Missing Virat Kohli : We know the sun’s worth only in its absence

[rangeelaraja]

He would have brilliantly anchored the SA target - has done it countless times. 

 

We have no one even remotely as good as him in our ranks.

[vvvslaxman]

After orchestrating two very good chases  by Tilak i thought he would take over. But he is extremely limited because of these things happen.  SKY and Tilak are the supposed anchors. Poor today . Both. 

[rangeelaraja]

21 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

After orchestrating two very good chases  by Tilak i thought he would take over. But he is extremely limited because of these things happen.  SKY and Tilak are the supposed anchors. Poor today . Both. 

 

 

SKY is past his peak by a long shot. Tilak has been very inconsistent. 

[vvvslaxman]

5 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

 

SKY is past his peak by a long shot. Tilak has been very inconsistent. 

I think RUturaj and Iyer should have been part of the set up. These guys went for pure six hitters and they are found wanting on tricky surfaces.

[maniac]

Just now, vvvslaxman said:

I think RUturaj and Iyer should have been part of the set up. These guys went for pure six hitters and they are found wanting on tricky surfaces.

Gotta say though op is right. Virat made chasing look too easy. Some of our greatest chases have been thanks to him across all

formats. There is too much evidence for it to be a one off thing.

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, maniac said:

Gotta say though op is right. Virat made chasing look too easy. Some of our greatest chases have been thanks to him across all

formats. There is too much evidence for it to be a one off thing.

Because he could manipulate field and take singles let the opposition down their guard and try something else. 

[rangeelaraja]

6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

I think RUturaj and Iyer should have been part of the set up. These guys went for pure six hitters and they are found wanting on tricky surfaces.

 

Its hard to say. I always feel, we see the grass as greener on the other side when the batters are collectively out of form. 

 

Abhishek's form has derailed the entire team.  As opener you are supposed to set the tone for the team in 6 power play overs. 

 

His ducks and low scores have put score board pressure on others. 

 

I genuinely feel under Gambhir we are an extremely weak team mentally and just don't know a come back strategy.

 

The biggest proof is getting whitewashed and humiliated at home after a decade - by both Kiwis and SA.

 

Did we learn anythign from the initial loss ? Nothing we just continued making the same mistakes.

 

So even if we enter the semis by fluke - we will not have an answer to SA if we face them again. But it isnt going to happen because we will get kicked out much sooner.

[Ravi_Shastri]

Stop insulting the GOAT by calling him the anchor.

VK was the stabiliser, the fastener and the linchpin 

the greatest indian batter of all time after Sachin

[Ultimate_Game]

2 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

 

SKY is past his peak by a long shot. Tilak has been very inconsistent. 

 

When did he reach his "peak"? I only recall Miller's catch as his defining moment. Rest all his performances came in meaningless bilaterals against 2nd XI bowlers.

[cricketfan28]

Shreyas ..

[kosingh]

3 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

He would have brilliantly anchored the SA target - has done it countless times. 

 

We have no one even remotely as good as him in our ranks.

 

Yes, but batting 1st he would anchor the total to 170-180, which is not enough. 

 

Still, we could have used him in this WC. And the test team. 

[Ultimate_Game]

Kohli's target range was from 150-170. Doubt he makes a difference today. His two greatest T20 knocks came while chasing a target in 150s (2016 WT20 against Aus and 2022 WT20 against Pak).

 

A peak Kohli (2104 - 2018) would walk into any T20 team but you can't go back in time. Else we would've a peak Raina in there as as well to hammer these part-time spinners whom none of our batters can deal with.

Edited February 23 by Ultimate_Game

[BacktoCricaddict]

 

39 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Kohli's target range was from 150-170. Doubt he makes a difference today. A peak Kohli (2104 - 2018) would walk into any T20 team but you can't go back in time. Else we would've a peak Raina in there as as well to hammer these part-time spinners whom none of our batters can deal with.

They should have picked Sehwag instead of these openers. As recently as 2003, he demolished every bowler he faced. 

[Lord]

1 hour ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

 

They should have picked Sehwag instead of these openers. As recently as 2003, he demolished every bowler he faced. 

Need to back the experience of Srikkanth maybe

[Number]

Kohli is arguably GOAT of this format but it's the team that wins. We sucked in ICC pressure games even with him for one full decade. 

[Gollum]

[New guy]

7 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

He would have brilliantly anchored the SA target - has done it countless times. 

 

We have no one even remotely as good as him in our ranks.

Missing Sachin, you know india never have lost a world cup match to pakistan when Sachin was there.

 

Indians are the only ones who attack youngsters while licking asses of seniors, even those who have retired.

 

Aussies never had this mentality which is why they won a million cups instead of hero worshipping individuals.

[New guy]

6 hours ago, maniac said:

Gotta say though op is right. Virat made chasing look too easy. Some of our greatest chases have been thanks to him across all

formats. There is too much evidence for it to be a one off thing.

So how many 180+ scores has he chased and made look easy?

[rangeelaraja]

6 minutes ago, New guy said:

Missing Sachin, you know india never have lost a world cup match to pakistan when Sachin was there.

 

Indians are the only ones who attack youngsters while licking asses of seniors, even those who have retired.

 

Aussies never had this mentality which is why they won a million cups instead of hero worshipping individuals.

 

 

TMKC

Edited February 23 by rangeelaraja

[Gollum]

20 minutes ago, New guy said:

Missing Sachin, you know india never have lost a world cup match to pakistan when Sachin was there.

 

Indians are the only ones who attack youngsters while licking asses of seniors, even those who have retired.

 

Aussies never had this mentality which is why they won a million cups instead of hero worshipping individuals.

It isn't about hating youngsters. 

 

It is about giving Kohli his due. He was mocked/trolled a lot in last few years. Even by experts, likes of Sanju and Bhogle made public spectacles of his SR. Somehow people have forgotten how great he was in T20s. 

 

Carries over to ODIs as well. Just observe the last 3 series (Aus, RSA, NZ), so many questions about his future, likes of GG and Agarkar adding fuel to the fire about his place in the side. Definitely agenda pieces to kick him down. Guy has retired from tests, and T20s, lives a peaceful lfe in London with his wife, turns up for List A in India, kicks ass in ODIs. This kind of hounding and questioning his intent/neeyat is a very vile media campaign. 

Edited February 23 by Gollum