Who needs to be replaced by rahul- Dhawan or Pujara??

[LORD_analyst]

some wise words-

 

 

 

"Both Shikhar and Pujara are horseshit. But if Shikhar has a good day and he starts under the sun in an afternoon session, he might score a hundred. If Pujara has a good day, he will fight, fight and fight for 5 hours and score 30. Choose your man."

[Trichromatic]

It's really difficult to say who is worse.

 

Dhawan can change game in a session or two is just an hypothetical scenario which just doesn't happen. I would go ahead and say that chances of Dhawan scoring a 100 at decent SR is same as Pujara scoring 100 at same SR overseas.

 

On the other hand, chances of Dhawan of scoring a 50 like Pujara did in Johannesberg is almost 0.

 

 

 

 

[LORD_analyst]

14 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Dhawan can change game in a session or two is just an hypothetical scenario which just doesn't happen. I would go ahead and say that chances of Dhawan scoring a 100 at decent SR is same as Pujara scoring 100 at same SR oversea

will play dhawan on flat pitch , and pujara on green pitch.

 

also, in 2nd innings, the grass on pitch will burn off....can bet a million dollars that in those conditions where there is no grass, dhawan will edge out pujara, everytime.

@express bowling??

[LORD_analyst]

20 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Dhawan can change game in a session or two is just an hypothetical scenario which just doesn't happen. I would go ahead and say that chances of Dhawan scoring a 100 at decent SR is same as Pujara scoring 100 at same SR overseas.

 

On the other hand, chances of Dhawan of scoring a 50 like Pujara did in Johannesberg is almost 0.

a paradox, indeed.....if pujara comes out of his shell, will play him everytime over dhawan.

Edited July 28, 2018 by LORD_analyst

[kohli]

Dhwan

[Number]

Rahul

VJ

Rahane

Kohli

Pujara/Dhawan

Karthik

[beetle]

Replace both with new guys.

They may do as little but atleast they get experience and we get hope.

[Trichromatic]

8 minutes ago, LORD_analyst said:

will play dhawan on flat pitch , and pujara on green pitch.

 

also, in 2nd innings, the grass on pitch will burn off....can bet a million dollars that in those conditions where there is no grass, dhawan will edge out pujara, everytime.

@express bowling??

1. Dhawan is not a flat track bully in tests.

2. Dhawan was averaging 40 in Indian tests before Afghan series while other batsmen were averaging 45-60. Rahane being exceptionally poor with 33.

3. Chepu is better flat track bully than Dhawan, outscored him marginally in Aus.

4. Just because Dhawan can't survive moving ball, it's a myth being propagated on ICF that Dhawan is some sort of FTB.

5. Dhawan needs little bit of movement to fail and those conditions will always be there with new red ball even in good batting conditions.

6. Dhawan does gives a feeling that he can fluke one good inning on a good day, which won't happen with Pujara.

 

 

[LORD_analyst]

21 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

1. Dhawan is not a flat track bully in tests.

2. Dhawan was averaging 40 in Indian tests before Afghan series while other batsmen were averaging 45-60. Rahane being exceptionally poor with 33.

3. Chepu is better flat track bully than Dhawan, outscored him marginally in Aus.

4. Just because Dhawan can't survive moving ball, it's a myth being propagated on ICF that Dhawan is some sort of FTB.

5. Dhawan needs little bit of movement to fail and those conditions will always be there with new red ball even in good batting conditions.

6. Dhawan does gives a feeling that he can fluke one good inning on a good day, which won't happen with Pujara.

 

 

on green pitch , surviving is as important as scoring.....che will edge over dhawan in that case, so that he can protect strokemakers like kohli, rahane from new ball.

 

but with the old ball , che seems to be a liability.

 

really ,really tough.....

[Samcric]

Pujara for the 1st test. Dhawan looks clueless against balls that move around a bit whether swing or seam. Dukes move a bit all day. Will be a huge bet. He will probably come good once or twice in 10 innings if he were to play all games. I am not sure if that is a chance worth taking. But then if Pujara plays like the way he played county cricket, then we are truly doomed.

 

For the sake of Indian Cricket, let's hope Pujara scores a fifty in 1st test. Nair didn't look convincing in that India A series so Pant is the only other option. 

 

 

Edited July 28, 2018 by Samcric

[Trichromatic]

4 minutes ago, LORD_analyst said:

on green pitch , surviving is as important as scoring.....che will edge over dhawan in that case, so that he can protect strokemakers like kohli, rahane from new ball.

 

but with the old ball , che seems to be a liability.

 

really ,really tough.....

Both seems like players digging hole, while you see one going down and think he is really bad, just need to look other side to find that other has already dug up deeper.

 

Pujara failed county season and we thought oh boy, this is bad, then Dhawan stepped up competition by bagging a pair in practice match.

[saik]

Vijay

Rahul

Dk

Rahane

Kohli

Pant

[rkt.india]

Yes, against Broad and Anderson if he "starts under the sun in an afternoon session, he might score a TEN."

[Samcric]

BTW, Vijay is lucky to not be a part of this discussion as he was also dropped multiple times in the Essex match. Amongst the Top 3, only Rahul seemed convincing.

[jf1gp_1]

posters on this forum are unbelievable, just before SA series ie 3 test ago people were cry how bias kohli is because he doesnt rate Pujara now they dont even want him in the team. By the end of this series i bet same will happen to Rahul. 

[rkt.india]

37 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

1. Dhawan is not a flat track bully in tests.

2. Dhawan was averaging 40 in Indian tests before Afghan series while other batsmen were averaging 45-60. Rahane being exceptionally poor with 33.

3. Chepu is better flat track bully than Dhawan, outscored him marginally in Aus.

4. Just because Dhawan can't survive moving ball, it's a myth being propagated on ICF that Dhawan is some sort of FTB.

5. Dhawan needs little bit of movement to fail and those conditions will always be there with new red ball even in good batting conditions.

6. Dhawan does gives a feeling that he can fluke one good inning on a good day, which won't happen with Pujara.

 

 

Dhawan could not handle Philander with his 125-130k bowling even in India with zero movement.

[LORD_analyst]

3 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Yes, against Broad and Anderson if he "starts under the sun in an afternoon session, he might score a TEN."

.....really a big gamble to play him.....it's a failure of indian cricket that u can't identify a player's overseas ability even on 2nd overseas cycle...should have played india A  tests vs wi A instead of meaningless t-20 series.

[Clarke]

And then King Kohli does a klpd on every Indian cricket fan by dropping Rahul and playing Dhawan and Pujara.

[LORD_analyst]

13 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Pujara failed county season and we thought oh boy, this is bad, then Dhawan stepped up competition by bagging a pair in practice match.

pujara should start, i think....

 

if he fails, then there should be no  place in indian cricket for him.

[Trichromatic]

3 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Dhawan could not handle Philander with his 125-130k bowling even in India with zero movement.

Yes, that's why I said that it's a myth being propagated on ICF that Dhawan is some kind of flat track bully.