Harshit rana fan club

[ungboysj]

This guy is a raw diamond and Gambhir is polishing him well

 

Tall.                 Tick

Young.           Tick

Strong.            Tick

No injuries.     Tick

Fast.                Tick

Can bat.         Tick

Wicket taker.   Tick

Delhitie.          Tick (All our big white ball winners have been from Delhi Mumbai Punjab)

 

 

He is going to make it and win us important trophies and test series 

 

All supporter unite here

 

 

 

 

 

[goose]

Belly     Tick

[putrevus]

Trundler  Tick

[express bowling]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

Trundler  Tick

 

Has crossed 150 kph in T20Is.

 

Has crossed 144 kph in every 4 day / 5 day match he has played in the last 2 years under speed guns. 

 

Averaged 138 kph+ in both the red ball Duleep Trophy matches he played last year.

Edited October 29 by express bowling

[express bowling]

The most dominating cricket teams in tests and ODIs, in the last 50 years, have used lots tall, hit the deck pacers.

 

Harshit is one such pacer plus he can bowl 140 k+ and is a genuine wicket taker. 

 

Full support to the 23 year old kid.  May he become the pace bowler who can bat at 8.

 

All the best !

 

 

[express bowling]

Harshit and every young quick pacer we have, need to practice the top of off stump directed delivery a lot. Bowl it at full pace with accuracy and zip off the deck. 

 

And play as many FC matches as he can. Develop his body for bowling 20 overs a day with accuracy and pace.

[putrevus]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

Has crossed 150 kph in T20Is.

 

Has crossed 144 kph in every 4 day / 5 day match he has played in the last 2 years under speed guns. 

Crossing once  144 does not make him express bowler. Majority of time he bowls in low 130s and under 130s. 

 

He cannot sustain speeds even for 10 overs forget test matches.He is fat and unfit.

Edited October 29 by putrevus

[express bowling]

14 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Crossing once  144 does not making express bowler. Majority of time he bowls in low 130s and under 130s. 

 

He cannot sustain speeds even for 10 overs forget test matches.He is fat and unfit.

 

You are quoting his speeds when he had severe cramps in the 2nd ODI and could barely bowl.

 

He bowls 132 kph to 146 kph even in red ball cricket. Was averaging 138 kph + in the 1st innings of both the 5 day Duleep Trophy matches televised a year back.

 

In the 3 Test innings he bowled, he bowled lots of 140 k to 145 k balls in all 3 innings. 

 

His issue is losing accuracy and bowling some slower spells in the 2nd innings of red ball matches. And this can be rectified only by playing lots of 4 day matches, which is not happening.

Edited October 29 by express bowling

[putrevus]

13 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

You are quoting his speeds when he had severe cramps in the 2nd ODI and could barely bowl.

 

He bowls 132 kph to 146 kph even in red ball cricket. Was averaging 138 kph + in the 1st innings of both the 5 day Duleep Trophy matches televised a year back.

 

In the 3 Test innings he bowled, he bowled lots of 140 k to 145 k balls in all 3 innings. 

 

His issue is losing accuracy and bowling some slower spells in the 2nd innings of red ball matches. And this can be rectified only by playing lots of 4 day matches, which is not happening.

I wish him all the best, but he has been anything but impressive so far in his career, I was impressed once he took a wicket bowling round the wicket to a LHB in Perth.That was last time he was impressive to me.

 

Big red flag is his big tummy which he carries even after being around Indian team for more than a year.No excuse for a guy that young to be that fat.

[tapandrun]

57 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Harshit and every young quick pacer we have, need to practice the top of off stump directed delivery a lot. Bowl it at full pace with accuracy and zip off the deck. 

 

And play as many FC matches as he can. Develop his body for bowling 20 overs a day with accuracy and pace.

FC is not an option, they are not going to get game there. Gurnoor is nt playing for pnj. and whoever bowls with pace goes for runs.

There is 0 incentive for a coach or captain to develop a player and a fast bowler and lose a match. Trundlers ensure no leakage of runs and pocky ind batters keeps pocking to wk or slips.

 

Ind fast bowlers need full development cycle of 3-4 in a camp to bowl in open nets, match like situation and for days. 15-20 over a day for 2 days then 1 day off then agin 30 over for next 2 days. 

[putrevus]

6 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

FC is not an option, they are not going to get game there. Gurnoor is nt playing for pnj. and whoever bowls with pace goes for runs.

There is 0 incentive for a coach or captain to develop a player and a fast bowler and lose a match. Trundlers ensure no leakage of runs and pocky ind batters keeps pocking to wk or slips.

 

Ind fast bowlers need full development cycle of 3-4 in a camp to bowl in open nets, match like situation and for days. 15-20 over a day for 2 days then 1 day off then agin 30 over for next 2 days. 

There is no rule fast bowlers should not be accurate. Any captain will want wicket taking bowlers in their side.

 

Guy like Harshit should aim to play FC cricket any chance he gets and selectors also have to let him develop by asking him to play FC cricket.

 

Asking any young fast bowler to turn up and bowl 20 overs per day on away tours without having any FC cricket behind them is also not correct. You cannot blame young bowlers if they are not allowed to develop.

 

I still don't know what is his stock delivery, he seems to be in love with his slower deliveries.

Edited October 29 by putrevus

[tapandrun]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

There is no rule fast bowlers should not be accurate. Any captain will want wicket taking bowlers in their side.

 

Guy like Harshit should aim to play FC cricket any chance he gets and selectors also have to let him develop by asking him to play FC cricket.

 

Asking any young fast bowler to turn up and bowl 20 overs per day on away tours without having any FC cricket behind them is also not correct. You cannot blame young bowlers if they are not allowed to develop.

