Kohli's arrogance helps his game but not the team

[zen]

1 minute ago, rtmohanlal said:

Kohli  India's greatest ever batsman !!!!!!!!!!!!!!....even a school kid has got cricketing sense than this author

Would depend upon the metrics one uses .... Unlike what many fans of certain cricketers like to believe, there is no clear answer

[diga]

3 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

Kohli  India's greatest ever batsman !!!!!!!!!!!!!!....even a school kid has got cricketing sense than this author

I think it's his all time xi..we can have a billion all time xi's in this country

[Silva]

3 hours ago, Sooda said:

The BCCI and their cheerleaders brag about India being the centre of world cricket. This may be true in monetary terms, but decidedly not in sporting terms. From my own stint in the BCCI, I reached this melancholy conclusion: that were the game better administered in India, the Indian team would never lose a series. There are ten times as many cricket-crazy Indians as there are football-mad Brazilians. The BCCI has huge cash reserves. With this demographic and financial base, India should always and perennially have been the top team in all formats of the game. If India still lost matches and series, if India still hadn't, in 70 years of trying, won a Test series in Australia (a country with about as many people as Greater Mumbai), then surely the fault lay with how the game was mismanaged in the country.

 

This is a myth that Indians are cricket mad. look at the stadiums during international test matches in India. Compare attendance for domestic competitions in India to the brazilian premiere football competition. Ranji trophy matches are so poorly attended that people drive through the grounds looking for a shortcut. If Indians supported their ranji trophy team with a quarter of the passion they support team India then yes India would dominate but they don't.  The only time Indians show passion for domestic cricket is During the IPL and if people like Guha were in charge it wouldn't exist.

[Sooda]

1 hour ago, Silva said:

The flip side to this is that if Kohli picked rahane in both tests ahead of Pandya India could have lost by even bigger margins and no one would complain about Kohli picking an extra specialist batsman. Plus Ishant took 5/84, based on this logic can't you also say that if Ishant Played the first test the result may have been different? But no one is Bashing Kohli for not playing Ishant in the first test. 

 

I agree that Kohli made a dumb mistake in picking dhawan and rohit but a lot of this stuff is just pilling on. Even with BK we all know that since Dhoni the team specifically only plays him when their is considerable grass on the pitch. Its not like this policy started under kohli. Same with India sucking overseas, it started since 2011. 

It was not a choice between Rahane and Pandya but between Rahane and Rohit... And the reason Ishant didn't play first test is because he was unwell. Don't think Bumrah would have played.

[Sooda]

3 hours ago, Tattieboy said:

The article shows the mentality of someone living in the past.  

Just because someone was great at wielding a piece of willow or be able to bowl a ball  does not mean that they have cricket intelligence to be a selector . 

Nor does it mean coaches have to be great players 

This reverence in India that someone who is great at one thing must be great at all things is misplaced.  

 surely there are enough good ex cricketers who would make good selectors. The point is they need to have cojones and not be Kohli chamchas. And ex cricketers of some standing should have that personality and cricket judgement to go with it. That was what was Kohlis problem with Kumble was

[Tattieboy]

7 minutes ago, Sooda said:

 surely there are enough good ex cricketers who would make good selectors. The point is they need to have cojones and not be Kohli chamchas. And ex cricketers of some standing should have that personality and cricket judgement to go with it. That was what was Kohlis problem with Kumble was

I agree ex good cricketers would make good selectors.  This gentleman is suggesting all time greats should automatically go into jobs. The fact that Indian cricket is political from the top to the bottom makes it very hard.  Speak out of  turn even at state junior levels means bye bye 

[Trichromatic]

His arrogance makes him reluctant to leave slips and how exactly is it helping him?

 

He has hardly improved as fielder. Still remains an average fielder.

[VT87]

1 hour ago, zen said:

Might be a good idea to have separate captains and coaches for Tests and LOIs

 

A test specialist like Pujara could be the captain. Someone like Kumble can be brought in

 

Kohli and Shastri (or whoever) can continue in LOIs

 

Successes and failures of team in one format should not determine who should lead in the other. For eg if the test team is doing relatively better than LOI’s, it should not be like make Pujara the captain in LOIs too or vice versa. Both formats are different and requires different approaches and KPIs

Great idea  lets make Pujara as a captain afterall he is your best batsman . Do you think Pujara can break Sachin's most hundred outside Asia record? On a serious note  rahane would be a best choice for captaincy .he is calm , compose and way better than this idiot Kohli.

[zen]

2 minutes ago, VT87 said:

Great idea  lets make Pujara as a captain afterall he is your best batsman . Do you think Pujara can break Sachin's most hundred outside Asia record? On a serious note  rahane would be a best choice for captaincy .he is calm , compose and way better than this idiot Kohli.

Pujara captains Saurashtra and iirc adapts an aggressive approach by looking for wkts and having an attacking field

[Silva]

50 minutes ago, Sooda said:

It was not a choice between Rahane and Pandya but between Rahane and Rohit... And the reason Ishant didn't play first test is because he was unwell. Don't think Bumrah would have played.

It wasnt a choice because kohli has been adament that india play 5 bowlers. 

