Muloghonto Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Anderson, to me, is quite literally an Angus Fraser with slightly less pace and slightly more seam, with 5x the longevity. There is a big difference between an ATG who happens to be a 2-decade career vs a good player with super longevity. Anderson is a good bowler.But on conditions that doesnt help him, he just keeps it tight , even at his peak and hope the batsmen make mistakes. Nothing wrong with it, but has been largely ineffective, to sometimes annihilated overseas. sandeep 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Anderson, to me, is quite literally an Angus Fraser with slightly less pace and slightly more seam, with 5x the longevity. There is a big difference between an ATG who happens to be a 2-decade career vs a good player with super longevity. Anderson is a good bowler.But on conditions that doesnt help him, he just keeps it tight , even at his peak and hope the batsmen make mistakes. Nothing wrong with it, but has been largely ineffective, to sometimes annihilated overseas. Angus Fraser was quicker than Andu? you must be kidding. Link to comment
SUMO Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 hope kohli in 2016 tears apart trundling clouderson wish that to be his last series sandeep 1 Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 27 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Angus Fraser was quicker than Andu? you must be kidding. by pace, i don't just mean lateral speed only. Dear ol Fraser had a far meaner bouncer than our Andu and had a better ability to 'push batsmen on the back-foot'. Just that his deviations didnt work as well as Andu, so it evens out a bit. Look, i will make a simple analogy : Anderson is like a bowling version of Azharuddin- good, but not quite great coz he has too many flaws in his armoury to succeed in all but favorable conditions. But guy has fight (joshila, just like Azhar) and will sometimes conjure himself a memorable performance or two against all odds just enough to remind everyone of his glimpses of greatness. Link to comment
Soorma_Bhopali Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Saw the verdct interview.Media has totally twisted Anderson's statement . He praised him that he played very well and was patient.This comment was to say that any technical deficiencies, if they are there, are taken out by the pitches here. Link to comment
Mystique_Myth Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 12 minutes ago, Soorma_Bhopali said: Saw the verdct interview.Media has totally twisted Anderson's statement . He praised him that he played very well and was patient.This comment was to say that any technical deficiencies, if they are there, are taken out by the pitches here. The media hasn't twisted anything and it was not the verdict interview that was reported. It was the post day press conference. He did said that Kohli didn't made any changes into his batting and it was the pitch that helped him which was not entirely true. https://streamable.com/lq2l sandeep 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 Missed todays game, but watched the highlights. Anderson was given a proper bashing as soon as he walked into crease. Ashwin and Jaddu gave enough mouths to him. Link to comment
goose Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Jesus anyone see Jimmy shaking Ashwin's hand at the end there? It was just a thin cover for more verbals. Link to comment
puneet28 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Does somebody have verbal spat between Anderson and Kohli that happened today on field ? Link to comment
msplash9 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 1 hour ago, puneet28 said: Does somebody have verbal spat between Anderson and Kohli that happened today on field ? https://streamable.com/lq2l mishra and Mosher 2 Link to comment
mishra Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 ^ Anderson was bullied by Ashwin and Jaddu. Specially Ashwin Link to comment
puneet28 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, msplash9 said: https://streamable.com/lq2l Thank you! Link to comment
putrevus Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Anderson won Ashes in Australia, was excellent in UAE and India four years ago. To call him ordinary is wrong.No ordinary bowler takes 467 wickets. On side note for those who think Ian Botham was not better all rounder of all four all rounders need to see who has best figures on this ground and he scored 100 also in the same match. Vilander 1 Link to comment
falcons360 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 https://youtu.be/oL9HaKufsNA watch this video and see how kohli has changed his technique Link to comment
Vilander Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 1. It was a casual towels on the neck type post match. Not an interview with journos and an assembly. 2. You get as you give. What is the big deal just wack Anderson next over. Link to comment
Mosher Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 2 hours ago, mishra said: ^ Anderson was bullied by Ashwin and Jaddu. Specially Ashwin Good to see Ashwin and Jaddu sledging Anderson for those comments about Kohli. This is the sort of thing that happened when someone said something to the Aussies. This does not make for pretty viewing but I am happy that the team is sticking together and giving it back when needed. express bowling, Cricketics, adi B and 2 others 5 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, putrevus said: Anderson won Ashes in Australia, was excellent in UAE and India four years ago. To call him ordinary is wrong.No ordinary bowler takes 467 wickets. On side note for those who think Ian Botham was not better all rounder of all four all rounders need to see who has best figures on this ground and he scored 100 also in the same match. Sanjay manju mentioned that pitch had a lot more grass. And I meant Anderson is ordinary overseas. 149 wickets in 47 tests overseas at 35+. Regarding winning that Ashes, he just found conditions that suited him on that tour. Otherwise even ordinary bowlers like Sreesanth and Pathan have won us games overseas against good teams but they will still be called ordinary. Anderson is an HTB + GTB. Edited December 12, 2016 by rkt.india Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: Sanjay manju mentioned that pitch had a lot more grass. Which pitch had lot more grass??? you mean Mumbai 2012. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 6 hours ago, Muloghonto said: by pace, i don't just mean lateral speed only. Dear ol Fraser had a far meaner bouncer than our Andu and had a better ability to 'push batsmen on the back-foot'. Just that his deviations didnt work as well as Andu, so it evens out a bit. Look, i will make a simple analogy : Anderson is like a bowling version of Azharuddin- good, but not quite great coz he has too many flaws in his armoury to succeed in all but favorable conditions. But guy has fight (joshila, just like Azhar) and will sometimes conjure himself a memorable performance or two against all odds just enough to remind everyone of his glimpses of greatness. I saw Frazer in his late years and he was not quicker than the current Anderson by any stretch of imagination who himself is in his late years neither frazer had any good bouncer and Depended a lot on outswing. A peak Anderson was one of the quickest bowlers around. On our tour to England in 2007 was, he was consistently around 88-90 mph. Those were his peak years in terms of pace. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 14 minutes ago, putrevus said: Which pitch had lot more grass??? you mean Mumbai 2012. No, Botham match that you have mentioned where he got 10-fer. Link to comment
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