Rohit, Gambhir not on same page with team selection, approach and choice of pitches; Indian cricket bearing the brunt

[Adamant]

11 hours ago, Lord said:

@Ultimate_Game Gambhir is so bechara

 

Gambhir is so insecure and senseless, why can’t Ponting comment on Indian cricket?

 

Someone tell Gambhir that Ponting is his baap in cricket and can comment on whatever he wants.

 

Sadly, Gambhir can’t use his popular line “ What did he win for his country “ , coz Ponting will show his trophy cabinet and Gambhir will get unconscious.

 

 

[singhvivek141]

44 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Gambhir is so insecure and senseless, why can’t Ponting comment on Indian cricket?

 

Someone tell Gambhir that Ponting is his baap in cricket and can comment on whatever he wants.

 

Sadly, Gambhir can’t use his popular line “ What did he win for his country “ , coz Ponting will show his trophy cabinet and Gambhir will get unconscious.

 

 

You do know that if Gambhir acknowledge it, what uproar it will cause ?

 

Leave other platforms, you yourself will start showing Gambhir his "aukaat" for talking against Virat.

[Adamant]

3 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

You do know that if Gambhir acknowledge it, what uproar it will cause ?

 

Leave other platforms, you yourself will start showing Gambhir his "aukaat" for talking against Virat.

Well he has already shown his Aukaat, used to behave like he just works for the team and didn’t believe in superstar status. Now he himself is unable to drop Rohit and Virat and is waxing their lyrical.

 

Ultimate beta male.

 

Ps - I have been asking for Virat to be dropped since last two months, same for Rohit.

[Serpico]

Gambhir could have pointed out the poor form of smith instead of getting triggered like this

[Lord]

6 minutes ago, Serpico said:

Gambhir could have pointed out the poor form of smith instead of getting triggered like this

 

Yes. Is uncouth and a loose cannon.

 

No wonder Manju asked BCCI to keep him away from press cons

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, Adamant said:

Well he has already shown his Aukaat, used to behave like he just works for the team and didn’t believe in superstar status. Now he himself is unable to drop Rohit and Virat and is waxing their lyrical.

 

Ultimate beta male.

 

Ps - I have been asking for Virat to be dropped since last two months, same for Rohit.

No doubt, Gambhir hasn't walked the talk so far. But at this instance, I think he did right to reject the Ponting's claims...Auzzies are anyway good in mind games unlike us.

 

For the bold part, I remember after the Ban series you said to give Virat 5 tests, and if he fails then drop him. Till now only 3 tests has happened. So not sure how this 2 months came into the picture.

Welcome to be corrected.

[ash]

1 hour ago, Serpico said:

Gambhir could have pointed out the poor form of smith instead of getting triggered like this

Yes, either keep quiet or troll back in a sportive way. Anything is better than this verbal diarrhoea. 

[tweaker]

Even if we consider Rohit and Gambhir are not on the same page regarding the selection etc,but the team was too strong to be defeated 3-0 at home.

 

The selection problem may be of 1 or 2 places,but the team on home soil consisting of Ashwin, Jadeja, Sundar,Kuldeep, Bumrah ,Pant,Rohit,Kohli,Rahul,Jaiswal was too strong for New Zealand. 

[Lord]

Just now, tweaker said:

Even if we consider Rohit and Gambhir are not on the same page regarding the selection etc,but the team was too strong to be defeated 3-0 at home.

 

The selection problem may be of 1 or 2 places,but the team on home soil consisting of Ashwin, Jadeja, Sundar,Kuldeep, Bumrah ,Pant,Rohit,Kohli,Rahul,Jaiswal was too strong for New Zealand. 

 

Selection wasn't an issue. It was approach. Over attacking in batting and over defensive in bowling. I think its the result of Kanpur Test specially batting 

[rkt.india]

6 hours ago, Adamant said:

Well he has already shown his Aukaat, used to behave like he just works for the team and didn’t believe in superstar status. Now he himself is unable to drop Rohit and Virat and is waxing their lyrical.

 

Ultimate beta male.

 

Ps - I have been asking for Virat to be dropped since last two months, same for Rohit.

They both have flopped only in one series in his tenure which is hardly 5 months old. No coach will do that so soon. If they fail in bgt badly like against NZ, they will be out soon. Also coach doesn't pick or drop players, it's the job of selectors. Coach can only put in his opinion.  Coach doesn't select the players in India. It's not football. 

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, tweaker said:

Even if we consider Rohit and Gambhir are not on the same page regarding the selection etc,but the team was too strong to be defeated 3-0 at home.

