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Real McCoy Veteran

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8 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

 

Reactionary again. People should follow news and geo politics more closely. Who do you think has opened Balochistan and Pushtun front, attacks on chinese ? There was one horrifying attack in Pahalagam. There are dozen attacks in a quarter in Pakistan. Plus unknown gunmen. 

 

This is not Doval. This is India's strategy. Some leveraged from Congress time and some modified. 

 

Start following news in Pakistan. You will connect things. 

 

How about you follow America and their actions over the last century. Then observe their actions towards India and Pakistan. Then you observe how Indian and Pakistani bigwigs acted throughout their history. You will have a bigger picture of what reality actually is. You were wrong during covid vaccine which you realized later. What makes you think you are right now.

ravishingravi Grand Master

ravishingravi

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Just now, Real McCoy said:

 

How about you follow America and their actions over the last century. Then observe their actions towards India and Pakistan. Then you observe how Indian and Pakistani bigwigs acted throughout their history. You will have a bigger picture of what reality actually is. You were wrong during covid vaccine which you realized later. What makes you think you are right now.

 

I think you are losing credibility very fast by bringing Covid here. We are talking about specific subject so let's stick to it. I am man enough to accept when I am wrong. Perhaps you have never been wrong about anything, then you are no man. 

 

Now I don't disagree with what you are saying. And I have as low a view of US as anyone.  I am looking at chain of events and India's interest. Pahalagam incident didn't happen in a void. Just a month before, Punjabis were identified and killed in Balochistan. There are Pak army men dying every other day. TTP is attacking on western front. Whom did Jaishankar meet before this attack ? Taliban. 

 

Big picture. US has chosen a side in fight against their enemy no 1. That's India. India is reticent about US and cannot play vassal state. But as chess pieces are set up for final confrontation ( which could be 3-4 years away ), India has to secure it's interests. Growth of its economy. Defence of its peope. If these two fold, then there is no future but become poor vassal state. 

 

China has chosen to hurt us but we can't take China on at this stage thanks years of hindu growth rate. So we are having to do this unreal balancing act while managing $2500 gdp per capita nation. 

 

But our capabilities are improving exponentially as we just saw. And our enemies saw. India has to open eastern front if it has to grow. Pakistan is nit acting again India. China is the pupeteer and US is the profiteer. 

 

So what are we planning to do. Pakistan presumed that it is secured after gaining nuclear arms. What it doesn't understand is that nu lear arms are no good country breaks from within. Dwindling economy and water crisis will crush them. Taliban and balochis will do the rest. And who will be pushing on the other side ? Us. 

 

And don't rule out taking Pok in a surprise attack. Pakistan can't afford this level of vigilance. 

crictime Mentor

crictime

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24 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

I had mentioned earlier in the thread. Learning from Ukraine. Don't do a ball by ball guys. Trust your army. If they can destroy the airbases within Pakistan. They can get rid of Pak army on ground to acquire pok. It's not the side which makes more noise that wins. 

Net net, going by your recent posts, what you are saying is very correct. Pakistan is economically pulverised depending on yearly loans for day to day needs and inflation totally unafordable to their citizens. 

 

We did enough damage to Pakistan through Operation Sindoor. However, incapibility to strategize to get an upper hand by PM was inspite of the long history he opted Paksitanis request for peace at the first attempt knowing the snake will bite and break it. He should have kept their ceasefire talks request on hold for few more days while the Indian army had caused more damage to them militarily and economically.  India should have engaged Pakistan for few .ore days. And then when ceasefire request from Pakistan being accepted by India only at the conditions favoring India.

 

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Sean Bradley Veteran

Sean Bradley

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25 minutes ago, Gollum said:

@ravishingravi people are upset not just because of this ceasefire. 

 

But because they observe a recurring theme with this government. 

 

Modi and co. generally identify problems, and start off good, often with a bang. But rarely take things to logical conclusion. This is the crux of the issue. We all saw how this government faltered with farm laws and CAA/NRC, despite them becoming acts !!!! Those are forgotten now. And their IT cell, godi media can turn everything and anything into masterstrokes, 38D chess, 49D poker, Chankya neeti etc. Complete lack of accountability and follow through action. 