 

Again, if kohli picked 6 batsman and india still collapsed nobody would think pandya would have made a difference and kohli would recive no critism compared to what he is getting now. Same with Bk.  how come no one came out with pitchforks after he was dropped after winning man of the series in England. Why are these experts only complaining now? 

Edited January 20, 2018 by Silva

[goose]

Kohli hasn't done enough great things to notice silly albeit conspicuous deficiencies like 4th innings performance. 

 

 

[Khota]

4 hours ago, chewy said:

Rohit should be ODI and T20 captain 

On level playing field (IPL), Rohit Sharma has out performed both Kohli and Dhoni in captaincy role

 

He should get captaincy of T20. You need to pick a third captain for ODI.

[maniac]

Let me get my popcorn..ok  @Gollum start!!!

[Gollum]

37 minutes ago, maniac said:

Let me get my popcorn..ok  @Gollum start!!!

Bhai Guha ka article hai, itni bhi buri naubat nahi aayi ki uspe apna samay barbaad karoon. A man got to have a code and my code entails me to ignore op-eds penned by the likes of Guha. I shall let this one pass. 

[Sean Bradley]

6 hours ago, BeautifulGame said:

 

This bit is scarily worrying .

 

You can't have an individual having this power.Kohli is having  the power the decide the management of NCA which has absolutely no role for Indian captain.

 

Guha is 100% right in saying we need strong characters and big names as coach and Selectors.Can honestly anyone see MSK Prasad even having the courage to suggest an alternative players to Kohli during selection meetings considering the stature of the two of them ? Let's not even go into the yes man Shastri.

 

This is why we need strong personalities in selectors and coach.One of the best thing BCCI could do is bring in Ganguly as cheif of selectors.Doubt it though.Looks like the stature of Kohli is too huge for a  BCCI in turmoil to confront him.

 

Just hope Kohli learns from his mistakes  for future , particularly 2019 WC.Because the yes men he has surrounded himself with aren't gonna point it out to him.

 

Shastri is a corrupt pig,they are paying him 8 crs/annum for that $hit job and he is stuck there like a leech. We need men of character like Ganguly, Dilip Vengsarkar, Anil Kumble, Rahul Dravid, Zahir Khan, to run the administrative and selective part, then even the likes of kohli can be humbled.

[Dada's Army]

Interesting article, even if an opportunistic one. The fact remains that India were in the 2 games for the first 80% of the matches, and the biggest reason why they lost is that they didn't play up to their level( bad batting, poor fielding).

 

Some good criticism from Guha though about the BCCI . Now of course, for those of us outside of the loop it is not possible to verify all of his allegations. While a fair number of them sound like they have a solid grain of truth behind them, he does have a sensationalist tone.

 

I agree with him that Kohli might already be India's greatest ever batsman( sensationalist- moi? ), and this: 

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And the administrators must schedule the calendar to maximise India's chances of doing well overseas, rather than with an eye to their egos and purses.

Preach!

 

Finally, I have to say these bizarre team selections have to end. Someone, either Shastri or selectors need to stand to whoever thought dropping Bhuvi was a good idea.

 

[Dada's Army]

6 hours ago, Khota said:

 

My Solution:

 

Three formats three captains. Two coaches.

England are already trying two captains. SA do too. Might be a good idea actually.

[vishalvirsingh]

6 hours ago, Gollum said:

'In all formats and in all situations, Kohli might already be India's greatest ever batsman'.

 

Stopped reading after that. 

when i watched both these tests, i found Virat Kohli trying his level BEST all the time. I mean when he fielded in Slips or ran behind a BALL or tried to catch a Ball..since I play cricket myself , i know what it means giving 100 % or what it means giving 80 %.

 

100 % is when the fielder predicts and is ready to run towards where he is feeling the batsman is hitting. 

 

when i was asked to field , i was asked to field either at long ON /long off or some times at MID Off. i loved the Mid Off position and did not like the boundry line Long off position fielding too much- i did run and field and covered a lot of area but i always gave 90 percent of my capabilities.

 

when once i was posted at mid off and a square cut towards gully was cut , i ran for 6 steps and slid for 10 feet to stop the ball going behind- my captain and team was shocked to see how I judged that the batsman was square cutting and i had started running towards gully before the batsman had actually played the Shot..some times i Surprised myself with the fielding quality. even once i was put in Slips and i managed to catch , i went mad and dreamt of catching that Slips catch for 10 days ..it was crazy.

 

I can connect with Kohli when he demands 100 to 120 %..india has to have most of their bowlers and batsman at 100 to 110 % if we have to win. i see kohli trying 100 to 125 % some times...also Pandya ..i see trying 125 %.

All others are seen at Maximum 100 %.

as per my observation Skills- i believe that kohli and pandya and bumrah in bowling only( not in fielding or batting) is trying 100 to 125 % thats why i like kohli and pandya. 

 

even Umesh Used to try 100 percent when he bowled at 145+ and even fielded like a sprinter but his line n length is a question mark now?

 

 

[goose]

commentators do not make good coaches

[Khota]

58 minutes ago, Dada's Army said:

England are already trying two captains. SA do too. Might be a good idea actually.

Need to dilute the power of one captain. Might actually see multiple players come through.