cowboysfan Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 10 hours ago, express bowling said: Can't off-hand remember a single match that Bumrah has missed due to fitness related injuries ( Not talking about impact injuries which can happen to anyone and has happened to Bumrah once ,). Minor niggles and stiffnesses after a break, are part and parcel of the life of a pacer. I have seen too many good fast bowler careers derailed by injuries and now he has more work load thanks to IPL. Link to comment
New guy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Vijy said: big gap between rabada and cummins. I expect boom to leapfrog rabid rabada soon enough, but overtaking cummins won't be easy as far as these statistics are concerned. So an interesting fact is that bowlers who have less than 100 wickets are given less points per match than those who have more than 100 wickets. Otherwise Bumrah's ranking points would be way higher Criteria for rankings from ICC: “New players start at zero points, and need to establish themselves before they get full ratings. There is a scale for calculating qualifications. For example, a batsman who has played 10 Test innings gets 70 per cent of his rating (i.e. his rating will be between 0 and 700 points). He doesn’t get 100 per cent until he has played 40 Test innings. A bowler who has taken 30 wickets also gets 70 per cent of his full rating. He doesn’t get 100 per cent until he has taken 100 Test wickets. This means that successful new players can enter the top 30 after just a few Tests, but are unlikely to reach the world top five until they have many Test matches under their belts.” Edited September 4, 2019 by New guy Vijy and express bowling 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, New guy said: So an interesting fact is that bowlers who have less than 100 wickets are given less points per match than those who have more than 100 wickets. Otherwise Bumrah's ranking points would be way higher Interesting ! Link to comment
kohli Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 On 9/1/2019 at 4:19 PM, Insidious said: Rabada is an incredible fast bowler, and so is Cummins. They are no way inferior to bumrah and archer in test cricket. Rabada is a htb like Ashwin.bumrah has already more away wicket then rabada. Rightarmfast and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Stan AF Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Jasprit Bumrah: The complete bowler, whatever the format Virat Kohli has called Jasprit Bumrah the most complete bowler in world cricket, and it's difficult to argue with that, given the sort of numbers that Bumrah has racked up over the last three-and-a-half years. When he made his international debut at the beginning of 2016, Bumrah was seen largely as a limited-overs bowler. He had played 47 T20s and taken 52 wickets at an economy rate of 7.34 till that point, the highlight being a haul of 24 wickets in just 14 games in two - 2015 and 2016 - editions of the Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy, at an average of 14.75 and an economy rate of 6.61. And in two seasons of the 50-over Vijay Hazare Trophy, he had 34 wickets in 14 games at an average of 15.20 and an economy rate of 3.82. Clearly, the call-up to the national limited-overs team was justified. ESPNcricinfo Ltd Bumrah did well in his first two years in international cricket, taking 56 wickets in 31 ODIs and 40 in 32 T20Is, and was rewarded with his Test debut in Cape Town in 2018, getting into the XI ahead of Ishant Sharma and Umesh Yadav. Eyebrows were raised at the time - Bumrah's first-class record was decent but not extraordinary: 89 wickets in 26 matches - but the Indian think tank clearly saw something special in him. Less than two years down the line, the rest of the world is seeing it too. The numbers so far are staggering: in ODIs, he has picked up 103 wickets from 58 games at an average of 21.88 and an economy rate of 4.49; in T20Is, 42 games have fetched him 51 wickets at an economy rate of 6.71 (apart from 82 wickets in 77 IPL games). But it's in Test matches that he has sparkled the brightest, taking 62 wickets from 12 matches at an average of 19.24. With a 20-wicket cut-off in each format, Bumrah is the only bowler to average less than 22 in Tests, ODIs and T20Is in the last ten years. He is also one of only three bowlers to take 50-plus wickets in his first 12 Tests, and 100-plus in his first 58 ODIs; Shane Bond and Brett Lee are the others. ESPNcricinfo Ltd Before going further, though, a caveat. These are still very early days in Bumrah's international career. Great bowlers achieve their greatness by maintaining their standards over several years; Bumrah has been around less than two years as a Test-match bowler. However, in that period, he has played Tests in different conditions, with different balls, and has shown himself to be good enough to adapt and learn quickly, the last evident in his debut Test itself, when he followed a nervy and wayward first-innings show - 1 for 73 - with a much-improved second innings - 3 for 39. His outstanding skill set is complemented by a remarkably even and cool temperament. The superlatives have more than a little justification: in the last 60 years, only three other bowlers have taken 62 or more wickets in their first 12 Tests at a sub-20 average. 