rate and anchors should only come lower down. 

[Nikhil_cric]

19 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Bro, stop believing in your analysis, as you might have seen , you are wrong 99% of the times.

Before the world cup you told us how Kohli is gonna flop and how Bumrah doesn’t take wickets.

 

Both proved you wrong with one of them producing an ATG worldcup performance.

 

I know you would still defend it by applying some weird filters, but the fact is that you are always wrong.

 

Whatever you think, post exactly opposite of that, it’s more likely to happen.

Kohli did not do anything outrageous in the World Cup . All he did he was happily statpad at 3 while others were hitting India above par in every match .   He simply played in the most risk-free manner and looked to anchor from ball 1. 

 

 

[Gollum]

39 minutes ago, New guy said:

I don't think a high average in t20 makes anyone a goat. Kohlis presence disturbs the entire balance of the team.

Disservice to call Kohli just a high average guy. He has been very impactful in T20Is (forget IPL tamasha) especially WCs even when not in the best of forms. He has owned the WC like nobody's business and legit played 2-3 ATG knocks. The MCG knock came in difficult conditions against the best bowling attack of the tournament, under all sorts of pressure, and see how he emerged in the end, only Kohli is capable of that kind of thing. 

 

If we are to run into some high quality bowling in the WC, high stakes game, especially a 170-180 total, I back Kohli more than any other player in the world, forget our other guys like SKY, Rohit, Gill. 

 

And last I checked, we will mostly be playing NZ in Barbados, final is also in Barbados....not like other WI pitches. And we need our best batsman against genuine pace, best batsman against hard length 140+. 

 

[Adamant]

3 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Kohli did not do anything outrageous in the World Cup . All he did he was happily statpad at 3 while others were hitting India above par in every match .   He simply played in the most risk-free manner and looked to anchor from ball 1. 

 

 

That was his role decided by the team and he excelled at it, still striked at 90+.

 

Won us games with clutch batting against Aus and Nz.

 

Thats more than enough.

[Gollum]

32 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Kohli has won two man of the tournament in t20 world cups with brilliant performances in both group stage and knockouts.

His knocks have been outstanding, no one is calling him great because of average.

He has played more clutch knocks in t20 world cups that Ferrari tax thief Sachin did in his career.

He did no such thing. He sought exemption, court got involved, tax was fully paid. Media did media things. 

[Gollum]

25 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Kohli is 100 times better than Sachin ever was in whiteball cricket. It is not even close. Still if  selectors want to move on from Kohli, it is fine. Everyone has to leave at some time.

 

But pinning lack of success in t20s on Kohli is idiotic.He never had any chance with all other bozos surrounding him.

99% of people will have Sachin and Kohli among top 5 ODI players of all time....other contenders are Viv, ABDV, Ponting right?

 

So how can you pretend as if Sachin was a nobody in the format. Forget the stats, Sachin dominated a WC in the 90s, 2000s and then as an old man did so well in 2011. 

 

While I strongly disagree with downplaying Kohli's greatness in T20s, same applies to Sachin in ODIs. 

[VT87]

8 minutes ago, Gollum said:

99% of people will have Sachin and Kohli among top 5 ODI players of all time....other contenders are Viv, ABDV, Ponting right?

 

So how can you pretend as if Sachin was a nobody in the format. Forget the stats, Sachin dominated a WC in the 90s, 2000s and then as an old man did so well in 2011. 

 

While I strongly disagree with downplaying Kohli's greatness in T20s, same applies to Sachin in ODIs. 

Sachin (odi ) and Virat T20 literally are GOAT how can someone so dishonest to call him statpadder  .Rohit is not a 10% player of him in T20 wc 

[Serpico]

51 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Kohli has won two man of the tournament in t20 world cups with brilliant performances in both group stage and knockouts.

His knocks have been outstanding, no one is calling him great because of average.

He has played more clutch knocks in t20 world cups that Ferrari tax thief Sachin did in his career.

 

 

Is it a complete coincidence that anytime kohli had a pott, his team lost the trophy? I mean once or twice is unlucky but it happened 4 times. We know these awards are popular choice awards than meritorious.. kane in 2019 also got pott but who thinks it was the best performance in that world cup 

[Gollum]

3 minutes ago, VT87 said:

Sachin (odi ) and Virat T20 literally are GOAT how can someone so dishonest to call him statpadder  .Rohit is not a 10% player of him in T20 wc 

Agree, Sachin was a champ in ODIs, Kohli is a champ in both white ball formats. It is intellectually dishonest to argue otherwise. 

 

Rohit indeed has been a massive disappointment apart from the 2007 edition. Jadeja is the worst ever in T20 WCs but Rohit has been utterly useless for more than a decade in this competition. Not a fan of persisting with him, on top of that they have rewarded him with captaincy 

[Nikhil_cric]

Kohli can't play spin in the middle overs(7-16) when the field is out. How can a # 3 be such a terrible player of spin in a T20 line up?

 

Since 2020,

 

Strike rate of 105 in the IPL and strike rate of 114 in T20I's.  

[Serpico]

People here are missing the most important thing here.. we cannot have 5 specialist batsmen in top 6

 

They're not gonna use jaiswal bowling in big matches. Which means Rohit, Jaiswal, Kohli, Sky, Wkb none of them will bowl. Which means we cannot pick a finisher like Rinku.. because that will be 5 bowling options including pandya.. and if he gets hit by a pigeon or something, we'll be screwed mid-game.

 

So its a shootout between Rohit vs Kohli vs Sky.. only two can play. If Rohit is the captain then its between virat and sky. 

[Gollum]

8 minutes ago, Serpico said:

Is it a complete coincidence that anytime kohli had a pott, his team lost the trophy? I mean once or twice is unlucky but it happened 4 times. We know these awards are popular choice awards than meritorious.. kane in 2019 also got pott but who thinks it was the best performance in that world cup 

Come on man, cricket is a team sport. Kohli was a beast in 2014 and 2016 editions (though I think if we had won 2014, Ashwin was as likely to get POTT, he was the second highest wicket taker, bowling average 10 and E/R of under 6....was matchwinner against Aus and RSA in SF), and excellent in 2012. In last 2 editions as well, he showed his greatness. 

 

If not for Martinez's last minute save against France, Messi too would have ended his career with 2 Golden Balls but no trophy. Legends like Cruyff, Puskas, Platini, Zico, Maldini have dominated multiple WCs without any trophy to show. Maybe Kohli is destined to be a tragic hero in T20 WCs. 

Edited March 12 by Gollum

[tapandrun]

Ashwin and Jadeja are not considered for white-ball anymore, Shami will be taken out of white-ball for test, Rohit and Kolhi to concentrate on ODIs and Test.

All are table-top stories all have played White ball WC, T20Is, untill they take retirements they are/will be considered in all formats in all ICC trophies.

 

Kolhi and Rohit draws huge crowd and attention, Broadcaster would want them , host USA cricket board would want them with such high tkt prices.

 

They were not clear on Dhoni till his retirement, no one was telling if he will be picked or not.