SecondSlip Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) Calling it right now! If Kuldeep plays all 5 tests against England this August, he will be man of the series and win it for us 3-1. Team England won’t know what hit em’ Edited June 6, 2018 by SecondSlip zen, Garuda, Sean Bradley and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 But he won't. Clarke and Garuda 1 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 first he shud be selected in the squad Link to comment
philcric Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 IMO, should be given first go. Only if he fails in the first 2 tests, Ash/Jaddu should be considered. But Virat will not 'play bold'. He will take the conservative option of Ash / Jaddu. Mosher 1 Link to comment
LORD_analyst Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, philcric said: IMO, should be given first go. Only if he fails in the first 2 tests, Ash/Jaddu should be considered. totaaly true....give option to ash only if kuldeep fails in first 2 tests. Link to comment
Gollum Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) How's his batting? We will go a bit light on the batting front with only 5 specialist bats, hence will rely a LOT on lower order runs. I am 100% backing Kuldeep to play all 4 tests in Aus (Ash/Jaddu won't work there at all) but Eng, not sure. He isn't some Warne or Murali the way he is hyped up on this forum, most of his exploits have come in white ball cricket. Edited June 6, 2018 by Gollum Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 There is a merit to his selection. You cannot see him off like you do against finger spinners especially on a slightly turning track. But Ashwin did not do that badly in SA. But for drops he would have picked 7 wickets in the test. If not all 5, they could try him in case Ashwin flunks in first two. Link to comment
velu Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 if more lefties , then play ashwin.. if more righties then play kuldeep.. nayi soch Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, velu said: if more lefties , then play ashwin.. if more righties then play kuldeep.. nayi soch Anyone but Ashwin. That guy could not buy a wicket on a pitch that helped the spinners in SA. Even Elgar and Kock handled him well. velu 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: There is a merit to his selection. You cannot see him off like you do against finger spinners especially on a slightly turning track. But Ashwin did not do that badly in SA. But for drops he would have picked 7 wickets in the test. If not all 5, they could try him in case Ashwin flunks in first two. More like 7 in the 1st innings, that performance had a 10fer written all over it. Link to comment
Sean Bradley Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Don't mind chahal either but no Ashwin please SLICKR392 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 If Ashwin is dropped even Kohli, Dhawan and Pujara shouldn't play...it's only fair that way. Link to comment
LORD_analyst Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Gollum said: If Ashwin is dropped even Kohli, Dhawan and Pujara shouldn't play...it's only fair that way. ashwin can play after first 2 test matches ....but kuldeep will have to start.....we need to find out ,if kuldeep can offer something more than ashwn. sometimes ,in team u are dropped not for bad performances but ur replacement can offer much more than u.....ashwin will remain india's test spinner....but we need to try out wrist-spinner on non-helping pitches. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 He will be canned there. Has no control, not a big turner of the ball and too slow for those slow non-turning pitches. Stuge and Switchblade 1 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 6 hours ago, LORD_analyst said: ashwin can play after first 2 test matches ....but kuldeep will have to start.....we need to find out ,if kuldeep can offer something more than ashwn. sometimes ,in team u are dropped not for bad performances but ur replacement can offer much more than u.....ashwin will remain india's test spinner....but we need to try out wrist-spinner on non-helping pitches. you can find that out in warmups. Link to comment
Mosher Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 8 hours ago, velu said: if more lefties , then play ashwin.. if more righties then play kuldeep.. nayi soch Kuldeep takes the ball away from the lefties too. Ashwin will be picked more for his batting in England. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 8 hours ago, velu said: if more lefties , then play ashwin.. if more righties then play kuldeep.. nayi soch what? both bring the ball back in to righties. For righties, we need a right arm leg spinner. Chinamen is off spin for righties. LORD_analyst 1 Link to comment
philcric Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: He will be canned there. Has no control, not a big turner of the ball and too slow for those slow non-turning pitches. He has pretty good control. Hardly bowls rank bad balls. He turns the ball more than Ash and Jaddu. His USP is he can pitch the ball at the same spot (around off stump) with similar action/pace and the ball can turn either way. Yes, he probably has to work on his pace for different pitches. Mosher, Samcric, LORD_analyst and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Shunya Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I say Ashwin for first couple of games. He is good with bat as well. Garuda 1 Link to comment
philcric Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: what? both bring the ball back in to righties. For righties, we need a right arm leg spinner. Chinamen is off spin for righties. Wrist spinners can turn it both ways, finger spinners can't. Anyway it's not just about bringing the ball in or away to righties. It's about individual bowler's strengths too. Ash's record against left handers is far far better than right handers. Kuldeep probably has more balanced record against lefties and righties. Link to comment
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