Batting depth was differentiating factor

[Trichromatic]

Both in WT20 and CT

[tapandrun]

30 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Both in WT20 and CT

Pandya in white-ball gives the team ability to be flexible with the line-up can have extra pacer or extra spinner depending upon conditions.

If there was some seamer who could bat like just able to get through 12-18 balls and able to hit 4/6 when needed will make the team more potent

[jf1gp_1]

35 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Both in WT20 and CT

Without compromising bowling needs 

[Ultimate_Game]

It's clear you need to at least bat till 8, and preferably till 9. We won WT20 and CT after we started batting deep till 8. Before that we went with a lighter batting lineup and failed.

[Trichromatic]

6 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Without compromising bowling needs 

 

Yes for sure.

 

WC 2023 had situation where batting was non-existent after no 5 and they included fraud tailender SKY as X factor. So team ended up batting like they have to draw the game.

 

For over a decade, the template of failure of Indian team has been more or less same - stars in top 3 fail in finals as opposition comes prepared with plan. Once they fail, Indian team just doesn't recover.

 

Once Rohit changed approach of going bang bang in first 10, middle needed to capitalize on that start.

 

Hopefully this will remain the approach in white ball cricket going forward.

[deathmonger]

main thing now is to groom pace allrounders like nkr/bawa so if hardik gets injured doesn't * up the combination like 23.

[deathmonger]

23 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

 

Yes for sure.

 

WC 2023 had situation where batting was non-existent after no 5 and they included fraud tailender SKY as X factor. So team ended up batting like they have to draw the game.

 

For over a decade, the template of failure of Indian team has been more or less same - stars in top 3 fail in finals as opposition comes prepared with plan. Once they fail, Indian team just doesn't recover.

 

Once Rohit changed approach of going bang bang in first 10, middle needed to capitalize on that start.

 

Hopefully this will remain the approach in white ball cricket going forward.

yeah and jadeja at 7.

 

jadeja at 8 with axar/pandya is such a good lineup.

[singhvivek141]

Rightly pointed.

 

Extra batting with no compromise on bowling is the key for our success.

Many here has been stating BCCI to develop NKR/Bawa as Pandya's backup, so that it he gets injured we can have a replacement ready. Nitish is a better batter & Bawa is a better bowler.

 

In current era, only 1 or at max 2 players should be one dimensional ... you have to have batting ability till no 9. So that even if you are 7 down, opposition can't take it easy.

[bowl_out]

Pandya and Axar provide the perfect balance.. they can accelerate or play the waiting game

[R!TTER]

1 hour ago, Trichromatic said:

WC 2023 had situation where batting was non-existent after no 5 and they included fraud tailender SKY as X factor. So team ended up batting like they have to draw the game.

It wasn't non existent, we had Jadeja/Surya Kumar after KL but the cap was chicken shite & didn't trust Surya Kumar - which begs the question why was he included in the first place after HP got injured?

[Lord]

Even in WC 2019, Jadeja batted at 8 and it almost worked for us despite being 92/6

 

The main reason for imbalance is non bowling of superstar bats. We fixed it a bit now with playing Axar and giving gloves to KL

 

But its not a long term solution. Axar is not a no. 5. We need someone like Parag/Reddy there

[mikeypbadana86]

3 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

 

Yes for sure.

 

WC 2023 had situation where batting was non-existent after no 5 and they included fraud tailender SKY as X factor. So team ended up batting like they have to draw the game.

 

For over a decade, the template of failure of Indian team has been more or less same - stars in top 3 fail in finals as opposition comes prepared with plan. Once they fail, Indian team just doesn't recover.

 

Once Rohit changed approach of going bang bang in first 10, middle needed to capitalize on that start.

 

Hopefully this will remain the approach in white ball cricket going forward.

Rohit remodelled himself "as sehwag". It took us a decade of find a version of sehwag in Rohit. Its not easy which is why Indian team lacked the firepower for close to a decade from 2013-2023 with rohit himself batting conventionally.

[R!TTER]

9 minutes ago, mikeypbadana86 said:

Rohit remodelled himself "as sehwag". It took us a decade of find a version of sehwag in Rohit.

That's BS, the only reason he did that was the shellacking in 2022 WT20 - it was Dhawan who used to do his work! Before Dhawan was booted out RGS had the time/cushion to play himself in & yet he failed miserably in every *ing KO, except the QF vs Bangers in 2015 WC. Both RGS & BRat have been pampered way too long by the media despite them both being the chicken heart/pea brains in WC or ICC KO's before 2023 WC. Even in that they failed to execute what they should've done i.e. play out 50 overs batting first!

[G_B_]

Axar Hardil Jaddu...

 

Bowling unit is fixed (bumrah would come in if fit) for 2026. 

 

[mikeypbadana86]

5 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

That's BS, the only reason he did that was the shellacking in 2022 WT20 - it was Dhawan who used to do his work! Before Dhawan was booted out RGS had the time/cushion to play himself in & yet he failed miserably in every *ing KO, except the QF vs Bangers in 2015 WC. Both RGS & BRat have been pampered way too long by the media despite them both being the chicken heart/pea brains in WC or ICC KO's before 2023 WC. Even in that they failed to execute what they should've done i.e. play out 50 overs batting first!

 

Dhawan is no sehwag, can never compare dhawan with sehway/jayasuriya/gilchrist. 

[cowboysfan]

playing 4 spinners for me,i dont think any team has tried that in a major competition and it worked.

[CoverDrive]

100%. Rohit with Dravid and later Gambhir have invested in it and we have got dividends in terms of trophies. They even kept Sundar around for that purpose and was one of the reasons Rana was preferred over Arshdeep. 

 

Going forward that has to be the strategy. India have to utilize on our squad depth with multiple team players pitching together rather than relying on top 3-4 players. 

 

Guys like Axar, Iyer, Rahul could taken on the spinners and hit those crucial sixes because of the cushion of people coming later. Yesterday i was worried during Axar, Iyer partnership that we have only Rahul and Jadeja to follow then i  remembered we also have Pandya. 

[Frustrated]

Presence of genuine ARs like Pandya &  Axar made all the difference.  If Nitish Reddy improves his bowling, he can be the next Pandya. His batting ability is at par with Pandya.  

[tapandrun]

7 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

Presence of genuine ARs like Pandya &  Axar made all the difference.  If Nitish Reddy improves his bowling, he can be the next Pandya. His batting ability is at par with Pandya.  

As soon as captain has 6+ bowling options they become better at strategizing. can rotate the bowlers around, opposition teams do not know when tthe weaker link in the bowling going to come so they can not plan the hitting/big overs in the innings and may take risk before the weaker link comes on or be too late as the weaker link was introduced too late

 

Any 1 having abad day can be rotated out or even not bowled in the match any further. 

 

 

 

  

Edited March 10 by tapandrun

[Lord]

4 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

As soon as captain has 6+ bowling options they become better at strategizing. can rotate the bowlers around, opposition teams do not know when tthe weaker link in the bowling going to come so they can not plan the hitting/big overs in the innings and may take risk before the weaker link comes on or be too late as the weaker link was introduced too late

 

Any 1 having abad day can be rotated out or even not bowled in the match any further. 

 

 

 

  

 

6 bowling options are must now