WC slots - DK vs Pant (2nd keeper slot)

[Ankit_sharma03]

Last round to claim a WC spot begins with Aus Series

The battles

1. Shankar vs rayudu (team mngt looks very impressed with him and he looks damn solid)
2. DK vs pant ( cameo king vs special talent)
3. Krunal vs Jadeja 
4. Rahul vs shaw vs mayank vs rahane (the backup opener)
5. Khaleel vs shardul vs umesh vs kaul (4th seamer)

 

Others have thread so this was the one that was remaining . 

Its clear dhoni will go anyone wants to waste time on that go ahead for others 

 

Pant Vs DK 

[Khota]

At this stage this is tough one. Strictly based on what we are seeing both are 1a and 1b. 

[SK_IH]

Pant , however not any high expectations from him but let's move on from DK.

 

[speedheat]

I 'll go for pant. Fearless hitter, today he showed what he is capable of was 23 off jus 6 at one stage.

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Ill go with pant, i dont expect consistency but he is a special player and on his day he can win u the game from any situation. 

DK can win u but only from a certain situation so Pant ahead of him for me.  Also pant is starting to have a dominating aura around him in the world and he will do his reputation a gr8 good by the time IPL ends

[Adi BB]

I'd take pant anyday ,he will be the surprise factor maybe like fakhar zaman in CT.

We can use pant as a pinch hitter as well when required 

[saik]

1.Shankar - better batsman and can also bowl.

2.Dk vs Pant: Still undecided. Dk seems good as a finisher. Pant is yet to prove his talent in this format.Maybe Dhoni can be rested for the Aus series and both of them can be given chances.

3.Krunal.

4.Shaw.

5.Umesh seems the best from the worst.

 

[prasen82]

i am a DK supporter, but will go with Pant due to X factor. DK can come in if pant fails midway in WC. i would however take all 3 to WC( dhoni ofc)

 

Ideal 11

Dhawan,Rohit,Kohli,Pant,Dhoni,Jadhav,Pandya,Kuldeep,Shami,Chahal,Bumrah.

 

rest 4 for WC squad will be BK, DK, Rayudu, Vijayshankar.

 

If Dhoni starts crapping midway replace with vijayshankar. we dont have a back up opener and probably it will be rayudu. 

[Gollum]

Pant easily, DK isn't an ODI option....tbh he won't get into any of the top 9 teams in the world. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

5 minutes ago, prasen82 said:

i am a DK supporter, but will go with Pant due to X factor. DK can come in if pant fails midway in WC. i would however take all 3 to WC( dhoni ofc)

that cant happen , only 2 wud be taken.....replacement can happen only in case of injury 

 

[prasen82]

Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

that cant happen , only 2 wud be taken.....replacement can happen only in case of injury 

 

take DK as a pure bat.. 2 of DK/Dhoni/Pant will play.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, prasen82 said:

take DK as a pure bat.. 2 of DK/Dhoni/Pant will play.

I highly doubt it wud happen

DK is more of a cameo player and pant is inconsistent.......i doubt they ll carry both 

[Jimmy Cliff]

Pant obviously for me but I see these 12 as certainties in the squad.

 

Rohit

Dhawan

Kohli

Rayudu

Dhoni

Jadhav

Pandya H

BK

Kuldeep

Shami

Bumrah

Chahal

 

There is no battle between Rayudu and Shankar AFAIC with Rayudu being a guaranteed starter. A backup keeper is essential so 1 out of DK/Pant will be picked with DK more likely. For the remaining 2 slots, the TM have to decide whether they want

 

1. A backup opener (Rahul is the only choice with zero chance for Shaw/Gill/Agarwal unless they go full retard going back to Rahane).

2. Backup all-rounder (Jadeja or Krunal).

3. 4th Seamer (Khaleel or Umesh).

 

I think DK and Jadeja will almost certainly make the squad going by the this TM's track record. For the last spot, if Rahul's form doesn't improve, they might end up picking an extra batsman in Pant or Shankar instead of an opener. A 4th seamer won't be selected IMO as the choices are too uninspiring.

 

 

 

 

[prudent_kreeda]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Last round to claim a WC spot begins with Aus Series

The battles

1. Shankar vs rayudu (team mngt looks very impressed with him and he looks damn solid)
2. DK vs pant ( cameo king vs special talent)
3. Krunal vs Jadeja 
4. Rahul vs shaw vs mayank vs rahane (the backup opener)
5. Khaleel vs shardul vs umesh vs kaul (4th seamer)

 

Others have thread so this was the one that was remaining . 

