What was the point of Bhuveneshwar Kumar?Virat Kohli's Captaincy Blunder?Needs to learn a few tricks from Dhoni?

[Malcolm Merlyn]

So what was the point of Bhuvi Kumar in the team?Keeping Kuldeep and Jayant  out of the side?Bhuvi did nothing in the test match.He is a liablity when the pitch or the conditions dont have anything for swing bowling.He isnt fast enough neither can he reverse the ball.He has looked the worst of the 3 pacers here,

 

Mr.Kohli has tried to be oversmart and has been caught naked.May be he should learn and thing or two from Dhoni.

[rkt.india]

All hind sight. Pitch had some grass at the start and BD are weaker against pace.

[Pollack]

Just now, rkt.india said:

All hind sight. Pitch had some grass at the start and BD are weaker against pace.

This.

[Cricketics]

The problem is that all you guys become "OH why didn't we try this"

"why don't we have good seamers ever in our country"

..."why are we playing so negative"

And "why we don't have pace bowling culture here""

and bla bla 

 

And here is a captain who is trying to take an opportunity to use fast bowlers on a placid track so they learn better as clearly Bangladesh is an easier team to try this ploy aginst than Australia, and people are still blaming Kohli of playing a seamer for spinner.

 

Instead of appreciating, you are trying to kill a good thought. Kohli made a brilliant move by playing an extra seamer.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Sidhoni]

Developing some culture or crap like that is the reason that is going to be brought up in this thread.

 

Maybe it is more important to get in a pacer for the sake of it rather than getting in a better wicket taking option.

Edited February 12, 2017 by Sidhoni

[New guy]

17 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

So what was the point of Bhuvi Kumar in the team?Keeping Kuldeep and Jayant  out of the side?Bhuvi did nothing in the test match.He is a liablity when the pitch or the conditions dont have anything for swing bowling.He isnt fast enough neither can he reverse the ball.He has looked the worst of the 3 pacers here,

 

Mr.Kohli has tried to be oversmart and has been caught naked.May be he should learn and thing or two from Dhoni.

Let's ignore that seamers took the bulk of the wickets in first innings shall we? Let's ignore that kohli is focusing long term and building a team and seam attack for the future

 

lets only focus on the narrow minded spin dependent mentality which has never helped us develop an all round seam attack and made us **** overseas 

[New guy]

5 minutes ago, Sidhoni said:

Developing some culture or crap like that is the reason that is going to be brought up in this thread.

 

Maybe it is more important to get in a pacer for the sake of it rather than getting in a better wicket taking option.

It's surprising right that a captain is thinking long term development of pacers instead of "process" right ?

[Temujin Khaghan]

no good decision to give him some warmup now... because he will not get a chance to bowl in test cricket until later this year... because we will play the 3+2 combo against aus and that means only umesh and shami will bowl.. so no harm done in giving a chance to ishanth and bhuvi

 

i hope both of them bowl a lot in 1st class cricket before the gauntlet overseas series beings (sa-aus-eng-nz)

[Pollack]

8 minutes ago, Sidhoni said:

Developing some culture or crap like that is the reason that is going to be brought up in this thread.

 

Maybe it is more important to get in a pacer for the sake of it rather than getting in a better wicket taking option.

Pitch had some grass at the start.You conveniently ignore this reason put forward. Dhoni has retired. Why so insecure?

[sandeep]

Bhuvi outbowls Ishant on an unhelpful track - bowls more overs for fewer runs, same wickets, and but for a bit of DRS bad luck could have easily had another.  Bowls 1/3 of his overs in the 1st innings for maidens - highest ratio among all the bowlers.  But, he looks skinny and doesn't bowl "Phaast", so he's a waste of space.  

 

I bet you, same figures for Jayant Yadav, and usual suspects would be out saying how well he did his "support" job.   

[Malcolm Merlyn]

7 minutes ago, New guy said:

Let's ignore that seamers took the bulk of the wickets in first innings shall we? Let's ignore that kohli is focusing long term and building a team and seam attack for the future

 

lets only focus on the narrow minded spin dependent mentality which has never helped us develop an all round seam attack and made us **** overseas 

 

Lets ignore that BK did nothing much.Lets ignore that Ishant and Umesh were the ones who bowled better and would have played anyway.

 

Lets ignore that playing BK on this pitch does nothing or team building for overseas tours.Its like saying Australia and SA should play 2 spinners at Brisbane and Perth to build spin attack for playing in Asia.

 

You play to win,how do you win,by spin or pace is irrelevant as long as you win.Let me remind you that Indian won its first series in England and first test in Australia on the back of spinners.Lets not give a young promising wrist spinner like Kuldeep because we need to play the trundler Bhuvi Kumar.