62 or more wkts in first 12 tests At sub-20 average, in the last 60 years Bowler Wkts after 12 Tests Average Ian Botham 70 17.06 Vernon Philander 67 17.99 Jasprit Bumrah 62 19.24 Waqar Younis 62 19.34 In his short career so far, Bumrah had played Tests in four different countries - South Africa, England, Australia, West Indies - and has taken a five-for in each of those countries. The fourth five-for - in the first Test against West Indies - came in his 11th Test, which is the fewest ever played by a bowler to take five-fors in four different countries. (There are more than 170 bowlers with 50-plus Test wickets who have played in more than three countries in their first 12 Tests, so the list of bowlers who make the cut is reasonably large.) ESPNcricinfo Ltd Just as batting in the longest format requires an entirely different skillset and mindset compared to the shorter versions, so too does bowling, which is why Bumrah's immediate success in Tests is remarkable. In Tests, a bowler needs plenty of patience, plus the ability to stick to a plan, and hit similar areas repeatedly; T20s, on the other hand, is all about constant variations to keep the batsman guessing, to such an extent that each ball should be different from the previous one. Bumrah has excelled at both. Bumrah's overall Test average of 19.24 and strike rate of 43.7 are impressive enough, but his numbers against the top order is even more special: against the top seven batsmen in a line-up, he averages 19.78, with 47 wickets at a strike rate of 46.3. With a 40-wicket cut-off over the last 15 years, no bowler has a better average against the top-seven batsmen (103 bowlers make this cut-off). Best averages v top 7 batsmen Since Jan 2005 (Min 40 wickets) Bowler Wkts Ave SR Jasprit Bumrah 47 19.78 46.3 Mohammad Abbas 44 23.75 58.7 Stuart Clark 74 24.68 59.9 Pat Cummins 81 24.71 53.5 Vernon Philander 161 24.86 57.5 Mohammad Asif 85 25.54 52.4 Kagiso Rabada 124 26.01 46.8 And here is another stat to show how special a bowler he has become in such a short span of time. In his 12 Tests so far, he has outstanding numbers against both right- and left-handed batsmen, averaging less than 23 against both. In ODIs, the difference in both average and economy rates against right and left-handers is even lesser. In international cricket, there are several bowlers who show a clear preference in terms of bowling to one type of batsmen. Bumrah isn't one of them - he is equally lethal against both. ESPNcricinfo Ltd In his 12 Tests, Bumrah has already nabbed five five-wicket hauls, and a feature of those five-fors has been the rate at which he has got those wickets. Apart from the 6 for 27 and 5 for 7 in the West Indies, he also took 6 for 33 at the MCG and 5 for 54 in Johannesburg. His only five-for which cost more than 60 runs was at Trent Bridge, when he took 5 for 85. In those five-fors, Bumrah averages 7.62 runs per wicket, and 18.6 balls per wicket. With a cut-off of five five-wicket hauls in the last 80 years, only two bowlers have a better average in innings when they have dismissed at least half the side, and four have a better strike rate. Best averages in five-fors Min 5 five-fors, in last 80 years Player 5-fors Ave SR Tony Lock 9 6.63 25.7 Steve Harmison 8 6.91 16.3 Jasprit Bumrah 5 7.62 18.6 Vernon Philander 13 7.78 16.9 Shaun Pollock 16 8.98 25.0 Best strike rates in five-fors Min 5 five-fors, in last 80 years Player 5-fors Ave SR Steve Harmison 8 6.91 16.3 Vernon Philander 13 7.78 16.9 Irfan Pathan 7 9.81 17.4 Shannon Gabriel 5 10.89 17.7 Jasprit Bumrah 5 7.62 18.6 It's true that Bumrah has played each of his 12 Tests outside India, but most of those matches were played in conditions that were good for bowling. That is reflected in the fact that in these 12 Tests, the other bowlers averaged 27.96 to Bumrah's 19.24. So while the conditions were good for bowling, Bumrah's average was still 1.45 times better than the other bowlers who bowled in those matches. How does this compare with other bowlers who have had fantastic starts to their careers - say, in the last 30 years? Among bowlers who took at least 50 wickets in their first 12 Tests, there are ten others with better ratios. The best is Vernon Philander, who was sensational in his first 12 Tests, taking 67 wickets at 17.98, while the other bowlers in those Tests averaged 40.27; that means Philander's average was a whopping 2.24 times better. The others in this list include Waqar Younis, Shane Bond, the two Mohammads - Abbas and Asif - Josh Hazlewood, and Yasir Shah. This is also a function of the quality of other bowlers who played in those matches, and there were some fine bowlers who played in these 12 Tests that Bumrah has played so far - India have had a potent pace (and spin) attack during this period, and South Africa, England, Australia and West Indies have also had top-class bowlers in their line-ups. Other bowlers' ave/ bowler ave their first 12 Tests (Min 50 wkts) Bowler Wkts Ave Others' ave