ungboysj Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 Got to be patient Just 23 and 3 match old Played 2 decent knocks in 6 innings Has the talent . Experts here don't understand most young players take time to develop only after 15-20 macthes u realise true potential of someone People were even baying for Gill blood here when he is just 25 and was learning rollingstoned, lemsip, bowl_out and 1 other 4
rkt.india Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 2 hours ago, Sean Bradley said: Agree, if it's Sai vs Tilak Verma, Tilak Verma has nerves of steel. Sai has so far proved to be a mental midget, we don't want any Kl Rahul in the team. Tilak has better first class average too but batting at 3 isn't as straight forward. Don't think Tilak bats at 3 in FC cricket while Sudarshan opens for TN. So #3 is more natural spot for an opener.
prudent_kreeda Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 17 minutes ago, ungboysj said: Got to be patient Just 23 and 3 match old Played 2 decent knocks in 6 innings Has the talent . Experts here don't understand most young players take time to develop only after 15-20 macthes u realise true potential of someone People were even baying for Gill blood here when he is just 25 and was learning Nahi Bhai . Apun ko tho Root jaisa batting karnewaala chahiye wo bhi 1st test se hi ! If he was so bad he would not have scored 60+ in the 1st innings in this pitch .
vvvslaxman Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 6 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Tilak has better first class average too but batting at 3 isn't as straight forward. Don't think Tilak bats at 3 in FC cricket while Sudarshan opens for TN. So #3 is more natural spot for an opener. Tilak varma was opened up by Tanzim both in under-19 and in ODi in the off stump channel. He is way too vulnerable. He fishes a lot He is a great T20 option. Tilak varma based some low class teams in the first class cricket.
vvvslaxman Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 Here is a guy man. HE is averaging 68 in first class in 8 matches. 1 century 5 fifties. 18 year old Andre Siddharth
Sean Bradley Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: Tilak has better first class average too but batting at 3 isn't as straight forward. Don't think Tilak bats at 3 in FC cricket while Sudarshan opens for TN. So #3 is more natural spot for an opener. I have been a Sai Sudarshan supporter, have advocated for his selection many times. But currently he is not ready for intl cricket and there are better and more prolific players waiting in the wings. tweaker 1
lemsip Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, ungboysj said: Experts here don't understand most young players take time to develop only after 15-20 macthes u realise true potential of someone Absolutely. Plus these are tough and unfamiliar conditions for a number 3 to negotiate. Even Jaiswal has had to be dropped thrice to get to 50 .Even international teams get shot out for sub 100 scores in England in similar conditions. Apart from the opening stand, English batsmen found survival tough here too and their entire team batting in home conditions got shot out in 51 overs. People who are expecting a 23 year old batting at 3 to be the second coming of Bradman in his 3rd test on a green pitch in overcast conditions are deluded. Edited August 2, 2025 by lemsip
rkt.india Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: Tilak varma was opened up by Tanzim both in under-19 and in ODi in the off stump channel. He is way too vulnerable. He fishes a lot He is a great T20 option. Tilak varma based some low class teams in the first class cricket. Tilak plays for Hyderabad which isn't a low class team, plays in elite group. It's weak side but playing for weak side in elite group is a bigger challenge than playing for a strong side.
coffee_rules Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 Sai can fix this . This is Test batting 101. Sai as a young player can change his stance rollingstoned and Lone Wolf 1 1
Lone Wolf Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Tilak varma was opened up by Tanzim both in under-19 and in ODi in the off stump channel. He is way too vulnerable. He fishes a lot He is a great T20 option. Tilak varma based some low class teams in the first class cricket. Technically Tilak looks more solid of the two. You can't argue he has more range than Sai. Tanzim taking him out at U19 or at his debut ODI doesn't mean much. Tanzim is a pretty good bowler in fact. That was a pretty good ball in Asia Cup plus nerves of a debutant on display. Right now Tilak is absolutely ruling County cricket.. Scoring tons and batting for marathon hours. Sai should get a longer rope. There must be shootout between the two during Duleep Trophy. That's how selections should happen ideally. Sai is a potential pick by selectors maybe some Gill GT bias as well. Edited August 2, 2025 by Lone Wolf
Gollum Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 Give him the WI tests as well. Back a player properly, shouldn't be chop and change after every 2 games.
Gollum Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 (edited) Opening and #3 are the most challenging spots for batsmen, especially those debuting in SENA. I don't understand how ICFers want ready made peak Gavaskars, Haydens, Dravids, Pontings in these spots. We haven't had a good #3 for 5+ years now, won't get one if we keep this merry-go-round approach. Anybody can bat at #4 or lower in Eng, coming against older ball and 2nd/3rd spells of opponent spearheads. Edited August 2, 2025 by Gollum rollingstoned and lemsip 2
crictime Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 Sai Sudarshan has age on his side to fix all the issues and make a comeback.
lemsip Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Sai can fix this . This is Test batting 101. Sai as a young player can change his stance All young batsmen batting in unfamiliar conditions need time to work these out. When Ponting first came to India he couldn't score a run and kept getting out in the same way to Harbhajan. Even over his overall career, he never quite mastered Indian conditions averaging less than 27 over a period of 14 years. A lot of people here are applying a ridiculous standard to judge a 23 year old batting at number 3 in England on debut, probably one of the most difficult assignments there can be.
lemsip Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Right now Tilak is absolutely ruling County cricket.. Tilak Varma has played just 4 county FC games ! He is not "ruling" county cricket where even a dud like Dom Sibley has scored a treble century this season. The level of hyperbole here is insane. These county records cannot be used to judge any young player's readiness to face international level attacks in England.
putrevus Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 (edited) Akashdeep has looked more comfortable at crease than Sai has looked all series. That should say it all about this guy. If this guy gets chances against WI then selectors are bigger idiots than I have imagined them . Edited August 2, 2025 by putrevus tweaker 1
gakgupta Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 2 hours ago, putrevus said: Akashdeep has looked more comfortable at crease than Sai has looked all series. That should say it all about this guy. If this guy gets chances against WI then selectors are bigger idiots than I have imagined them . Lol..you should look at the conditions as well... with that logic, akash looked better than gill and nair ---that doesnt mean anything
deepdynamo Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 Agianst WI, we need to blood in "young batter" - not Nair, Easwasaran or Jagadeesan type of 30+ old seasoned Ranji workhorse. Sai, Tilak or Sarfaraz. Iyer can be a good stop gap for the current WTC cycle. tweaker 1
putrevus Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 1 hour ago, gakgupta said: Lol..you should look at the conditions as well... with that logic, akash looked better than gill and nair ---that doesnt mean anything Lol what conditions, he walked in facing new ball. This is not first time this guy failed and looked awful. He has played on flattest pitches against an awful bowling attack and still looked like a guy who has no clue how to bat. iluv80085 1
vvvslaxman Posted August 2, 2025 Posted August 2, 2025 We keep putting down youngsters lol Eventually they come back and give slap on the face of critics. rollingstoned 1
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