"We wanted them to grovel" - South African Coach Conrad

[nitinbwj]

Just now, MechEng said:

Shukri is trying hard to ragebait Indians so that they can at least put up a fight tomorrow.

Which is not going to happen. We will be 6-7 down in the first session itself. This team has had it with GG. 

[nitinbwj]

51 minutes ago, putrevus said:

They have made this SA team which is ordinary on their best days look like world class team.

They have been playing excellent cricket. Insane batting depth and good bowlers for every condition. Rabada didn't even play . They are led by Bavuma who walks the talk unless our princess. 

Edited November 25, 2025 by nitinbwj

[Tillu]

Bumrah of all people should have known better not to use a word like Bauna to the visiting team captain.

 

The SA coach knows he wouldn't be around the next time SA visits India, so he is talking without any filter.

[lemsip]

59 minutes ago, goose said:

this should cause uproar. a bit too close to the what tony greig (another south african) said in his playing days about the west indians

There is no comparison. Tony Greig's statement was  controversial at the time because it came from a white South African ( playing for England) who grew up there during apartheid and was aimed at a a team of black players. Apartheid was still the policy in SA when the statement was made.

The statement from the current SA coach is perfectly fine and they have earnt the right to bully and dominate the Indian players. There is nothing racist about the English word grovel. I wouldn't put it past GG to spin this into a controversy and let loose another dying for the country opus of a speech.

Edited November 25, 2025 by lemsip

[Tillu]

Now will our players shake the hands of SA players after being humiliated off the field as well.

[putrevus]

3 minutes ago, Tillu said:

Now will our players shake the hands of SA players after being humiliated off the field as well.

They will look like sore losers then.Not shaking hands with Pakistan is one thing but if they repeat that here, they should not be playing any sport.

Edited November 25, 2025 by putrevus

[Tillu]

3 minutes ago, putrevus said:

They will look like sore losers then.Not shaking hands with Pakistan is one thing but if they repeat that here, they should not be playing any sport.

 

You never know with this coach. He will try to find wins in the least unexpected of places.

[Tillu]

Does this guy coach any of the SA20 teams. If this blows up, he may not find a job with any of the SA20 teams which has majority Indian owners.

Edited November 25, 2025 by Tillu

[goose]

22 minutes ago, lemsip said:

There is no comparison. Tony Greig's statement was  controversial at the time because it came from a white South African ( playing for England) who grew up there during apartheid and was aimed at a a team of black players. Apartheid was still the policy in SA when the statement was made.

The statement from the current SA coach is perfectly fine and they have earnt the right to bully and dominate the Indian players. There is nothing racist about the English word grovel. I wouldn't put it past GG to spin this into a controversy and let loose another dying for the country opus of a speech.

 

the remark isn't a problem in of itself and had it been said without the tony greig precedent it wouldn't have raised any eyebrows. but that famous precedent is there and he knew what he was doing. anytime anyone says 'grovel' in cricket you are invoking that peice of history. the connotations are undeniable. personally i dont give a toss. 

[Lone Wolf]

Shukri W... Cook this fraud team and l@wde ka nationalist coach.

[lemsip]

2 minutes ago, goose said:

the remark isn't a problem in of itself and had it been said without the tony greig precedent it wouldn't have raised any eyebrows. but that famous precedent is there and he knew what he was doing. anytime anyone says 'grovel' in cricket you are invoking that peice of history. the connotations are undeniable. personally i dont give a toss. 

Yes but as I explained the controversy was not related to the word grovel but the specific circumstances at the time - apartheid south african captain talking down a team with black players.

People use the word freely in conversation everywhere. In fact the "bauna" reference was more crude and disrespectful than this. Either way it shouldn't detract attention from the real issue - India have been well and truly humbled on their own soil by yet another visiting side.

 

[Gollum]

He is an outspoken guy. Best way to respond to such taunts is if we learn from this, improve and form a world beating side in the near future. 

[Gollum]

Context of Tony Greig's comment was very different. South African born white guy during apartheid times telling that about people who had endured slavery at the hands of white men for centuries, and even UK was in turmoil when it came to relations between white people and immigrants from Carribean islands around that time. 

 

Stupid comment but don't think it was meant in a racist way. In fact Bumrah's 'bauna' comment was also bad because of who it was directed towards, there are pygmy tribes in Africa who are very short. 

 

Hope both teams shake hands on good terms tomorrow, series has been played in sporting spirit and RSA players have been very humble and muted despite their overwhelming dominance. 

Edited November 25, 2025 by Gollum

[Lone Wolf]

18 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Context of Tony Greig's comment was very different. South African born white guy during apartheid times telling that about people who had endured slavery at the hands of white men for centuries, and even UK was in turmoil when it came to relations between white people and immigrants from Carribean islands around that time. 

 

Stupid comment but don't think it was meant in a racist way. In fact Bumrah's 'bauna' comment was also bad because of who it was directed towards, there are pygmy tribes in Africa who are very short. 

 

Hope both teams shake hands on good terms tomorrow, series has been played in sporting spirit and RSA players have been very humble and muted despite their overwhelming dominance. 

GG tomorrow 

 

[Gollum]

[Lord]

Hope this has the same effect as it had on WI 

 

But inko kuch sharam haya nahi hai

[maniac]

Good: we need every team to come to India with that attitude. No complaints. Well done  you made us grovel.

[Lord]

SA coach is a no name guy. GG is celebrity coach hyped too much before he took over.

 

Result is clear

[Lord]

54 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Context of Tony Greig's comment was very different. South African born white guy during apartheid times telling that about people who had endured slavery at the hands of white men for centuries, and even UK was in turmoil when it came to relations between white people and immigrants from Carribean islands around that time. 

 

Stupid comment but don't think it was meant in a racist way. In fact Bumrah's 'bauna' comment was also bad because of who it was directed towards, there are pygmy tribes in Africa who are very short. 

 

Hope both teams shake hands on good terms tomorrow, series has been played in sporting spirit and RSA players have been very humble and muted despite their overwhelming dominance. 

 

Bumrah said in Hindi which should be okay. I don't think he meant it in offensive way. Was mentioning his height for lbw

[maniac]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

SA coach is a no name guy. GG is celebrity coach hyped too much before he took over.

 

Result is clear

3-4 years ago we thought SA cricket was cooked due to quota system and was the next Zimbabwe.fast forward ahead- they are WTC champs, played WT20 final, reached WC and CT semifinals, drew test series in Pak, won test  series in India, have a bench that they can be proud about.

 

he has earned the bragging rights.