Ratio Vernon Philander 67 17.99 40.27 2.24 Stuart Clark 59 19.34 38.18 1.97 Yasir Shah 76 24.17 41.84 1.73 Mohammad Abbas 61 16.62 28.51 1.71 Mohammad Asif 59 22.56 36.78 1.63 Waqar Younis 62 19.34 30.32 1.57 Anil Kumble 61 24.25 37.70 1.55 Shane Bond 56 20.80 32.20 1.55 Angus Fraser 55 25.20 38.79 1.54 Josh Hazlewood 53 24.17 36.80 1.52 Jasprit Bumrah 62 19.24 27.96 1.45 The bowlers in the above list, though, have all largely played one or two formats. That Bumrah has achieved such excellence in all three formats is what marks him out from most other bowlers going around today. He is still only 25, and if he stays injury free, expect several more highs for him in what should be an exceptional career, in all three formats. https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27551075/complete-bowler-format Edited September 7, 2019 by Stan AF express bowling and Mosher 1 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Stan AF said: Jasprit Bumrah: The complete bowler, whatever the format Virat Kohli has called Jasprit Bumrah the most complete bowler in world cricket, and it's difficult to argue with that, given the sort of numbers that Bumrah has racked up over the last three-and-a-half years. When he made his international debut at the beginning of 2016, Bumrah was seen largely as a limited-overs bowler. He had played 47 T20s and taken 52 wickets at an economy rate of 7.34 till that point, the highlight being a haul of 24 wickets in just 14 games in two - 2015 and 2016 - editions of the Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy, at an average of 14.75 and an economy rate of 6.61. And in two seasons of the 50-over Vijay Hazare Trophy, he had 34 wickets in 14 games at an average of 15.20 and an economy rate of 3.82. Clearly, the call-up to the national limited-overs team was justified. ESPNcricinfo Ltd Bumrah did well in his first two years in international cricket, taking 56 wickets in 31 ODIs and 40 in 32 T20Is, and was rewarded with his Test debut in Cape Town in 2018, getting into the XI ahead of Ishant Sharma and Umesh Yadav. Eyebrows were raised at the time - Bumrah's first-class record was decent but not extraordinary: 89 wickets in 26 matches - but the Indian think tank clearly saw something special in him. Less than two years down the line, the rest of the world is seeing it too. The numbers so far are staggering: in ODIs, he has picked up 103 wickets from 58 games at an average of 21.88 and an economy rate of 4.49; in T20Is, 42 games have fetched him 51 wickets at an economy rate of 6.71 (apart from 82 wickets in 77 IPL games). But it's in Test matches that he has sparkled the brightest, taking 62 wickets from 12 matches at an average of 19.24. With a 20-wicket cut-off in each format, Bumrah is the only bowler to average less than 22 in Tests, ODIs and T20Is in the last ten years. He is also one of only three bowlers to take 50-plus wickets in his first 12 Tests, and 100-plus in his first 58 ODIs; Shane Bond and Brett Lee are the others. ESPNcricinfo Ltd Before going further, though, a caveat. These are still very early days in Bumrah's international career. Great bowlers achieve their greatness by maintaining their standards over several years; Bumrah has been around less than two years as a Test-match bowler. However, in that period, he has played Tests in different conditions, with different balls, and has shown himself to be good enough to adapt and learn quickly, the last evident in his debut Test itself, when he followed a nervy and wayward first-innings show - 1 for 73 - with a much-improved second innings - 3 for 39. His outstanding skill set is complemented by a remarkably even and cool temperament. The superlatives have more than a little justification: in the last 60 years, only three other bowlers have taken 62 or more wickets in their first 12 Tests at a sub-20 average. 62 or more wkts in first 12 tests At sub-20 average, in the last 60 years Bowler Wkts after 12 Tests Average Ian Botham 70 17.06 Vernon Philander 67 17.99 Jasprit Bumrah 62 19.24 Waqar Younis 62 19.34 In his short career so far, Bumrah had played Tests in four different countries - South Africa, England, Australia, West Indies - and has taken a five-for in each of those countries. The fourth five-for - in the first Test against West Indies - came in his 11th Test, which is the fewest ever played by a bowler to take five-fors in four different countries. (There are more than 170 bowlers with 50-plus Test wickets who have played in more than three countries in their first 12 Tests, so the list of bowlers who make the cut is reasonably large.) ESPNcricinfo Ltd Just as batting in the longest format requires an entirely different skillset and mindset compared to the shorter versions, so too does bowling, which is why Bumrah's immediate success in Tests is remarkable. In Tests, a bowler needs plenty of patience, plus the ability to stick to a plan, and hit similar areas repeatedly; T20s, on the other hand, is all about constant variations to keep the batsman guessing, to such an extent that each ball should be different from the previous one. Bumrah has excelled at both. Bumrah's overall