[Mosher]

It was a good decision to go in with 3 pacers on this pitch. All of them chipped in with wickets and kept up the pressure. If our best spinners Ashwin and Jaddu struggled in the 1st innings don't think Jayant would have done anything better. Kuldeep would have got a game only if the pitch was a rank turner.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

7 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Bhuvi outbowls Ishant on an unhelpful track - bowls more overs for fewer runs, same wickets, and but for a bit of DRS bad luck could have easily had another.  Bowls 1/3 of his overs in the 1st innings for maidens - highest ratio among all the bowlers.  But, he looks skinny and doesn't bowl "Phaast", so he's a waste of space.  

 

I bet you, same figures for Jayant Yadav, and usual suspects would be out saying how well he did his "support" job.   

 

 

You need to take wickets to win the test mmatch,if the pitch was supporting pacers it would have been good to play BK.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

2 minutes ago, Mosher said:

It was a good decision to go in with 3 pacers on this pitch. All of them chipped in with wickets and kept up the pressure. If our best spinners Ashwin and Jaddu struggled in the 1st innings don't think Jayant would have done anything better. Kuldeep would have got a game only if the pitch was a rank turner.

Kuldeep is a wrist spinner and variety we needed over Jayant Yadav.BK adds notning to the team here.

[New guy]

6 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

Kuldeep is a wrist spinner and variety we needed over Jayant Yadav.BK adds notning to the team here.

Bk adds nothing because you say so? Umesh was wicketless in 7 innings in England series out of 10. One innings and you make sweeping judgement 

 

You are the typical example of Indian mentality and even bangla has.made more progress in fast bowling than us 

[New guy]

10 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

 

 

You need to take wickets to win the test mmatch,if the pitch was supporting pacers it would have been good to play BK.

Spinners did jack **** in first innings. Jaddu took 1 wicket in second innings. Yet you have some weird fantasy of q third spinner doing good?

[sandeep]

12 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

 

 

You need to take wickets to win the test mmatch,if the pitch was supporting pacers it would have been good to play BK.

There's 5 bowlers in the team.  How many wickets did Ashwin take at Chennai against England?  Bhuvi played his role decently in this test match.  I did not watch his spell in the 2nd innings, but he was quality with the new ball in the 1st innings, could have easily picked up a couple of wickets then.  And don't forget, he provided a badly needed break-through with the old ball on Day 4.  Another hour or so of that partnership, and draw would have loomed a lot larger.  

 

If a 3rd spinner chips in with a wicket or 2, and keeps things tight, he's lauded.  When your pacer does that, on a wicket that has zero help for him, he's bashed.  Expectations fail.  

 

 

Edited February 12, 2017 by sandeep

[Lord]

BK was better than even Ashwin in first innings

 

Match toh khatam hone do.Bowled a beauty to dismiss Mehdi today,via reverse swing btw.

 

This thread can look stupid tomorrow

[New guy]

14 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

 

Lets ignore that BK did nothing much.Lets ignore that Ishant and Umesh were the ones who bowled better and would have played anyway.

 

Lets ignore that playing BK on this pitch does nothing or team building for overseas tours.Its like saying Australia and SA should play 2 spinners at Brisbane and Perth to build spin attack for playing in Asia.

 

You play to win,how do you win,by spin or pace is irrelevant as long as you win.Let me remind you that Indian won its first series in England and first test in Australia on the back of spinners.Lets not give a young promising wrist spinner like Kuldeep because we need to play the trundler Bhuvi Kumar.

Umesh yadav went wicketless in 7 innings out of 10 in English series but speed gun fanatics like you did.not make such threads a single time

 

I am sick of hypocrites like you constantly targeting bk blindly based on speed gun readings. You are willing to target bk based on one innings but ignored umesh for 7 innings without a wicket before he even bowled ok in 1 or 2. That is the height of double standards here 

[Lord]

3 minutes ago, sandeep said:

There's 5 bowlers in the team.  How many wickets did Ashwin take at Chennai against England?  Bhuvi played his role decently in this test match.  I did not watch his spell in the 2nd innings, but he was quality with the new ball in the 1st innings, could have easily picked up a couple of wickets then.  And don't forget, he provided a badly needed break-through with the old ball on Day 4.  Another hour or so of that partnership, and draw would have loomed a lot larger.  

 

If a 3rd spinner chips in with a wicket or 2, and keeps things tight, he's lauded.  When your pacer does that, on a wicket that has zero help for him, he's bashed.  Expectations fail.  

 

 

not if hes 140+ on speedgun