Bumrah vs Hasan Ali ---- Who's better prospect.

[putrevus]

6 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

What was peak pace of Waqar? 

More than Bumrah's peak pace.

[Ankit_sharma03]

6 minutes ago, putrevus said:

He is not better than either Wasim or Waqar yet. He might never be better than Akram.In odis he has not raised his level in knock out matches just like his captain.

Wasim n waqar didnt enjoy bowling with new ball, give bumrah any ball he gets the job done. By own admittance of wasim - he said he cudnt control new balls for years and waqar himself hs admitted he didnt knew how to ball with new ball for years

 

Bumrah is doing well without scratching the ball. 

 

I dnt think so its right to compare such long career to short one but till now bumrah has been no less then anyone in any format. He has ticked every possible box. 

 

Knockout is coz captain is filled with negative energy that affects whole team including himself. Kohli has done well in knockout under dhoni n t20.....was highest scorer in ct 2013, played a good knock in wc 2011 final. 

[express bowling]

13 minutes ago, putrevus said:

More than Bumrah's peak pace.

 

No evidence of that.

 

Waqar's quickest recorded ball was 152.x kph while Bumrah's quickest recorded ball is 153.3 kph.

 

As per Cricviz data ... Bumrah has bowled 75 deliveries above 150 kph in 2018.  And 46% of his deliveries in test cricket in 2018 were above 140 kph.

 

Now, that is very quick.

 

There is no evidence that Waqar was quicker than such impressive figures.

Edited August 31, 2019 by express bowling

[putrevus]

5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

No evidence of that.

 

Waqar's quickest recorded ball was 152.x kph while Bumrah's quickest recorded ball is 153.3 kph.

 

As per Cricviz data ... Bumrah has bowled 75 deliveries above 150 kph in 2018.  And 46% of his deliveries in test cricket in 2018 were above 140 kph.

 

Now, that is very quick.

 

There is no evidence that Waqar was quicker than such impressive figures.

Sorry Bumrah is not pacier than Waqar.Waqar before his injury was express and had much more pace than Bumrah.

 

On side note Bumrah is 11 tests old, let him play 50 odd tests before we classify him great fast bowlers.He is on his way but long way to go.

[putrevus]

12 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Wasim n waqar didnt enjoy bowling with new ball, give bumrah any ball he gets the job done. By own admittance of wasim - he said he cudnt control new balls for years and waqar himself hs admitted he didnt knew how to ball with new ball for years

 

Bumrah is doing well without scratching the ball. 

 

I dnt think so its right to compare such long career to short one but till now bumrah has been no less then anyone in any format. He has ticked every possible box. 

 

Knockout is coz captain is filled with negative energy that affects whole team including himself. Kohli has done well in knockout under dhoni n t20.....was highest scorer in ct 2013, played a good knock in wc 2011 final. 

So what if they did not know what they were doing, they still were taking wickets by bucket loads.Especially Waqar.

 

Bumrah is not better than either of them.

[express bowling]

4 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Sorry Bumrah is not pacier than Waqar.Waqar before his injury was express and had much more pace than Bumrah.

 

Not pacier ... but about the same pace.

 

Waqar has been clocked many times in his hey days. Very few balls were 150 k+.

 

4 minutes ago, putrevus said:

On side note Bumrah is 11 tests old, let him play 50 odd tests before we classify him great fast bowlers.He is on his way but long way to go.

No one is classifying him as a great fast bowler yet.  Just pointing out the potential provided he can stay injury free.

[Trichromatic]

38 minutes ago, putrevus said:

More than Bumrah's peak pace.

152 kph is Bumrah's peak pace. 

 

How do we know that Waqar was 155+? 

[cricketfan28]

this thread can be closed.

[Insidious]

9 hours ago, rkt.india said:

in 2000, Waqar used to bowl 128-135 and not 135-142.

I  saw an you tube. May be it was in 1999 or may be 2000. I couldn't recall. I would share the link if I get it again 

[Pollack]

On 8/29/2019 at 8:37 PM, Moochad said:

Thread didn't age well 

On the contrary, thread has aged well. Managed to troll hype-brigade (initially) and cynics (latter) both.

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

So what if they did not know what they were doing, they still were taking wickets by bucket loads.Especially Waqar.

 

Bumrah is not better than either of them.

bumrah has 55 wkts in 11 test.....without using bottle caps 

ur telling me thats not bucket full 

 

After 11 test 

waqar also had exact 55

Wasim after had 35

 

So what is suggesting that Both W were better

[express bowling]

2 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

152 kph is Bumrah's peak pace. 

 

 

153 k

[Straight Drive]

I think time has sorted the debate regarding who is better.

[Deleted_User_1]

1 hour ago, Straight Drive said:

I think time has sorted the debate regarding who is better.

excusez-moi? Bumrah has closed his bunghole after this. Hasan Ali cannot even get a sniff now!!! 

[Vijy]

5 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

152 kph is Bumrah's peak pace. 

 

How do we know that Waqar was 155+? 

pak fans will claim that wacky bowled 160 and that mohd zahid bowled anywhere between 170 to 180 at his peak. don't believe their numbers.

[Mirpur express]

Oh the desperation. Comparing to Wasim and Waqar

 

 

Edited August 31, 2019 by Mirpur express

[Vijy]

4 minutes ago, Mirpur express said:

Oh the desperation. Comparing to Wasim and Waqar

 

 

better than comparing ahmed shehzad to kohli, or faheem ashraf to pandya, or babar azam to bradman. the list goes on greenbro.

[New guy]

I still believe Ali has more potential 

[Mirpur express]

6 minutes ago, Vijy said:

better than comparing ahmed shehzad to kohli, or faheem ashraf to pandya, or babar azam to bradman. the list goes on greenbro.

 

Not just comparing but to out right say Bumrah is better. I think this is un called for. You can compare obviously. How many Tests has Bumrah played in India? Remember many Tests Pakistan played on were dead wickets like Faisalabad. Bumrah is a great bowler but won't be able to match Wasim, Waqar, Imran. These guys had charisma, sexy looks,  reverse swinging yorkers and mad aggression. Nothing against Bumrah. He will be the greatest Indian bowler but not a patch on Wasim, Waqar or Imran for that matter. 

 

 

Edited August 31, 2019 by Mirpur express

[New guy]

3 minutes ago, Mirpur express said:

 

Not just comparing but to out right say Bumrah is better. I think this is un called for. You can compare obviously. How many Tests has Bumrah played in India? Remember many Tests Pakistan played on were dead wickets like Faisalabad. Bumrah is a great bowler but won't be able to match Wasim, Waqar, Imran. These guys had charisma, sexy looks,  reverse swinging yorkers and mad aggression. Nothing against Bumrah. He will be the greatest Indian bowler but not a patch on Wasim, Waqar or Imran for that matter. 

 

 

Do you want to compare their stats with Bumrah at the same stage of career? Have you seen Bumrah's unplayable yorkers?

 

And why are you bringing things like charisma and sexy looks? We are not talking about wank potential here nor judging you on those things.