Test average of 19.24 and strike rate of 43.7 are impressive enough, but his numbers against the top order is even more special: against the top seven batsmen in a line-up, he averages 19.78, with 47 wickets at a strike rate of 46.3. With a 40-wicket cut-off over the last 15 years, no bowler has a better average against the top-seven batsmen (103 bowlers make this cut-off). Best averages v top 7 batsmen Since Jan 2005 (Min 40 wickets) Bowler Wkts Ave SR Jasprit Bumrah 47 19.78 46.3 Mohammad Abbas 44 23.75 58.7 Stuart Clark 74 24.68 59.9 Pat Cummins 81 24.71 53.5 Vernon Philander 161 24.86 57.5 Mohammad Asif 85 25.54 52.4 Kagiso Rabada 124 26.01 46.8 And here is another stat to show how special a bowler he has become in such a short span of time. In his 12 Tests so far, he has outstanding numbers against both right- and left-handed batsmen, averaging less than 23 against both. In ODIs, the difference in both average and economy rates against right and left-handers is even lesser. In international cricket, there are several bowlers who show a clear preference in terms of bowling to one type of batsmen. Bumrah isn't one of them - he is equally lethal against both. ESPNcricinfo Ltd In his 12 Tests, Bumrah has already nabbed five five-wicket hauls, and a feature of those five-fors has been the rate at which he has got those wickets. Apart from the 6 for 27 and 5 for 7 in the West Indies, he also took 6 for 33 at the MCG and 5 for 54 in Johannesburg. His only five-for which cost more than 60 runs was at Trent Bridge, when he took 5 for 85. In those five-fors, Bumrah averages 7.62 runs per wicket, and 18.6 balls per wicket. With a cut-off of five five-wicket hauls in the last 80 years, only two bowlers have a better average in innings when they have dismissed at least half the side, and four have a better strike rate. Best averages in five-fors Min 5 five-fors, in last 80 years Player 5-fors Ave SR Tony Lock 9 6.63 25.7 Steve Harmison 8 6.91 16.3 Jasprit Bumrah 5 7.62 18.6 Vernon Philander 13 7.78 16.9 Shaun Pollock 16 8.98 25.0 Best strike rates in five-fors Min 5 five-fors, in last 80 years Player 5-fors Ave SR Steve Harmison 8 6.91 16.3 Vernon Philander 13 7.78 16.9 Irfan Pathan 7 9.81 17.4 Shannon Gabriel 5 10.89 17.7 Jasprit Bumrah 5 7.62 18.6 It's true that Bumrah has played each of his 12 Tests outside India, but most of those matches were played in conditions that were good for bowling. That is reflected in the fact that in these 12 Tests, the other bowlers averaged 27.96 to Bumrah's 19.24. So while the conditions were good for bowling, Bumrah's average was still 1.45 times better than the other bowlers who bowled in those matches. How does this compare with other bowlers who have had fantastic starts to their careers - say, in the last 30 years? Among bowlers who took at least 50 wickets in their first 12 Tests, there are ten others with better ratios. The best is Vernon Philander, who was sensational in his first 12 Tests, taking 67 wickets at 17.98, while the other bowlers in those Tests averaged 40.27; that means Philander's average was a whopping 2.24 times better. The others in this list include Waqar Younis, Shane Bond, the two Mohammads - Abbas and Asif - Josh Hazlewood, and Yasir Shah. This is also a function of the quality of other bowlers who played in those matches, and there were some fine bowlers who played in these 12 Tests that Bumrah has played so far - India have had a potent pace (and spin) attack during this period, and South Africa, England, Australia and West Indies have also had top-class bowlers in their line-ups. Other bowlers' ave/ bowler ave their first 12 Tests (Min 50 wkts) Bowler Wkts Ave Others' ave Ratio Vernon Philander 67 17.99 40.27 2.24 Stuart Clark 59 19.34 38.18 1.97 Yasir Shah 76 24.17 41.84 1.73 Mohammad Abbas 61 16.62 28.51 1.71 Mohammad Asif 59 22.56 36.78 1.63 Waqar Younis 62 19.34 30.32 1.57 Anil Kumble 61 24.25 37.70 1.55 Shane Bond 56 20.80 32.20 1.55 Angus Fraser 55 25.20 38.79 1.54 Josh Hazlewood 53 24.17 36.80 1.52 Jasprit Bumrah 62 19.24 27.96 1.45 The bowlers in the above list, though, have all largely played one or two formats. That Bumrah has achieved such excellence in all three formats is what marks him out from most other bowlers going around today. He is still only 25, and if he stays injury free, expect several more highs for him in what should be an exceptional career, in all three formats. https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27551075/complete-bowler-format Virat Kohli has called Jasprit Bumrah the most complete bowler in world cricket, and it's difficult to argue with that, given the sort of numbers that Bumrah has racked up over the last three-and-a-half years. When he made his international debut at the beginning of 2016, Bumrah was seen largely as a limited-overs bowler. He had played 47 T20s and taken 52 wickets at an economy rate of 7.34 till that point, the highlight being a haul of 24 wickets in just 14 games in two - 2015 and 2016 - editions of the Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy, at an average of 14.75 and an economy rate of 6.61. And in two seasons of the 50-over Vijay