 

Many of these those kadams (except IWT) were also promised after Uri/Pulwama. And they held through for a few months, but then reneged on their own thos kadams. 

Makes me think sometimes if Modi is just harnessing the issue for personal gains like vote bank politics, and actually not interested in resolving the Kashmir issue neither with dialogue or force. 
 

There is barely a closure against anything as your rightly mentioned. This has become a global embarrassment for us, our media has been badly exposed and lost all credibility. We started off with a bang and fizzled out without much gains to show for apart from some damage to runways and few of the terrorist family members.

 

The real perpetrators are still at large and our trophy cabinet is nothing but empty.

coffee_rules Grand Master

coffee_rules

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1 hour ago, Real McCoy said:

I knew this will happen. Talk big when it comes to taking the initiative, cooling it and build frustration among the ranks. Hats off to Indian armed forces. All the civilian and military casualties are nothing to the government including the terror attack victims. @coffee_rules This is why I stopped praising the govt. I don't think this is incompetence but by design. India all the way back to Gandhi and Nehru did it. We are not free yet. We are part of the larger world game.

Read about what we did after 26/11/2008. Something, so action is better. You don’t have to be all negative. Yes, we want more, but all in good time. We are on the right path 

Teengunalagaan Veteran

Teengunalagaan

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Let's just hope after this the urgency needed for indigenous weapons which have now proven their capability, and defense procurement is now given the attention it needs after years of neglect of defense budget.

 

Because at some point confllct with China will also knock on our door. This is not a one day, one month or one year war, we are in this for the long haul.

 

 

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Suhaan Grand Master

Suhaan

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No amount of pounding whether on civilians or military assets will force rogue pakistan to stop terrorism

It can buy time i agree,infra can be rebuilt

The main problem of inflitration is due to those launching pads which are in POK,

Lol,unless that is taken ,you cannot have long time peace,so basically India has to expand its borders

Do you really think it's a matter of 2 more days of operation that could have brought in those results

We will have To be strong enough to absorb US or China pressure,both militarily and economically

US knows it, economy is our biggest priority,they have certainly pressurised us on that

Even if we had launched an operation to take over POK now,i don't think many here and in the country who give war cry /rudaali cry as per whims, have the balls to take in huge price to do that

Pakistan has backing of two big powers behind it,

Who do we have now?They will certainly continue harboring terrorists,we have to be vigilant and play the long game

 

singhvivek141 Grand Master

singhvivek141

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28 minutes ago, raki05 said:

Bollywood chutiyas dint gave any encouraging comment while we were at war but as soon as ceasefire broke out totla javed, sonam kapur usual suspects started poring twitter that how its good for both nation.

Bollywood jhantu's are given too much respect.

raki05 Grand Master

raki05

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14 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Western/US headlines are all anti India.

How badly we lost Information warfare.  

A jhaantu Bhikhmanga country managed to sway Public opinion in their favour.   

I fully agree with Certain Right wing voices calling for removal and revamping of Indian MIB ministry.

They aren't serving Indian interests with their incompetence @Gollum

But NYT did publish that pakistani went crying to US like 99 that India is trying to destroy our nuclear base …. Save us nahi toh hum nuclear dhamaka kar dengey!!

Lone Wolf Grand Master

Lone Wolf

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Biggest positive was Indian indigenous weaponry proving its mettle.

Except on aircraft/Naval front we can become self sufficient in every other sector within a short space.

Rapid modernization gear to our Army must be our priority.  Look at Chinese Armed forces gear... Even if we can't fully modernize at their level we can still cover sizeable portion of our fighting units.

 

Paxtan will never stop,  US will never stop & China will be on our doorstep sooner than later.

Only a self sufficient MIC can protect the this nation.

 

Bigger powers will never allow us to become a 7-8-10 trillion dollar economy .. sooner we get this into our heads the better.

No one is our friend.  Vasudev Kutumbukum is a biggest lie... India is buddha ka desh is a even bigger lie.

Dhando mentality will only bring doom and gloom to this nation.

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