goose Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 first 30 min is Sky News (UK) interview with Pak Defence Minister - interesting watch!
mishra Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 1 hour ago, putrevus said: So India will construct dams overnight to stop water from Indus river. what good is IWT suspension going to do. This is all eyewash to change public perception and lull Indian voters to think that govt is doing something. There are few projects already there. Pakistan has put hold on them based on IWT. India has been asking Pakistan to renegotiate the treaty for past 5-6 years. Now they will complete and may be new ones will also get launched. Industrialisation plan of Kashmir will need energy
mishra Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 16 minutes ago, goose said: first 30 min is Sky News (UK) interview with Pak Defence Minister - interesting watch! Watched it live. After that he went on ary news. There he took it to new level. Hindutva doval modi shah Sgattick10 1
coffee_rules Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 They didn’t stop this circus. They just did it with gates closed with no handshake. That should teach the terrorists a lesson.
IndianRenegade Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 1 hour ago, putrevus said: It is superior but not by so much plus war cannot be won by Navy alone, Airforce is also needed and there India has to upgrade a lot. What will navy do in mountains. An army marches on its stomach, in a full scale war if we are able to cripple its ports, it will cripple Pak.
Muloghonto Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 2 hours ago, putrevus said: That is main issue for India.India is not so much superior to Pakistan in any of them Airforce, Navy or even Army.Can Pakistan dare to take on China .China will crush them. Indian navy and airforce are so tragically behind.A small country like Pakistan should be scared by might of Indian armed forces but it is not the case. Unless India becomes somewhat like China in having strong armed forces which will act as deterence nothing will change. Guys like Modi will thump their chests on nonsense like Balakot and Uri surgical strikes. We are massively superior in navy. India vs Pakistan navally is usa vs uk navally. We can show up drunk and hungover ans still stomp them dead
Muloghonto Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 2 hours ago, IndianRenegade said: While that is true from a deterence prespective, we can't let this go unanswered, & it must be made clear to Pakistan that retaliation will be against the top planners & not just the foot soilders. Deterence should always include a wide range of options, breaking up Pakistan should be the ultimate goal. But we should be under no illusion that it can happen without our intervention. Even in 1971 without our involvement Pak may have held onto Bangladesh even if itook a genocide. To this end we should have a clear military dominance over Pakistan at all times, you will never know when the opportunity will present itself. Its a shame we already don'y have 5th gen fighter, AMCA will take time, India should use the Trump admin offer for F35s , make it clear the deal is only on if we have no restrictions w.r.t Pakistan. That's not a serious offer and we will not be serious clients. F35 talk is just tamaasha. Us will never sell f35 to s400 operator and we will never give up s400.
jf1gp_1 Posted April 25, 2025 Posted April 25, 2025 1 hour ago, ravishingravi said: Looks like retaliation is coming. Yes we will stop playing cricket and ban pakistani actor or kill some terrorist.
bsriharsha Posted April 25, 2025 Posted April 25, 2025 We can't build all the dams immediately to make full use of withdrawing from the archaic IWT. Until then. 1. Get FATF on Pakistan's arse immediately. Use all possible avenues to get them into blacklist. 2. Lobby for US to delay further bailouts for Pakistan by pressurizing IMF. Can't be giving bailouts to a terrorist country 3. Release flood of water at the peak of their agriculture planting season , ensuring the land is flooded and not suitable for any agriculture. Deprive them of that particular forex basis. 4. Get ready for more attacks in the case of step 3 being taken. 5. Reimpose army rule in Kashmir temporarily. A small military action targetting the compounds of JEM and LET can possibly be countenanced. If we have suitable proof this time of the number of militant killed. And stop falling for Pakistani bluffs , they keep threatening nuke warfare but those guys won't fire the nukes knowing that their entire country will be destroyed.