Hazare Trophy, he had 34 wickets in 14 games at an average of 15.20 and an economy rate of 3.82. Clearly, the call-up to the national limited-overs team was justified. ESPNcricinfo Ltd Bumrah did well in his first two years in international cricket, taking 56 wickets in 31 ODIs and 40 in 32 T20Is, and was rewarded with his Test debut in Cape Town in 2018, getting into the XI ahead of Ishant Sharma and Umesh Yadav. Eyebrows were raised at the time - Bumrah's first-class record was decent but not extraordinary: 89 wickets in 26 matches - but the Indian think tank clearly saw something special in him. Less than two years down the line, the rest of the world is seeing it too. The numbers so far are staggering: in ODIs, he has picked up 103 wickets from 58 games at an average of 21.88 and an economy rate of 4.49; in T20Is, 42 games have fetched him 51 wickets at an economy rate of 6.71 (apart from 82 wickets in 77 IPL games). But it's in Test matches that he has sparkled the brightest, taking 62 wickets from 12 matches at an average of 19.24. With a 20-wicket cut-off in each format, Bumrah is the only bowler to average less than 22 in Tests, ODIs and T20Is in the last ten years. He is also one of only three bowlers to take 50-plus wickets in his first 12 Tests, and 100-plus in his first 58 ODIs; Shane Bond and Brett Lee are the others. ESPNcricinfo Ltd Before going further, though, a caveat. These are still very early days in Bumrah's international career. Great bowlers achieve their greatness by maintaining their standards over several years; Bumrah has been around less than two years as a Test-match bowler. However, in that period, he has played Tests in different conditions, with different balls, and has shown himself to be good enough to adapt and learn quickly, the last evident in his debut Test itself, when he followed a nervy and wayward first-innings show - 1 for 73 - with a much-improved second innings - 3 for 39. His outstanding skill set is complemented by a remarkably even and cool temperament. The superlatives have more than a little justification: in the last 60 years, only three other bowlers have taken 62 or more wickets in their first 12 Tests at a sub-20 average. 62 or more wkts in first 12 tests At sub-20 average, in the last 60 years Bowler Wkts after 12 Tests Average Ian Botham 70 17.06 Vernon Philander 67 17.99 Jasprit Bumrah 62 19.24 Waqar Younis 62 19.34 In his short career so far, Bumrah had played Tests in four different countries - South Africa, England, Australia, West Indies - and has taken a five-for in each of those countries. The fourth five-for - in the first Test against West Indies - came in his 11th Test, which is the fewest ever played by a bowler to take five-fors in four different countries. (There are more than 170 bowlers with 50-plus Test wickets who have played in more than three countries in their first 12 Tests, so the list of bowlers who make the cut is reasonably large.) ESPNcricinfo Ltd Just as batting in the longest format requires an entirely different skillset and mindset compared to the shorter versions, so too does bowling, which is why Bumrah's immediate success in Tests is remarkable. In Tests, a bowler needs plenty of patience, plus the ability to stick to a plan, and hit similar areas repeatedly; T20s, on the other hand, is all about constant variations to keep the batsman guessing, to such an extent that each ball should be different from the previous one. Bumrah has excelled at both. Bumrah's overall Test average of 19.24 and strike rate of 43.7 are impressive enough, but his numbers against the top order is even more special: against the top seven batsmen in a line-up, he averages 19.78, with 47 wickets at a strike rate of 46.3. With a 40-wicket cut-off over the last 15 years, no bowler has a better average against the top-seven batsmen (103 bowlers make this cut-off). Best averages v top 7 batsmen Since Jan 2005 (Min 40 wickets) Bowler Wkts Ave SR Jasprit Bumrah 47 19.78 46.3 Mohammad Abbas 44 23.75 58.7 Stuart Clark 74 24.68 59.9 Pat Cummins 81 24.71 53.5 Vernon Philander 161 24.86 57.5 Mohammad Asif 85 25.54 52.4 Kagiso Rabada 124 26.01 46.8 And here is another stat to show how special a bowler he has become in such a short span of time. In his 12 Tests so far, he has outstanding numbers against both right- and left-handed batsmen, averaging less than 23 against both. In ODIs, the difference in both average and economy rates against right and left-handers is even lesser. In international cricket, there are several bowlers who show a clear preference in terms of bowling to one type of batsmen. Bumrah isn't one of them - he is equally lethal against both. ESPNcricinfo Ltd In his 12 Tests, Bumrah has already nabbed five five-wicket hauls, and a feature of those five-fors has been the rate at which he has got those wickets. Apart from the 6 for 27 and 5 for 7 in the West Indies, he also took 6 for 33 at the MCG and 5 for 54 in Johannesburg. His only five-for which cost more than 60 runs was at Trent Bridge, when he took 5 for 85. In those five-fors, Bumrah averages 7.62 runs per wicket, and 18.6 balls per wicket. With a cut-off of five