I think it is a travesty that someone with these FC stats is not anywhere red-ball selection

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Not on Ind A, not on ROI, not even Duleep teams I believe:   50 matches, 72 innings, 11 n.o., 3336 runs, Ave 54.68, SR 71.14

[Sooda]

Ooh... Without checking im going to guess...

 

Indrajith?

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46 minutes ago, Sooda said:

Ooh... Without checking im going to guess...

 

Indrajith?

Good guess. But incorrect. Indrajith has played far more cricket but his dominance factor (as measured by Avg+SR) is much lower.

[Gollum]

Sadly, Rinku has been typecast as a T20I finisher. Even in IPL, KKR rarely sends him at the top or even middle overs. 

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22 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Sadly, Rinku has been typecast as a T20I finisher. Even in IPL, KKR rarely sends him at the top or even middle overs. 

100/100

[tapandrun]

selectors still prefers test batters from top 4-5 domestic teams. 

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17 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

selectors still prefers test batters from top 4-5 domestic teams. 

Or ones perceived to be in the top 4-5 domestic teams, thanks to history

 

Jaiswal (Mum)

Rahul (Kntk)

Sai (TN)

Gill (Pun)

Karun (Kntk/Vid)

Pant (Delhi)

Jadeja (Sau)

Washi (TN)

 

Of those, only Vid and maybe Mum have been at the top in the last 5-6 yrs. I think there is also an element of intuitive rather than systematic data-based selection strategy. Like Sai - picked based on potential and eye-test. Will it work out? Only time will tell. 

 

 

[tapandrun]

16 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Or ones perceived to be in the top 4-5 domestic teams, thanks to history

 

Jaiswal (Mum)

Rahul (Kntk)

Sai (TN)

Gill (Pun)

Karun (Kntk/Vid)

Pant (Delhi)

Jadeja (Sau)

Washi (TN)

 

Of those, only Vid and maybe Mum have been at the top in the last 5-6 yrs. I think there is also an element of intuitive rather than systematic data-based selection strategy. Like Sai - picked based on potential and eye-test. Will it work out? Only time will tell. 

 

 

 

How test selections for batters works in most of teams (including Aus.)

;selectors wants to pick a batter early if they are doing good. So to give 2-3 years of development time along side senior batter. Learn how to score in test, tempo and construct an innings , learn the art of batting. This is because of diff. condition (hot/cold/windly ect), pitch conditions, and different team.

 

For Odis and t20i, wkts all over are same good for batting generally 

 

Figuring out test batting takes time. So to give early start, players are picked early. So in Ind the problem is apart from major centres there is no media presence so 2 players of same age at level of game and skill are treated differently. For some1 from big centre you will start hearing the names but for other from smaller centre you wont even know. So a player frm major centre is picked early for Ind side.

 

And then the other player will have to work hard and as usual will have couple of bat season and be forgotten till they resurge with some good performance but by then they are 27-28 ?? As a selector would you like make a call give this guys 2 years to work -out batting at intnl level if they do not do good in 1st few games.

 

This was karun's situation even though he is from a big centre and as Agarkar rightly said they can not give another series or two to him

 

 

Edited October 1, 2025 by tapandrun

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55 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

 

How test selections for batters works in most of teams (including Aus.)

;selectors wants to pick a batter early if they are doing good. So to give 2-3 years of development time along side senior batter. Learn how to score in test, tempo and construct an innings , learn the art of batting. This is because of diff. condition (hot/cold/windly ect), pitch conditions, and different team.

 

For Odis and t20i, wkts all over are same good for batting generally 

 

Figuring out test batting takes time. So to give early start, players are picked early. So in Ind the problem is apart from major centres there is no media presence so 2 players of same age at level of game and skill are treated differently. For some1 from big centre you will start hearing the names but for other from smaller centre you wont even know. So a player frm major centre is picked early for Ind side.

 

And then the other player will have to work hard and as usual will have couple of bat season and be forgotten till they resurge with some good performance but by then they are 27-28 ?? As a selector would you like make a call give this guys 2 years to work -out batting at intnl level if they do not do good in 1st few games.

 

This was karun's situation even though he is from a big centre and as Agarkar rightly said they can not give another series or two to him

 

 

Or IPL exposure of the right kind. Sai emerged not from TN cricket but from IPL. But being in the top-order gave him some advantages that a "finisher" does not get. 

[tapandrun]

7 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Or IPL exposure of the right kind. Sai emerged not from TN cricket but from IPL. But being in the top-order gave him some advantages that a "finisher" does not get. 

plus he is from tn got picked early, same thing with padikal. there are many batters at same level as they are but not from major centre

[Lord]

Its mostly in the Plate league though

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9 minutes ago, Lord said:

Its mostly in the Plate league though

Oh ... Didn't realize that. I thought UP is usually in the elite league. That changes things. 

[tapandrun]

1 hour ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Oh ... Didn't realize that. I thought UP is usually in the elite league. That changes things. 

There are only 6 teams in plate group 

[diga]

gone are the days when only average used to matter... Selectors are making small efforts to see if players can score runs in tough conditions and versus good bowlers.

 

IPL helps somewhat for the second criterion . Even Rinku would not have come into limelight if not for IPL

[ShoonyaSifar]

Always look beyond the numbers. Rinku had a great start to his FC career, averages 100+ in two seasons but has tapered off massively since his T20 career started to flourish. No FC 100s in last two seasons. In fact has 2 FC 100s in last 30 FC matches.

 

Till last season he was in FC squads. Played for India A last January during England Lions tour. His scores were 0, 38, 0 across two unofficial tests which our A side won. Later in the year, though not named originally in the Four squads for Duleep Trophy, he did come in as replacement in India B, but scored 6. Needs to start scoring big runs in FC cricket again to be in contention with so much talent going around. 

[Prabhdeep Singh]

Tilak Verma should also be looked at in test cricket, averages over 50 in 1st class, scored 100’s in county also.

[rkt.india]

7 hours ago, Lord said:

Its mostly in the Plate league though

Up isn't a plate league team.

[BacktoCricaddict]

This guy should be our #3. He is currently batting on 98, single-handedly keeping his team alive in a Ranji Trophy match. Clutch.  And his stats as of today (and will only improve after this match is completed):  

51

matches, 73 innings,

12 n.o.,

3501 runs,

165*

HS,  57.39 average,

70.55 SR,.

8 100s,

22

50s

[Sgattick10]

How is Pradosh Ranjan Paul he is quite good as well 

[putrevus]

On 10/1/2025 at 2:21 PM, Gollum said:

Sadly, Rinku has been typecast as a T20I finisher. Even in IPL, KKR rarely sends him at the top or even middle overs. 

Why is Rinku Singh not being considered for test batting spot .He has better stats than Sai, Sundar, Jurel and Nair.He can hit long ball if needed if he is batting with tail.