Why don't Indian youngsters and other players not have as much respect for Kohli as they do for Sachin, dhoni etc?

[New guy]

You can see youngsters when they talk about dhoni how much respect they have. Even when he was still playing. Similar things was there for Sachin.

 

Kohli is a huge brand like them. Commentators praise him a lot and hype him. But I don't see the same respect and statements coming from other players and youngsters. Max I see is from some RCB players who are seniors like faf or Maxwell. But other youngsters in the same team and other team players pretend he doesn't even exist when he is supposed to be one of India all time greats in all formata. 

 

What is different here?

 

I have a theory but will wait for others replies first. 

 

 

[Gollum]

He himself misbehaves so much with Indian youngsters in IPL, have never seen Kohli trash talk poyzzz but he doesn't let go an opportunity to talk smack or sledge junior Indian cricketers from outside RCB.

 

Guys like Sachin and Dhoni were dignified when they played, never seeked to bully younger players or show who's boss. Give respect, get respect. 

[Gollum]

Our youngsters may still admire Kohli for his cricket skills, fitness, drive etc., seek to draw inspiration, learn, take advice etc. But will any of you respect someone no matter how good, if he/she tries to put you down especially in public.

 

Not just that, the number of times Kohli uses MC/BC....despite being in such a responsible position where his actions can influence millions of kids......but he will then make videos about women empowerment and teach the society how to respect females. Once you are a public figure, you must choose words more carefully, can't keep acting like a roadside ruffian. 

[Suhaan]

Kohli is sasta Sachin is priceless

[AuxiliA]

Kohli has that arrogant bully streak in him which no amount of PR can shake off. Such kind of people are especially disliked by their colleagues and juniors. 

 

To offset this Kohli needed to win some big trophies as captain to gain respect. But he hasn't, not even in the IPL. 

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

He behaves like a t hug and acts like a saint at the same time. That is why. When their fan boys shared the images of Virat kohli trying to control the crowd from booing of certain players, other fans ahared the images of Kohli giving send offs to other players. Most recently Rahcin Ravindra i think. 

 

[Adamant]

Sachin is actually a very business minded cheap guy with zero empathy and no personality. 

People like him are hardly noticed outside of their work. 

 

For example you must have heard about Sachin using Warnes idea for that legends league and marking it as his own. 

 

A very despicable guy in real life who masks his villainous character by pretending to be a saint. 

 

Kohli on the other hand is a big personality who hardly pretends and is an open book, people like him might gain haters because of this but those who actually really know both of them will have more respect for Kohli. 

 

Thr noughties was an era of pretension for India, Amitabh Bacchan who did c grade sex movies and had affairs outside of marriage started developing his godly image, so did tendulkar. 

 

Srk is also someone who didn't board this train and will never be as respected as Amitabh who is a ten times worse human being. 

 

Its all about deluding the Indian janta, which was very easy to do in the noughties with limited internet connectivity and reliance on newspaper. 

[Adamant]

Also to those who worship him please start reading more about him. 

 

Tendulkar is a womaniser who slept with multiple women post marriage. 

 

The guy is anything but a saint, he has hugely benefitted from PR and media (and bcci) who always tried to make his image clean for Indian cricket. 

 

Just check his attendance in Rajya Sabha and you would know how he makes a fool out of Indians

[Chaos]

Im glad we had a kohli. Our team was bunch of pussss taking sledging tean from other teams. Aussies, including langer when he was a coach instructed australia not to sledge him cuz he turns in to diff kind of beast. Kohli can be kohli, he won us more matches than my own hero sachin.

Edited May 4 by Chaos

[wanted_desi]

Because he is scammer and jealous. Who would forget how he treated any youngster (Batsmen) when he was captain - Pant was almost depressed and it took Kohli taking parental leave for him to blossom. 

 

 

Edited May 4 by wanted_desi

[bowl_out]

I am glad that they don't.

Hope this hero worship ends with thr Rohit Kohli era. Going forward,  I sincerely hope the best performing players are picked on merit.

[bowl_out]

No Kartik Tyagi yet. Not even in Impact sub list. Is he injured? Or is Gill's brain injured?

[vvvslaxman]

5 minutes ago, bowl_out said:

I am glad that they don't.

Hope this hero worship ends with thr Rohit Kohli era. Going forward,  I sincerely hope the best performing players are picked on merit.

 

No. New fan clubs are already there. Ever since squad was announced KL Rahul bots are spamming the twitter.  Shreyas iyer has his own group of supporters.  Shubman Gill, Pant everyone have fan club.  Samson no need of explanation. If anything it will get worse.

[Suhaan]

9 minutes ago, bowl_out said:

I am glad that they don't.

Hope this hero worship ends with thr Rohit Kohli era. Going forward,  I sincerely hope the best performing players are picked on merit.

 

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

No. New fan clubs are already there. Ever since squad was announced KL Rahul bots are spamming the twitter.  Shreyas iyer has his own group of supporters.  Shubman Gill, Pant everyone have fan club.  Samson no need of explanation. If anything it will get worse.