Muloghonto Posted April 25, 2025 Posted April 25, 2025 3 minutes ago, bsriharsha said: We can't build all the dams immediately to make full use of withdrawing from the archaic IWT. Until then. 1. Get FATF on Pakistan's arse immediately. Use all possible avenues to get them into blacklist. 2. Lobby for US to delay further bailouts for Pakistan by pressurizing IMF. Can't be giving bailouts to a terrorist country 3. Release flood of water at the peak of their agriculture planting season , ensuring the land is flooded and not suitable for any agriculture. Deprive them of that particular forex basis. 4. Get ready for more attacks in the case of step 3 being taken. 5. Reimpose army rule in Kashmir temporarily. A small military action targetting the compounds of JEM and LET can possibly be countenanced. If we have suitable proof this time of the number of militant killed. And stop falling for Pakistani bluffs , they keep threatening nuke warfare but those guys won't fire the nukes knowing that their entire country will be destroyed. we dont care about nuclear bluff. its a bluff and we know. we care about having sufficient ability to defend our ports from their cruise missiles/drones. We dont have full capacity yet, but we will be by the time the dam works are ready be effective lever vs pakistan. we dont care one iota they have nukes. We care a lot that if they suddenly cruise missile the heck out of our ports particularly in gujrat and mumbai - which are in their range, we are Le scrood far more than we can by blowing up their johpar-patti of what passes for karachi AND gwadar. thankfully, CM+drone threats are solvable, at least at the long rangers involving even Jamnagar facility ( the most obvious drone/CM strike attack for Pakistan on an indian high value port) because thanks to Kutch, it doesnt involve a continuous flight-path over water, so easier to track and try to kill through layered AD. This is the capability India wants to have in place before we go punish them for being dickhead isloos. And once that is in place, its game over for pakistan in a very serious way- we will cause a war and manage it enough to not go nuclear and lead to direct splittage of balochistan and durand line going bye bye. Fattu pakjabis wont do diddly dog-squat about nukes unless we try to take over Lahore or Islamabad or Karchi in one shot but that will not be our war response once we secure our ports. They know this, we also know this, this is why there is provocation going on. By the way, all this extremely war-like posturing of India towards Pakistan is a very strong move by India: Pakistan military is matching out of panic to as minimum they must which means they are burning through their military fuel stockpile far worse than we are. What we are seeing, may or may not lead to war, but it most definitely will lead to Pakistani taanki being at 0 for war fuel and Pakistani gormint scramming for military scale supply purchases of refined oil.
ravishingravi Posted April 25, 2025 Posted April 25, 2025 41 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: Yes we will stop playing cricket and ban pakistani actor or kill some terrorist. No no. Follow the news. Thus will escalate wildly.
ravishingravi Posted April 25, 2025 Posted April 25, 2025 Indus water is not a commitment anymore. It's a leverage point. And india wants to use this as leverage. This water can't be diverted overnight. But overtime... Yes. coffee_rules 1
straighttalk Posted April 25, 2025 Posted April 25, 2025 4 hours ago, goose said: first 30 min is Sky News (UK) interview with Pak Defence Minister - interesting watch! This mother *er says that Pakistan is the biggest victim of terrorism..blood asshole..chutiye kaha se ata hai
kepler37b Posted April 25, 2025 Posted April 25, 2025 Now I see even auto driver's discussing and saying "they are all like that". Of course the sample size is 2 This incident has caused more damage to islam that any other thing could. The most idiotic thing is that feminists and liberals are opposing main stream view just for sake of virtue signalling. raki05 1
Lone Wolf Posted April 25, 2025 Author Posted April 25, 2025 I hope our jhaatu media doesn't pressurises GoI on this one like Abhinandan and take an L for one friggin soldier. Paxtanis are using him as leverage. They know Indians are emotional fools in such matters. Gollum and Sgattick10 2
rkt.india Posted April 25, 2025 Posted April 25, 2025 News coming in that the area was closed for tourists and they didn't inform army raki05 1
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