 

The selection problem may be of 1 or 2 places,but the team on home soil consisting of Ashwin, Jadeja, Sundar,Kuldeep, Bumrah ,Pant,Rohit,Kohli,Rahul,Jaiswal was too strong for New Zealand. 

 

 

Only difference is our lower order did not bail them out even once unusually for the entire series. India very well would have lost the series to Australia if only Axar had not played some crucial innings with bat.

[Lord]

14 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

 

Only difference is our lower order did not bail them out even once unusually for the entire series. India very well would have lost the series to Australia if only Axar had not played some crucial innings with bat.

 

Axar there, Ashwin vs BD, sometimes Jadeja. Remove these three and our home dominance would be over much earlier

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, Lord said:

 

Axar there, Ashwin vs BD, sometimes Jadeja. Remove these three and our home dominance would be over much earlier

 

People under-estimate the value of our lower order. So many tough runs came from them. We should look beyond averages. Guys like Kohli could even out average by scoring a 196 runs on a road. But fact is he went missing in challenging conditions.  Heck even Kuldeep played a decisive role with bat against England during his partnership with Jurel. 

[rkt.india]

16 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

 

Only difference is our lower order did not bail them out even once unusually for the entire series. India very well would have lost the series to Australia if only Axar had not played some crucial innings with bat.

Right. Axar made the difference with the bat against Australia, unavailability of Kohli also helped. He hogs such a crucial position. Also jaddu and ashwin not at their best played too. Axar did nothing with the ball but aptly made up by Ashwin-Jaddu. Here everything fell apart. 

[Adamant]

23 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

No doubt, Gambhir hasn't walked the talk so far. But at this instance, I think he did right to reject the Ponting's claims...Auzzies are anyway good in mind games unlike us.

 

For the bold part, I remember after the Ban series you said to give Virat 5 tests, and if he fails then drop him. Till now only 3 tests has happened. So not sure how this 2 months came into the picture.

Welcome to be corrected.

I did post that he should be dropped right after the first test vs Nz.

 

Gambhir could have said something better here, just saying that he supports Kohli and Rohit should have been enough, Ponting made a very basic point that Kohli has scored just two centuries, there was no reason for Gambhir to get triggered by that.

 

 

[Adamant]

18 hours ago, rkt.india said:

They both have flopped only in one series in his tenure which is hardly 5 months old. No coach will do that so soon. If they fail in bgt badly like against NZ, they will be out soon. Also coach doesn't pick or drop players, it's the job of selectors. Coach can only put in his opinion.  Coach doesn't select the players in India. It's not football. 

By that Logic its not the players fault that they are playing when selectors don’t have enough cojones to drop them.

 

Gambhir as Indian coach definitely has power to influence selection, same goes with Rohit, its ignorant to think otherwise.

[rkt.india]

39 minutes ago, Adamant said:

By that Logic its not the players fault that they are playing when selectors don’t have enough cojones to drop them.

 

Gambhir as Indian coach definitely has power to influence selection, same goes with Rohit, its ignorant to think otherwise.

Yeah coach can influence selection but for players who are selectable. Kohli selects himself. He is that big a player. He is the second most successful Indian batsman ever, second highest number of centuries. Players of such magnitude are only dropped with thorough consensus from coach captain to board.

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, Adamant said:

I did post that he should be dropped right after the first test vs Nz.

 

Gambhir could have said something better here, just saying that he supports Kohli and Rohit should have been enough, Ponting made a very basic point that Kohli has scored just two centuries, there was no reason for Gambhir to get triggered by that.

 

 

Indeed, Gambhir wasn't wise in choosing the words. 

Ravi Shastri too did same thing vs Nasir Hussain when Indian was faltering vs Eng in 2014 series. There too he said like what gives Nasir the authority to talk about Indian team or something similar...which later Nasir confronted on air.

 

Seems we lose our composure and ability to communicate in English when we are under pressure. 

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, Adamant said:

By that Logic its not the players fault that they are playing when selectors don’t have enough cojones to drop them.

 

Gambhir as Indian coach definitely has power to influence selection, same goes with Rohit, its ignorant to think otherwise.

Legend Srini mama started the "process".

 

[Laaloo]

On 11/12/2024 at 9:28 AM, Lord said:

 

Axar there, Ashwin vs BD, sometimes Jadeja. Remove these three and our home dominance would be over much earlier

Heck even in 2010, it was harbhajan who saved a test match against NZ when we were like 6 down for 70.