 

I still don't know what is his stock delivery, he seems to be in love with his slower deliveries.

 

Not saying that he/whoever should not play not play FC, the issue with Ind faster bowlers in FC is that do not get game. They sit out most of the time.

And any game they play they go for runs. The reason is not jst bad bowling. The reason is edges does for 4s and sometimes those edges go past keepers and slips.

 

With trundlers edges does not go for 4s fielders have time to field it and chase it down. edges goes slips and wk for easy catches. 

Hence the captain or coaches plays such bowlers where they can control the run flow. 

In t20s and Od one can field a bowling line-up of all LA orthodox in domestics and can win games. Thats the reason why there are no leg-spinner or big turning leg-spinners.

 

Ind fast bowling resources are v.low, they need to have a focused program need to run centrally. Which means a nca driven program of picking (10-15) bowlers work on them for 3-4 months from everything bowling strength and conditioning skills, pace, accuracy.

 

Identify bowlers from Domestic with basic ingredients :: Tall, fast, Zippy and those who are not tall need to know how to bat or be express or near express bowlers. Ranji have been played since mid 1930 with no results wrt to pace bowling, need to change something , think out of box.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 29 by tapandrun

[putrevus]

44 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

 

Not saying that he/whoever should not play not play FC, the issue with Ind faster bowlers in FC is that do not get game. They sit out most of the time.

And any game they play they go for runs. The reason is not jst bad bowling. The reason is edges does for 4s and sometimes those edges go past keepers and slips.

 

With trundlers edges does not go for 4s fielders have time to field it and chase it down. edges goes slips and wk for easy catches. 

Hence the captain or coaches plays such bowlers where they can control the run flow. 

In t20s and Od one can field a bowling line-up of all LA orthodox in domestics and can win games. Thats the reason why there are no leg-spinner or big turning leg-spinners.

 

Ind fast bowling resources are v.low, they need to have a focused program need to run centrally. Which means a nca driven program of picking (10-15) bowlers work on them for 3-4 months from everything bowling strength and conditioning skills, pace, accuracy.

 

Identify bowlers from Domestic with basic ingredients :: Tall, fast, Zippy and those who are not tall need to know how to bat or be express or near express bowlers. Ranji have been played since mid 1930 with no results wrt to pace bowling, need to change something , think out of box.

 

 

 

 

That is where basic mindset has to change everywhere (selectors, coaches and captains), fast bowlers are the aces they win matches and they should be given little leeway when they are young.Pace cannot be compromised that should be the message and tell them to focus on getting wickets, everything will fall in place.

 

Fitness and pace are two things which they have to ask fast bowler never to compromise. That is why guy like Rana is disappointing, his fitness is lot to be desired, he can gain yard of pace by just becoming fitter.

Edited October 29 by putrevus

[Lord]

Fan of him since he got Head in Perth.

 

Should have played in England and we might have won. 

 

 

[tapandrun]

22 minutes ago, putrevus said:

That is where basic mindset has to change everywhere (selectors, coaches and captains), fast bowlers are the aces they win matches and they should be given little leeway when they are young.Pace cannot be compromised that should be the message and tell them to focus on getting wickets, everything will fall in place.

 

Fitness and pace are two things which they have to ask fast bowler never to compromise. That is why guy like Rana is disappointing, his fitness is lot to be desired, he can gain yard of pace by just becoming fitter.

Mind set can not be changed that's why need a centralized focused program. bcci can not tell domestic teams to select certain type of players.

 

Trundlers and LA orthodox ensures wins for domestic teams they will play them, again there is not incentive for developing a faster bowlers or a big-spinning bowler.

As for fitness if a fast bowler gets injured 2nd time the fit-all solution at domestic level is to drop pace. No domestic team want a player who needs doctor.

 

Just listen to the commentary of domestic games, any1 bowling fast is rubbished. 

Forget domestic commentary in IPL Mayank's 1st game, Ind commentators were talking anything and everything till some Aus commentator stoped him and started telling the mayank is bowling with same heat.

 

[bsriharsha]

Decent enough bowler plus can bat. 

 

Can be the fourth choice seamer. The fact that he's got the ability to hang around with the bat means that he can be used as a nightwatchman too if needed. 

[Gollum]

I wish him the best, high ceiling guy provided he can improve his fitness. But don't play him in all formats, yesterday I though Arshdeep should have been in the XI, he is as important as Bumrah for the T20 WC.  

[diga]

Bowlers like Harshit & Prasidh get more opportunities than say Anshul Kambojs of the world due to their pace & height.... Lets hope he justifies the faith imposed on him by GG

[singhvivek141]

Harshit has potential, and I wish that he is able to become better with experience. He is a fine addition to our ageing pace bowling unit. 

As he's a fast bowler, I'm 200% sure he will be butchered by the cricket analysts, experts, commentators and IPL fans whenever he will go for runs. Coz, that's the psyche we carry unfortunately. Every one expects that a fast bowler should have an economy of <3 and avg of <20, should be able to bowl every kinda deliveries at will. While the same criterias will be relaxed for a mid 30's, 125kph bowling, tired face trundler.
 

I really wish to see a pace attack of Mayank, Harshit, Bumrah and Gurnoor playing a test match in Australia and breaking the ribs and helmets of Auzzie batters. Hopefully, this wish may come true soon.

[bsriharsha]

Also note how **** Siraj was when he first had his first season in IPL. He then became better after playing regular cricket for India. Rana will be taken for runs too. Persisting with him is the key. Not everyone needs to be a Bumrah and get performances from the get go.