randomGuy Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 - at this rate it could be 70% by end of 2024 and a 100% in a couple of years. - China is 33% of global passenger vehicles and is also exporting a lot of EVs. - Even countries like nepal and Ethiopia (Ethiopia even banned ICE car import) are due for 100% electrification very quickly as they are heavily promoting EVs as they have abundant hydro power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Look at these plug in hybrid and their price. Indians will too buy them at this price in large numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboysfan Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 batteries are very cheap there since they manufacture it themselves,no Indian company can compete since the battery is a substantial part of a EV bought outside China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranvir Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 I was going to buy a used BMW M3 but I'm gonna hold out and buy a Porsche Taycan in a couple of years. The range is getting better in these cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 2 hours ago, Singh bling said: Look at these plug in hybrid and their price. Indians will too buy them at this price in large numbers lol Chinese EVs have problems. They are cheap for a reason. China has an oversupply of EV vehicles. Not many Chinese companies are going to survive. Byd have lot of abandoned cars in fields in china. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 hour ago, gattaca said: lol Chinese EVs have problems. They are cheap for a reason. China has an oversupply of EV vehicles. Not many Chinese companies are going to survive. Byd have lot of abandoned cars in fields in china. Chinese EVs are abandoned because just like smartphone better models with longer range are available now https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2023-china-ev-graveyards/ Plug in hybrid is good technology. You can travel long distance or even if you don't get charging point you can still drive car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 There will be massive stress on e-waste recycling going ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) 2 hours ago, Singh bling said: Chinese EVs are abandoned because just like smartphone better models with longer range are available now https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2023-china-ev-graveyards/ Plug in hybrid is good technology. You can travel long distance or even if you don't get charging point you can still drive car The maximum you can get is 48 kms currently but that might lower considerably with heavy traffic especially in India. Might be good enough for low use but still will save some money Edited August 28 by gattaca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Game will start nxt Year when Chinese will open their EV plant in Turkey. EVs produced in Turkey will avoid all the European and Weatern Sanctions or a geopolitical Storm will come nevada 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted September 11 Author Share Posted September 11 (edited) 1. Catl 4-5 months back announced condensed batteries (energy density 500 wh/kg) , to be mass produced by year end for cars as well as airplanes. How costly it's gonna be is unknown....Domestic airliners can all switch to condensed batteries replacing fossil fuels. 2. Present energy density of lithium iron phosphate batteries is 180-190 wh/kg at battery pack level and prices of lifepo4 battery is supposed to drop to 35 usd per kwh by year-end meaning that a 50 kwh battery pack will cost only 1.4 lac INR in China. 3. Charging speeds have increased to upto 600kw. Meaning at this peak speed of charging, in 1 hr you could charge 600 kwh or 50 kwh in just 5 mins. India should atleast build fast charging network to be future ready. Edited September 11 by randomGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 One EV company in India is selling the car and giving battery on rental basis randomGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jf1gp_1 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 On 9/12/2024 at 6:00 AM, diga said: One EV company in India is selling the car and giving battery on rental basis that was in budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 It's a great success story with one caveat. They have humungous capacity now. If they don't find the markets, this will be the usual communist problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted September 21 Author Share Posted September 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, ravishingravi said: It's a great success story with one caveat. They have humungous capacity now. If they don't find the markets, this will be the usual communist problem. Battery storage is also needed in grid storage, esp. solar as sun doesn't shine in night. If world sells 7 crore cars annually with 50 kwh battery each, world will need 3.5 twh for cars alone.. Elon Musk said to be carbon zero grid and all EV and no ICE vehicles till 2045 (21 yrs for today), world need 300 twh total battery storage or about 300/21=14 twh annual capacity.... probably the world will have 8 twh capacity by 2025 end. https://about.bnef.com/blog/china-already-makes-as-many-batteries-as-the-entire-world-wants/#:~:text=BNEF is tracking 7.9 TWh,in batteries for storage applications. The problem is that the demand has to pick up. Ev charging infra, grid solar power etc. have to pick up. Edited September 21 by randomGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 EV is useless. Need to spend a lot of money on battery every 4-5 years. Even for EV scooters lika Ola, battery costs 60-70k currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted September 25 Author Share Posted September 25 Tata launches new Nexon ev with longer range (45 kwh battery) and faster charging starting 14 lacs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Singh bling Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 3 hours ago, randomGuy said: Tata launches new Nexon ev with longer range (45 kwh battery) and faster charging starting 14 lacs. XUV 700 also start at this price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 7 hours ago, randomGuy said: Tata launches new Nexon ev with longer range (45 kwh battery) and faster charging starting 14 lacs. And it's battery replacement after 4-5 years alone must be 6-7 lacs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted September 25 Author Share Posted September 25 36 minutes ago, rkt.india said: And it's battery replacement after 4-5 years alone must be 6-7 lacs. New china EVs have 10 lac km or 15 yrs warrenty on battery.... 10 lac km means entire lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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