Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Ankit_sharma03]

15 hours ago, Chakdephatte said:

 

What exactly is not hit-and-miss in T20 cricket. Do you have any safer option.

nothing , margin of error is so limited . 

@MultiB48 is right yorkers with yorkers its even more , if your execution isnt spot . Batsman is standing deep in crease now, if it doesnt land right its either slot ball or full toss and even if u land it right a lot of times inside edge takes it to 4 . Which is why see bowlers at times going for different option as slight bit of error and it wud be smashed 

 

Naseer hussain spoke it few years ago 

Also do find mahela interview regd kohli hobar knock where he talks about how malinga execution was good but yet he kept getting smashed

 

Its very harsh on bowlers now , earlier margin of error was high with yorkers now its minimal  

 

 

[Nikhil_cric]

59 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

nothing , margin of error is so limited . 

@MultiB48 is right yorkers with yorkers its even more , if your execution isnt spot . Batsman is standing deep in crease now, if it doesnt land right its either slot ball or full toss and even if u land it right a lot of times inside edge takes it to 4 . Which is why see bowlers at times going for different option as slight bit of error and it wud be smashed 

 

Naseer hussain spoke it few years ago 

Also do find mahela interview regd kohli hobar knock where he talks about how malinga execution was good but yet he kept getting smashed

 

Its very harsh on bowlers now , earlier margin of error was high with yorkers now its minimal  

 

 

This. Unless you're an exceptionally good yorker exponent bowling with high pace and with long straight boundaries on a particular ground, it's always better to go hard length at high pace or cutters into the wicket.  

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

6 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

This. Unless you're an exceptionally good yorker exponent bowling with high pace and with long straight boundaries on a particular ground, it's always better to go hard length at high pace or cutters into the wicket.  

 

 

High pace hard length is a good way but works mostly against the likes of pollard-pandya-russell types , do that against kohli-butler-abdv-KL-rohit they ll hit u badly . 

Even if ur great with yorkers at the end ur execution on the day matters. Starc last few yeRs have been a downfall as his execution of yorkers has gone down. 

Cutter slower ones have been successfull around the world mostly as it doesnt give batsman pace to play with and mostly it beats the timing of a batsman , then again bowl it in wrong slot it wont be spared 

 

Kuch bhi safe nahin , better bowl to weakness of batsman . Then also set kohli-butler-rohit-abdv wont even have that , may be leg spin against indian duo

[Chakdephatte]

 

The highlights. @MultiB48, @rkt.india,

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, Chakdephatte said:

 

The highlights. @MultiB48, @rkt.india,

 

2nd and 4th ball, if he gets more consistent at it..........he ll get lot of wks at death 

Really running in well here as oppose to ireland series. 

[Vk1]

seeing all these economy rates and innovate shots makes me feel that bowlers should aim to bowl and set fields for 4/5 singles in an over.. no dot balls no wickets just aim to give singles in last two overs.. if this works TM might appreciate a guy who consistently gives singles in last over than a guy who picks 1 or 2 cheap wickets but ends up going for 15+ on bad days

[vishalvirsingh]

36 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said:

 

The highlights. @MultiB48, @rkt.india,

 

Terror , Bounce & Speed - All in his bowling.

 

Terror of hitting the batsman, Batsman is leaving the Stumps and bowler gets a Clear straight view to hit the Stumps- easy for Umran to hit.

Bounce- I guess he is 5 11" , still he is getting so much bounce on a flat patta wicket in India- how much bounce will he generate in Australia.

Speed- He is bowling @150 K on Indian SMAT Pitches , he will touch 161 on Aussie Pitches.

 

Vengsarkar knows how much value he brings, Brett Lee knows too, Wasim akram is also feeling good that he is not going. 

 

Our Selection committee has erred in not picking him in 15 or at least in Back Up for World Cup team. I understand He and Kuldeep Sen are still in India enjoying Paratha's where as they are required in Australia now. why cant they listen to Vengsarkar. 

