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When India bowled, I was extremely disappointed to see Umesh not opening the bowling. That really was a horrible move. Enough to destroy the confidence of your "Fast" bowler. With due respect, Bhuvi is not "Fast"!

Ashwin as a lone spinner would have worked too. As such none of our spinners have done well in Aus pitches to win us games.

also wen umesh came to bowl he was not given any slips 

Wat ru telling ur wkt taking bowler not to go for wkts

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also wen umesh came to bowl he was not given any slips 

Wat ru telling ur wkt taking bowler not to go for wkts

Dhoni never favoured Umesh. I don't what problem he has with him and Varun Aaron. We can see that Umesh and Ishant are bowling with a lot more purpose under Kohli in tests. A startling difference it makes to the bowlers when the captain believes in them. Dhono doesn't. Worse, even the people he reposes faith in are letting him down, but he doesn't seem to care.

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When India bowled, I was extremely disappointed to see Umesh not opening the bowling. That really was a horrible move. Enough to destroy the confidence of your "Fast" bowler. With due respect, Bhuvi is not "Fast"!

Ashwin as a lone spinner would have worked too. As such none of our spinners have done well in Aus pitches to win us games.

It is not about Umesh. It is about Dhoni's rigid mindset..

Bhuvi is expected to open the bowling and swing the ball... Irrespective of what the conditions are.

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It is not about Umesh. It is about Dhoni's rigid mindset..

Bhuvi is expected to open the bowling and swing the ball... Irrespective of what the conditions are.

As Ashish Chopra said, Bhuvi has picked 5 wickets in his last 109 overs! I don't know in which national team he will get to play in the world!

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the most disappointing thing was Umesh. He bowled so defensively. No fire, no pace. We need an aggressive Umesh at least in Aus, bowling quick 145+ and trying to take wickets.

 

 

 

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the most disappointing thing was Umesh. He bowled so defensively. No fire, no pace. We need an aggressive Umesh at least in Aus, bowling quick 145+ and trying to take wickets.

 

 

 

Not going to happen. We can clearly see Umesh was bowling well within himself. Not running in hard. Trying to be more accurate, which is a good thing but Umesh's role in the side is to bowl fast and try to take wickets even if he goes for a few runs. He maybe worried that if he goes for a few runs he will dropped from the playing 11. Its the captains job to give them that confidence and freedom to go out there and bowl fast and try to pick wickets. But Dhoni has already said many times he wants accurate bowlers rather than those who bowl fast. 

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Even Harsha Bhogle was saying in commentary that Kohli likes fast bowlers like Umesh, Ishant , Shami etc. ( left out Aaron )...but Dhoni loves medium pacers.

I felt that Umesh Yadav's role, defined by the team management yesterday, was defensive...brought in one change, no slips given, removed after 3 good overs etc.

The key to winning even ODIs is taking wickets at regular intervals...BK has not been a wicket taker in any format unless the ball is swinging...spinners were not expected to take wickets in Perth....as there was very little swing or seam movement, the only thing that was working was pace and bounce..Umesh could have used it but it was probably not in the team management's plan.

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Injuries to Shami and Ishant have made our bowling attack very ineffective for Australia...we are lacking pace and bounce apart from Umesh.

Should have brought in a couple among Aaron, Bumrah and Pandya to cover for the injuries.

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Difficult to see Aaron in ODI team till Dhoni is there. We are wasting someone who could become a valuable asset for us.

Under Kohli....Umesh, Ishant and Aaron could become useful ODi bowlers...

Shami already is very good in ODIs.

Bumrah and Pandya would round up the ODI pacers list for me at the moment....

There would be enough choices for injury management and pacer  rotation.

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One very telling thing is, whenever we play under Dhoni, when the fast bowling thread is bumped, it is usually negative comments and we find the bowling performance is bad. When we play under Kohli when the same thread is bumped, we find that we are very excited about the bowling and some bowlers stand out. That alone shows the difference in approach

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As if he knows how to use spinners in overseas. 

HE shows no faith in them also

Ashwin before this match was the no 1 spinner

Ne he opens the bowling with no slip

So wat ru telling worlds best spinner is gonna ball not to take wkts

 

I found this very intersting interview. pointing out dhoni use os ashwin in 2011 aus tour

Were dhoni was asked to bowl defensively, n ashwin even said in press confernece tht was my role

N i rem he started bowling in aus round the wkt n also in 1st test against sa in 2013

 

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:hysterical: That joker in the video...

Can someone tell him 2007 WC was in SA that we won and 2013 CT was in England 

:facepalm:

in 2007 wc he absolutely showed faith in bowlers

He has a wayward bowler called sreesanth that time. 

N Ct2013 pitches turned square 

N wen pitch turn we all know dhoni rules

Jadeja took 22 wkts

But u wnt get turning pitches every were.

 

 

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more than 2 spinners, it was the field placing that lost us the match. No slips when fast bowlers are starting, no slip for spinners, easy singles any time. Only if he had choked the singles, keep a few areas open in the deep so the batsmen have to take risks, it would not have been easy for ozzies.

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