five-wicket hauls in the last 80 years, only two bowlers have a better average in innings when they have dismissed at least half the side, and four have a better strike rate. Best averages in five-fors Min 5 five-fors, in last 80 years Player 5-fors Ave SR Tony Lock 9 6.63 25.7 Steve Harmison 8 6.91 16.3 Jasprit Bumrah 5 7.62 18.6 Vernon Philander 13 7.78 16.9 Shaun Pollock 16 8.98 25.0 Best strike rates in five-fors Min 5 five-fors, in last 80 years Player 5-fors Ave SR Steve Harmison 8 6.91 16.3 Vernon Philander 13 7.78 16.9 Irfan Pathan 7 9.81 17.4 Shannon Gabriel 5 10.89 17.7 Jasprit Bumrah 5 7.62 18.6 It's true that Bumrah has played each of his 12 Tests outside India, but most of those matches were played in conditions that were good for bowling. That is reflected in the fact that in these 12 Tests, the other bowlers averaged 27.96 to Bumrah's 19.24. So while the conditions were good for bowling, Bumrah's average was still 1.45 times better than the other bowlers who bowled in those matches. How does this compare with other bowlers who have had fantastic starts to their careers - say, in the last 30 years? Among bowlers who took at least 50 wickets in their first 12 Tests, there are ten others with better ratios. The best is Vernon Philander, who was sensational in his first 12 Tests, taking 67 wickets at 17.98, while the other bowlers in those Tests averaged 40.27; that means Philander's average was a whopping 2.24 times better. The others in this list include Waqar Younis, Shane Bond, the two Mohammads - Abbas and Asif - Josh Hazlewood, and Yasir Shah. This is also a function of the quality of other bowlers who played in those matches, and there were some fine bowlers who played in these 12 Tests that Bumrah has played so far - India have had a potent pace (and spin) attack during this period, and South Africa, England, Australia and West Indies have also had top-class bowlers in their line-ups. Other bowlers' ave/ bowler ave their first 12 Tests (Min 50 wkts) Bowler Wkts Ave Others' ave Ratio Vernon Philander 67 17.99 40.27 2.24 Stuart Clark 59 19.34 38.18 1.97 Yasir Shah 76 24.17 41.84 1.73 Mohammad Abbas 61 16.62 28.51 1.71 Mohammad Asif 59 22.56 36.78 1.63 Waqar Younis 62 19.34 30.32 1.57 Anil Kumble 61 24.25 37.70 1.55 Shane Bond 56 20.80 32.20 1.55 Angus Fraser 55 25.20 38.79 1.54 Josh Hazlewood 53 24.17 36.80 1.52 Jasprit Bumrah 62 19.24 27.96 1.45 The bowlers in the above list, though, have all largely played one or two formats. That Bumrah has achieved such excellence in all three formats is what marks him out from most other bowlers going around today. He is still only 25, and if he stays injury free, expect several more highs for him in what should be an exceptional career, in all three formats. https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27551075/complete-bowler-format It's too early in test for Gumrah to call him great. There are many bowlers in this list who flattered to deceive. His real test will be injuries and how he comes back after them. I remember he had a serious knee injury in 2014-15 and it took him sometime get back at his best. Link to comment
Vijy Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: I wonder what happens if one relaxes the cutoff to more than 15 yrs. For instance, it will be interesting to see how Ambrose, McGrath, Donald, Marshall, Garner and Lillee stack up against Bum-Bum express bowling 1 Link to comment
Tibarn Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Bumrah's SR : is 43.7 overall currently and he has 62 wickets http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/93276.html Only Steyn, Marshall, Donald, Waqar, and Trueman ended their careers with 300+ wickets and a below 50 SR. Link to comment
Easter_bunny Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 On 9/4/2019 at 11:18 AM, New guy said: So an interesting fact is that bowlers who have less than 100 wickets are given less points per match than those who have more than 100 wickets. Otherwise Bumrah's ranking points would be way higher This rule applied to everyone until they took 100 wickets so it would could doesnt work since if it would for BumRah then sl it will for others who are on top.. If he will keep perfoming the way he is then he will be on top soon Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) A Times of India article .... Stress fracture has nothing to do with Jasprit Bumrah's action, says Ashish Nehra Some excerpts .... Ashish Nehra, who knows a thing or two about injury management, on Sunday insisted that India's premier fast bowler Jasprit Bumrah 's stress fracture has got nothing to do with his unorthodox action. Former India left-arm speedster Nehra is confident that Bumrah will be as lethal post his comeback as he was prior to injury. "Stress fracture is unrelated to action and we must get our concepts clear. He doesn't need to change his action and if he tries to do that, it won't be great. Let me assure you, when he comes back, he can bowl with the same action, intensity and pace," Nehra said. "His action is not that unconventional as it is made out to be. The alignment of his body at the time of delivery is