Its clear dhoni will go anyone wants to waste time on that go ahead for others 

 

Pant Vs DK 

  Krunal was not and will never be in the picture for WC 19.

[Ankit_sharma03]

5 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

 

There is no battle between Rayudu and Shankar AFAIC with Rayudu being a guaranteed starter.

 

Dont count that out 

1. TM looks very impressed with shankar and thats why they gave him ample chances even in a format which was not his strong one that to in top order

2. Rayudu did struggle against pace n bounce , whereas shankar looks at ease

3. Rayudu proved to be a minus on field, shankar was gr8 in fielding plus he can bowl a bit

 

There is time left u never knw . At this point rayudu is ahead but things can change really fast

[Jimmy Cliff]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Dont count that out 

1. TM looks very impressed with shankar and thats why they gave him ample chances even in a format which was not his strong one that to in top order

2. Rayudu did struggle against pace n bounce , whereas shankar looks at ease

3. Rayudu proved to be a minus on field, shankar was gr8 in fielding plus he can bowl a bit

 

There is time left u never knw . At this point rayudu is ahead but things can change really fast

They might well be impressed with him and he could sneak in as the extra batsman ahead of Rahul but Rayudu is going nowhere. Not after the way they have invested in him as the no. 4 and especially after he has been the top scorer in the NZ ODI series.

[Tibarn]

Based on the OP's koschans

 

Shankar, Krunal, Rahul, Umesh, Pant 

[bowl_out]

1. Rayudu is a certainty in the WC squad whether you like it or not

2. Both Pant and DK

3. Shankar ahead of Jadeja and Krunal as the third all rounder (albeit being a batsman who can give you a few overs)

4. None. Pant can be the back up opener if required. Else he can give you the middle order/keeper option

5. None. We'll go with three bowlers

 

Likely squad :

Starting XI : Rohit, Dhawan, Kohli, Rayudu, Dhoni, Jadhav, Hardik, Kuldeep, Chahal, Shami, Bumrah

 

Reserve : Bhuvi, DK, Pant, Shankar

 

If the selectors think this is one batsman too many, Pant/Shankar might lose out for Jadeja/Khaleel.

 

Other than that, this looks like our final squad barring any injuries.

[SecondSlip]

3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Last round to claim a WC spot begins with Aus Series

The battles

1. Shankar vs rayudu (team mngt looks very impressed with him and he looks damn solid)
2. DK vs pant ( cameo king vs special talent)
3. Krunal vs Jadeja 
4. Rahul vs shaw vs mayank vs rahane (the backup opener)
5. Khaleel vs shardul vs umesh vs kaul (4th seamer)

 

Others have thread so this was the one that was remaining . 

Its clear dhoni will go anyone wants to waste time on that go ahead for others 

 

Pant Vs DK 

Most likely results according to management: 

 

1. Rayudu has sealed his spot in the World Cup squad. He has done nothing wrong since his comeback into the team. Both Kohli and Dhoni highly support him as well. 

 

2. Management will most likely select Karthik and use him at #6 as a lower order batsman who can finish off games in the last 10-15 overs. The management rate him highly. 

 

3. None of these 2 will be in the World Cup squad. Kuldeep and Chahal will be the only two spinners going to England. We did the same 2 years ago for the Champions Trophy squad as well.  

 

4. KL Rahul will be selected as the back up opener. He is already working hard with Dravid for India “A” and will be back in the senior team very soon. He has done nothing wrong in LOIs to be dropped. 

 

5. Management will most likely select Umesh Yadav for his experience. All 3 of Khaleel, Thakur and Kaul have failed to show that they are better bowlers than Umesh. All 3 have failed to impress when they were given chances. 

Edited February 10, 2019 by SecondSlip

[Sonix768]

Currently both Dk and Pant doesn't inspire any confidence. We shouldn't be carried over by the T20 performances of them, especially in this pocket size NZ roads. Both of them didn't do much in ODIs yet. DK might have slight edge due to the number of 30s (his max threshold, it seems ) and one cameo in a win against Aus. But a single freak inning by Pant (going by his track record, mostly in 5th ODI) might seal his spot.

 

One thing seems to be certain. Both of them are too inconsistent and unreliable to be a No.4  (not that the TM would consider them to be but just in case) and other slots kind of pretty much sealed, can't see them in a starting 11 barring any injury to Dhoni/Jadhav.