 

Has Siraj gone to Australia?

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

1st over

[Vk1]

Initially Umran Mallik is likely to have good days in 3/4 out of 10 games.. with time it will improve to 4/5 or may be even 6/10 if he really improves.. our guys won't have that much patience and they will drop him

Edited October 18, 2022 by Vk1

[singhvivek141]

11 hours ago, Chakdephatte said:

 

The highlights. @MultiB48, @rkt.india,

 

No matter what he does, our Chota Chetan and co will still prefer "24 Slow balls patel", "Awfulesh Khan" and "knuckle kumar" because fast bowlers are inaccurate and leak runs.
 

[Vk1]

17 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

Initially Umran Mallik is likely to have good days in 3/4 out of 10 games.. with time it will improve to 4/5 or may be even 6/10 if he really improves.. our guys won't have that much patience and they will drop him

 

this is how Umesh Yadav, Ishant Sharma developed in tests

[singhvivek141]

14 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

Initially Umran Mallik is likely to have good days in 3/4 out of 10 games.. with time it will improve to 4/5 or may be even 6/10 if he really improves.. our guys won't have that much patience and they will drop him

Exactly, even Brett Lee had his off days where we went for runs. But on his days he was a run-away match winner.
But our TM is too scared to give him opportunity and prefers to go with slow bowlers who can't even win matches on their good days.

[express bowling]

Kartik Tyagi

 

2  for  27  from  4 overs

 

Wickets + Low ER 

 

 

[Chakdephatte]

50 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

No matter what he does, our Chota Chetan and co will still prefer "24 Slow balls patel", "Awfulesh Khan" and "knuckle kumar" because fast bowlers are inaccurate and leak runs.

 

No one said these words. Don't just assume things.

[Suhaan]

Arjun bowls according to conditions/surfaces

Seen him trying to swing as much as he could on earlier on and later in his spells bends his back

 

[SRT100]

1 minute ago, Suhaan said:

Arjun bowls according to conditions/surfaces

Seen him trying to swing as much as he could on earlier on and later in his spells bends his back

 

 

I dont mind being guilty here in saying I really want Arjun to succeed and play for India and to also do well.

[singhvivek141]

36 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said:

 

No one said these words. Don't just assume things.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/news-ind-vs-eng-2022-most-overrated-bowler-current-times-fans-slam-umran-malik-jadeja-leaking-runs-3rd-t20i
https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/may-leak-runs-if-virender-sehwag-has-this-take-on-umran-maliks-fast-bowling-3004300

These details came in 30 seconds of search on Google, lot of things has been said on this forum as well which I am not interested to pin point.

[singhvivek141]

58 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Kartik Tyagi

2  for  27  from  4 overs

Wickets + Low ER 

Probably the most exciting talent amongst all fast bowlers. A complete fast bowler IMO.

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said:

Probably the most exciting talent amongst all fast bowlers. A complete fast bowler IMO.

 

 

I agree strongly.

 

Tyagi is a complete fast bowler with 90 mph+ pace, 6'2" height, bounce  aggression, yorkers, wide yorkers, bouncers, swing, seam movement, slower balls and slower ball bouncers.

 

Plus he is just 21.

 

The only area where he needs work is improving his stock delivery. 

 

He should be developed ASAP and with specisl care by the BCCI. Should get every opportunity to play actusl games.

 

I am worried that his IPL franchise won't be able to play him much because of Bhuvi  Natarajan, Umran and Jansen as first choices. 

 

Maybe he should think about shifting franchise if possible.

 

 

Edited October 18, 2022 by express bowling

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

Arjun bowls according to conditions/surfaces

Seen him trying to swing as much as he could on earlier on and later in his spells bends his back

 

 

Arjun probably has really good game awareness. Bowls very apt deliveries for the situation.

Edited October 18, 2022 by express bowling