IndianRenegade Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 The thread on our top order got me thinking on our batting. India has always been a batting powerhouse. Ganguly undoubtedly laid the foundation of what became the modern Indian team - Sehwag, yuvi, MSD. Then under Dhoni - raina, ghambir, virat, rohit, dhawan flourished. All of them are superstars. I can’t think of one young Indian batting star who has made it big after kohli became captain!! There in lies our problem, and kohli’s failure compared to the other great captains. Agree or disagree? Switchblade, Ankit_sharma03, SecondSlip and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Ajju Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 PANT is next superstar i have seen lot of PANT fans i mean next coming crickets i am talking about only Craze beetle and velu 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Get a better Captain like Rohit and ull see 4-5 superstars Unstable Joe, nikred, nevada and 4 others 2 2 3 Link to comment
Anoop K Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, IndianRenegade said: The thread on our top order got me thinking on our batting. India has always been a batting powerhouse. Ganguly undoubtedly laid the foundation of what became the modern Indian team - Sehwag, yuvi, MSD. Then under Dhoni - raina, ghambir, virat, rohit, dhawan flourished. All of them are superstars. I can’t think of one young Indian batting star who has made it big after kohli became captain!! There in lies our problem, and kohli’s failure compared to the other great captains. Agree or disagree? That's because our top 3 have been too good after Cricket WC 2015. Nobody could replace them. Pant still has time, Gill and Shaw will soon make in. People are just making too much noise. You all are behaving as if Indian cricket has been destroyed. It's not as if Kohli has been captain since ages. Link to comment
Popular Post raki05 Posted July 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) Kohli groomed rayadu, dk and shankar. Edited July 11, 2019 by raki05 helperononline, Stan AF, vijay50 and 7 others 2 8 Link to comment
Anoop K Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Get a better Captain like Rohit and ull see 4-5 superstars Rohit will see to it that dhoni plays 2023 WC. Link to comment
ViruDilSeKhelo Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) Jadeja kaptaan all phormats, no rohit/chepu split Gir park Edited July 11, 2019 by ViruDilSeKhelo velu, Moochad, nevada and 1 other 4 Link to comment
IndianRenegade Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ajju said: PANT is next superstar i have seen lot of PANT fans i mean next coming crickets i am talking about only Craze Well, he may be or may not. But where is the backing? Pant wouldn’t even have made it to the team if not for dhawan’s injury. The only reason we don’t know if pant is the real deal is because he wasn’t groomed. This is a failure of the captain, we have pretty much gone in with the same batting line up as 2015 sans yuvi, Raina. nevada 1 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) well timed thread.... yes... definitely ... Kohli reign has never allowed talented batsmen to flourish and become well rounded batsmen. Hence a huge gap between him and rest of the batsmen in the team. It is high time this guy is removed off captaincy and played as a senior batsman alone. Sachin,Dravid, Sehwag,Ganguly,Dhoni ,Gambhir - we had 6 batsmen who could play both formats and were far successful in general when compared to this era. Now!!!!!!!! Edited July 11, 2019 by rtmohanlal nevada 1 Link to comment
Nonbeliever Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Why koHai will challenge his own brand. beetle 1 Link to comment
IndianRenegade Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Anoop K said: That's because our top 3 have been too good after Cricket WC 2015. Nobody could replace them. Pant still has time, Gill and Shaw will soon make in. People are just making too much noise. You all are behaving as if Indian cricket has been destroyed. It's not as if Kohli has been captain since ages. The argument isn’t there’s no new talent in the bench. But why have we failed to groom any? Dhoni wasn’ Captain for ages when he won 2007 t20 wc or built the 2011 wc team. Edited July 11, 2019 by IndianRenegade Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said: Why koHai will challenge his own brand. This is it Link to comment
Arvind32 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Shubmann Gill Sarfraz Khan provided that hat India management gave them opportunities . Link to comment
TNAmarkFromIndia Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Kohli's biggest contribution as captain is probably Kuldeep and Chahal. There was no need to replace the top order and wasted years backing the wrong players for the middle order. Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 I feel we don't need superstars. I want guys like Carey and Smith who can stand u when the pressure is on. Not chokers who fall at the first sight of pressure. Doesn't matter how many runs they score when they fail when they're needed. Arvind32 1 Link to comment
Anoop K Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 45 minutes ago, Sandeep99 said: I feel we don't need superstars. I want guys like Carey and Smith who can stand u when the pressure is on. Not chokers who fall at the first sight of pressure. Doesn't matter how many runs they score when they fail when they're needed. So you mean to say we need cricket players only after 4 years in two matches. Other than those two matches nothing matters. Link to comment
Anoop K Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 3 hours ago, IndianRenegade said: The argument isn’t there’s no new talent in the bench. But why have we failed to groom any? Dhoni wasn’ Captain for ages when he won 2007 t20 wc or built the 2011 wc team. Dhoni didn't groom yuvraj, gambhir,zaheer,sachin all of them were MVP in those two tournaments. Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, Anoop K said: So you mean to say we need cricket players only after 4 years in two matches. Other than those two matches nothing matters. Yes.. this is the only ODI cup that matters. Nothing else. Link to comment
Anoop K Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 45 minutes ago, Sandeep99 said: Yes.. this is the only ODI cup that matters. Nothing else. Then appear on this forum after 4 years now for it will be useless things coming now. Link to comment
IndianRenegade Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Anoop K said: Dhoni didn't groom yuvraj, gambhir,zaheer,sachin all of them were MVP in those two tournaments. I never claimed dhoni was responsible for 90% of the ppl you list here. I gave credit to dada for yuvi.the point is all of these captains were able find new batting talents and groom them for the next big event. Only kohli went with the same 2015 team with even worse replacements for yuvi & Raina. Edited July 11, 2019 by IndianRenegade Link to comment
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