perfect. "The only aspect that is not copybook is his left hand (works like a pivot), which doesn't go up. Even then, his action is 10 times better than Malinga. Malinga's knees, back leg bends giving a look of a javelin-thrower," said Nehra, known for his in-depth technical knowledge. "In case of stress fracture, there is no time-frame. Jasprit might feel good in the next two months and may not feel good even after six months. So only the player knows when his body is feeling cent percent match-ready," he said. The rehabilitation is very important as this is a type of back injury that doesn't involve any surgical process. "Stress fracture doesn't have medication. It's only proper rest and rehabilitation, unlike disc injury or any nerve tissue injury," he said. "Stress fracture is detected through bone scans and not MRI. In bone scan plates, you will see doctors pointing at various spots. These are stress spots. "Fast bowling is a strenuous activity. Do a bone scan of any bowler and you will see those (stress) spots. Do you stop playing? It's just that you have to manage it well, as some injuries are chronic," he said. He said that too much noise is made out of workload management and according to Nehra, the more the player plays, the better he gets. "At this stage of Bumrah's career, the more he plays, the better he will get at it. Jassi (Jasprit) is only 25 or 26 years old. He is playing international cricket for three years and he knows his body well. He will come back stronger and the pace in his deliveries will remain intact," Nehra signed off. https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.timesofindia.com/sports/cricket/news/stress-fracture-has-nothing-to-do-with-jasprit-bumrahs-action-says-ashish-nehra/amp_articleshow/71359870.cms Edited September 30, 2019 by express bowling MK55, Mosher and Suhaan 3 Link to comment
Vk1 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 we all admire Bumrah a lot and his numbers are really impressive but it is way too early to write such articles on him.. Yes he had success in all formats and in all countries but longevity and some acceptable cut-off should be considered before writing such articles.. Real McCoy 1 Link to comment
Aiden Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Stress fracture ended the career of Muhammad Zahid & forced Waqar Younis to change his action before the deadly 5 years of his career. Bumrah seems to be going the same way. Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share Posted December 25, 2019 (edited) This is the advantage of having a strong BCCI President like Sourav Ganguly ... who was a top player too and understands player concerns and can take tough decisions. https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.timesofindia.com/v/s/m.timesofindia.com/sports/cricket/news/sourav-ganguly-steps-in-no-ranji-trophy-game-for-jasprit-bumrah/amp_articleshow/72962454.cms%3famp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#ampf= Coming back to the game after almost a three-month break, the bowler had been asked to head to Surat this week to play an Elite Group 'A' game against Kerala. While Bumrah had "no issues whatsoever" playing the match, he personally believed that the comeback process shouldn't be a very hectic one. Instead, his objective was to work on a relatively smoother return that would hold him in good stead for a long year of cricket beginning January 2020. The bowler is learnt to have shared his concerns with Sourav Ganguly and BCCI secretary Jay Shah and the duo instructed him to concentrate on white ball cricket for now. Sources also said that the national selection panel advised the Gujarat team management that since Bumrah is just returning from injury he should be made to bowl only four to eight overs in a day during the match. But the Gujarat team management didn't cede to the national selectors' request as they felt that playing a bowler who will bowl only a maximum of eight overs in a day wouldn't help their cause. Ganguly then chose to keep protocol aside and allowed Bumrah to continue with his break. The pacer will now directly play the T20 International series against Sri Lanka. "There's much time for the Test series in New Zealand. In fact, the first Test begins on February 21 next year. Until then, he doesn't play any red ball cricket. So there was no hurry. He can start with bowling four overs in a T20 game for now and play a Ranji Trophy match possibly closer to when it's time to fly to New Zealand," sources in the know told TOI. Edited December 25, 2019 by express bowling Ankit_sharma03, themask, Vijy and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 On 9/30/2019 at 10:46 AM, Vk1 said: we all admire Bumrah a lot and his numbers are really impressive but it is way too early to write such articles on him.. Yes he had success in all formats and in all countries but longevity and some acceptable cut-off should be considered before writing such articles.. Adam Voges averages 61 in 20 tests. I think he averaged 70 + after around 12 tests. Some even started making comparisons with Bradman. Then came the SL and SA series and due to bad patch he got dropped. Bumrah's challenges are whether he can overcome injuries and continue this performances over a decent test match sample of 50 odd tests. Still a long way to go for a promising bowler who has performed marvelously well in a shirt test career. BCCI are giving him enough rest by not picking him in some series. The next 5 years (provided he plays enough tests) would give a complete picture. Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 1 hour ago, express bowling said: This is the advantage of having a strong BCCI President like Sourav Ganguly ... who was a top player too and understands player concerns and can take tough decisions. https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.timesofindia.com/v/s/m.timesofindia.com/sports/cricket/news/sourav-ganguly-steps-in-no-ranji-trophy-game-for-jasprit-bumrah/amp_articleshow/72962454.cms%3famp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#ampf= Coming back to the game after almost a three-month break, the bowler had been asked to head to Surat this week to play an Elite Group 'A' game against Kerala. While Bumrah had "no issues whatsoever" playing the match, he personally believed that the comeback process shouldn't be a very hectic one. Instead, his objective was to work on a relatively smoother return that would hold him in good stead for a long year of cricket beginning January 2020. The bowler is learnt to have shared his concerns with Sourav Ganguly and BCCI secretary Jay Shah and the duo instructed him to concentrate on white ball cricket for now. Sources also said that the national selection panel advised the Gujarat team management that since Bumrah is just returning from injury he should be made to bowl only four to eight overs in a day during the match. But the Gujarat team management didn't cede to the national selectors' request as they felt that playing a bowler who will bowl only a maximum of eight overs in a day wouldn't help their cause. Ganguly then chose to keep protocol aside and allowed Bumrah to continue with his break. The pacer will now directly play the T20 International series against Sri Lanka. "There's much time for the Test series in New Zealand. In fact, the first Test begins on February 21 next year. Until then, he doesn't play any red ball cricket. So there was no hurry. He can start with bowling four overs in a T20 game for now and play a Ranji Trophy match possibly closer to when it's time to fly to New Zealand," sources in the know told TOI. Seems like a gradual planned increase in workload for a recovering Bumrah. Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share Posted December 25, 2019 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Straight Drive said: Seems like a gradual planned increase in workload for a recovering Bumrah. Yes. Bowling 20 overs a day after returning from a long injury layoff, is not a good idea. Bumrah's state association did not listen to the selectors about managing his workload ... and Bumrah himself wanted to gradually increase his workload. Edited December 25, 2019 by express bowling Mosher, tweaker and Straight Drive 3 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 6 hours ago, express bowling said: Yes. Bowling 20 overs a day after returning from a long injury layoff, is not a good idea. Bumrah's state association did not listen to the selectors about managing his workload ... and Bumrah himself wanted to gradually increase his workload. If TM thought he can bowl only 4 to 8 overs in a day in a Ranji game, I wonder if he is fit enough to bowl 4 overs under the intense pressure of international cricket. Better thing would have to let him ease into Ranji trophy matches in January and be fit enough to bowl 20-25 overs a day by the NZ tour. He's not bowled a single delivery in competitive cricket for over 4 months now. After such a long injury layoff, bowling straight in an international match does not sound right at all. tweaker 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share Posted December 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: If TM thought he can bowl only 4 to 8 overs in a day in a Ranji game, I wonder if he is fit enough to bowl 4 overs under the intense pressure of international cricket. Better thing would have to let him ease into Ranji trophy matches in January and be fit enough to bowl 20-25 overs a day by the NZ tour. He's not bowled a single delivery in competitive cricket for over 4 months now. After such a long injury layoff, bowling straight in an international match does not sound right at all. Don't think Bumrah is taking a T20I match in a bilateral series against SL as an intense pressure situation. He himself wants to come back via this mode. Ranji captains have a habit of bowling good pacers to the ground if wickets are not coming easily. And it would be very risky to subject Bumrah to this now. Mosher 1 Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Terrible precedent set by ganguly,he has made it clear that LOI cricket is more important than the kiwi tests,Bumrah should have played in the ranjis to become match fit. Link to comment
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