Kohli will be the last superstar people celebrated

I have maintained this another thread as well,don't think anyone irrespective of his super talent will be one

Noone after him will enjoy that status,superstars are thinking of the past maybe someday we win a WC,a Captain there may come close but not absolute superstar

Kohli is the last

 

Edited May 4 by Suhaan

[vvvslaxman]

7 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

 

Kohli will be the last superstar people celebrated

I have maintained this another thread as well,don't think anyone irrespective of his super talent will be one

Noone after him will enjoy that status,superstars are thinking of the past maybe someday we win a WC,a Captain there may come close but not absolute superstar

Kohli is the last

 

 

True. All format player concept has ceased to exist. Nowadays teams play niche players. Look at Gill. He looked like an all formatter last season. Now he is not even part of the squad. Unless you play in all formats people don't really respect you that much. Having said that real heroes like Bumrah are not worshipped. Guys like Ashwin/Jadeja who kept the home domination intact for the longest streak. Bowlers never have that kind of adulation.

[bowl_out]

Del

Edited May 4 by bowl_out

[New guy]

43 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

 

Kohli will be the last superstar people celebrated

I have maintained this another thread as well,don't think anyone irrespective of his super talent will be one

Noone after him will enjoy that status,superstars are thinking of the past maybe someday we win a WC,a Captain there may come close but not absolute superstar

Kohli is the last

 

Exactly, this was my point. We live in different times now. There were multiple reasons for the superstar cult status which previous stars got. We were a poor country without much self respect. We barely achieved anything in any field, most people were struggling. So people looked for whatever joy they got from different places. Nationalism was huge like it's worth poor countries, anyone doing any good was worshipped. It was also the start of big money coming into cricket and ads etc for cricket stars being new, Sachin benefited a lot from this. 

 

Dhoni came at the perfect time when such things were leaking, t20 cricket, huge money and the stat of the PR. But he also won world cups and achieved huge things for the country

 

But both of their support was organic. Sachin particularly was never spared any criticism by anyone, commentators, fans, media. His praise was seldom manufactured. Dhoni's era is where we moved into players having way more power, even capable of getting commentators and selectors sacked. Players become untouchable. However dhoni also had cultivated super star status before he got the power and had genuine emotional connection with audience.

 

Kohli came afterwards in an era where cricket was business and way more commercialized in every aspects. So he still had fame and power but not as much as the other two. 

 

And the future generations will never see this. Everything is manufactured, youngsters come to us as brand and PR, there is very less chance to emotionally connect. Someone like pant winning series in Australia would be worshipped even 10-20 years ago. But with IPL etc there are so many young players doing so many things, it's difficult for us to focus on one. Too much cricket, too much fake PR, too much exposure of players before they even do something, too much completion for fame. There is no real emotional connect.

 

And we live in an era where most people have self respect and are doing better than 90s and 2000s. Over patriotism or reliance on cricket is not needed. There are millions things to entertain us. People don't cry and laught with cricket as much. 

 

Fame, hype, all can be manufactured but emotional connect cannot be. And too much exposure and fakeness and hype kills emotional connection. We will never see a no name youngster suddenly surprise us and win our heart for ever. What we will see is ready made brands coming in and being hyped. 

Edited May 4 by New guy

[raki05]

If you want to understand kohli character look no further ahead than his fans, especially the one on the forum. Kohli arrogance, chichorapan and nichta is exactly how his fan is.

[raki05]

BTW the greatest conspicuous feature of his career would be the greatest indian test series victory against full strength Australia team where he ran away like pussy for the first time. Whenever this Panauti ran away Indian youngsters always performed beyond expectations.

[Real McCoy]

5 hours ago, Gollum said:

He himself misbehaves so much with Indian youngsters in IPL, have never seen Kohli trash talk poyzzz but he doesn't let go an opportunity to talk smack or sledge junior Indian cricketers from outside RCB.

 

Guys like Sachin and Dhoni were dignified when they played, never seeked to bully younger players or show who's boss. Give respect, get respect. 

 

You are spot on this. Him laughing with poyyzz after the embarassment of the CT17 was abominable. He doubled down in his criticism of Pant in WC19. No wonder we lost out first wc encounter against poyzz in the t20 wc

 

5 hours ago, Gollum said:

Our youngsters may still admire Kohli for his cricket skills, fitness, drive etc., seek to draw inspiration, learn, take advice etc. But will any of you respect someone no matter how good, if he/she tries to put you down especially in public.

 

Not just that, the number of times Kohli uses MC/BC....despite being in such a responsible position where his actions can influence millions of kids......but he will then make videos about women empowerment and teach the society how to respect females. Once you are a public figure, you must choose words more carefully, can't keep acting like a roadside ruffian. 

 

So much this. Him taking official team picture with Anushka is another use of privilege wrongly or is it wrogn-ly.  Anushka also admonished some car driver and took picture of him throwing trash. If he acts like this, how can he be respected as a great among fans. No wonder youngsters are aware of getting too close with him.