Hardik Pandya in a three man pace attack is a huge risk

[the don]

Hardik is a handy cricketer but i doubt his bowling is polished enough to be the 3rd seamer in a 3 man pace attack .

I think it puts alot of pressure on the other two pacers and leaves no room for any of them to have an off day .

It will especially be a problem overseas when the spinners will be nullified . 

 

Edited October 29, 2017 by the don

[Ankit_sharma03]

thats y we need a 6th bowler as well , its high time we get in krunal n shankar even gowtham

[the don]

4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

thats y we need a 6th bowler as well , its high time we get in krunal n shankar even gowtham

Has to be a pace bowler .

Spinners will more often than not be redundant overseas .

Trust hardik's batting and bring in another pacer.

[maniac]

Have to agree...Pandya needs to find his niche soon and I think it is his batting 

[velu]

he will surely improve 

[Ankit_sharma03]

14 minutes ago, the don said:

Has to be a pace bowler .

Spinners will more often than not be redundant overseas .

Trust hardik's batting and bring in another pacer.

have to keep both options, every combination shud be available 

Even in overseas spinners wud be be needed- eg 3 seamer will play + hardik now if i add shankar thats to much on many days so we need spinners for variety and overrate as well 

[Vilander]

This is true esp in a flat wicket. Bhuv kumar does not know how to bowl above club level in flat wickets with new ball. So if you bring in harddick after him the batsmen get hard on.

[Temujin Khaghan]

Give Hardik as much as bowling before 2019wc because he surely is going to play our entire campaign in that series.

 

I don't give two hoots about any other odi tournament other than the world cup I don't care about the champions trophy either. The world cup is the real deal.

 

Why waste that spot on some spinner if it is Hardik who has to play the world cup.

 

Rohit

Dhawan

Kohli 

-

-

Hardik

Dhoni

Chahal

Shami

Bhuvi

Bumrah

 

As of this moment, These are the confirmed slots in the WC for me in the opening match...

 

Only the positions 4 and 5 need to be confirmed...

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, the don said:

Has to be a pace bowler .

Spinners will more often than not be redundant overseas .

 

 

1)  Solution is to use a 3rd specialist pacer in place of the 2nd spinner, while playing outside Asia.

 

2) Wrist spinners are doing well outside Asia too, and we have 2.

 

3) Hardik Pandya is looking tired to me in the last 5 matches. He has been batting and bowling non-stop in all 3 formats.  Before that , he was bowling quite well.

 

4) We should look for a stronger 6th bowler like Shankar or Krunal, to cover for bad days.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 29, 2017 by express bowling

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

2) Wrist spinners are doing well outside Asia too, and we have 2.

Ill say we have 3.......karn sharma shud be counted in now

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

3) Hardik Pandya is looking tired to me in the last 5 matches. He has been batting and bowling non-stop in all 3 formats.  Before that , he was bowling quite well

He shud be rested in SL odi series which will give us a chance to test - shankar, krunal n gowtham 

 

26 minutes ago, Temujin Khaghan said:

Give Hardik as much as bowling before 2019wc because he surely is going to play our entire campaign in that series.

Agreed

 

[express bowling]

31 minutes ago, Temujin Khaghan said:

Give Hardik as much as bowling before 2019wc because he surely is going to play our entire campaign in that series.

 

I don't give two hoots about any other odi tournament other than the world cup I don't care about the champions trophy either. The world cup is the real deal.

 

Why waste that spot on some spinner if it is Hardik who has to play the world cup.

 

Rohit

Dhawan

Kohli 

-

-

Hardik

Dhoni

Chahal

Shami

Bhuvi

Bumrah

 

As of this moment, These are the confirmed slots in the WC for me in the opening match...

 

Only the positions 4 and 5 need to be confirmed...

 

Vijay Shankar .... proper batsman .... big hitter .... medium-fast  swing bowler with a good bouncer .... would be an ideal No.5 in England. Can be a good 6th bowler.

 

I would prefer KL Rahul at 4.

 

We need to get fast-bowler Md. Siraj ready too as he is a genuine wicket-taker with a quick yorker.

Edited October 29, 2017 by express bowling

[urnotserious]

1 hour ago, the don said:

Hardik is a handy cricketer but i doubt his bowling is polished enough to be the 3rd seamer in a 3 man pace attack .

I think it puts alot of pressure on the other two pacers and leaves no room for any of them to have an off day .

It will especially be a problem overseas when the spinners will be nullified . 

 

On Indian pitches, probably any 3rd seamer is a struggle but so is the first seamer like Bhuvi. 

 

Elsewhere? He's fine.

[SK_IH]

I agree with OP and I like to see following side in future

Rohit

Dhawan

Kohli

Hardik

Dhoni

Krunal

Washington Sundar/Pant

Bhuvi

Chahal/Kuldeep

Bumrah

Shame/Siraj/Another Seamer

 

I have seen this general tendency with Hardik of throwing his wkt away when looking for quick runs straight away,him being a regular no.4 can be beneficial in many ways

Also Dhoni has to improve a lot with regards to his striking but he will be in squad for sure it seems

And about Washington Sundar,we have given so many chances to Jadhav and I see Sundar Washington bringing something similar to the team what Jadhav brings,tight bowling and hitting if needed.And I have more confidence in Sundar's temperament than Jadhav anyways.

I would also like to see Iyer and Vijay Shankar in the mix if things as backups.

 

Our team can be so strong with few more tweaks ,like what we have done with our bowling unit but yesterday's useless win will go a long way in ensuring status quo remains.

[rkt.india]

9 hours ago, the don said:

Hardik is a handy cricketer but i doubt his bowling is polished enough to be the 3rd seamer in a 3 man pace attack .

I think it puts alot of pressure on the other two pacers and leaves no room for any of them to have an off day .

It will especially be a problem overseas when the spinners will be nullified . 

 

Overseas, we will play only one spinner. You can consider Pandya as 5th bowler rather than third seamer.

[Rightarmfast]

I do believe this is just testing water with this attack. They dont have a strike bowler in the attack yet. And a lot can change over a period of one a half years.

[CoverDrive]

Have Shami as the third seamer in the team and then get 6/7 overs from Pandya and then slip in few from Jadhav

[wanted_desi]

If you can't trust his bowling, then you should have able to trust his batting in top 5. Which is far away from reality at the moment. He is more of a bowling all-rounder right now, so he should be able to get 10 overs every match. 

[sandeep]

18 hours ago, the don said:

Hardik is a handy cricketer but i doubt his bowling is polished enough to be the 3rd seamer in a 3 man pace attack .

I think it puts alot of pressure on the other two pacers and leaves no room for any of them to have an off day .

It will especially be a problem overseas when the spinners will be nullified . 

 

He's not the 3rd seamer though.  He's the 5th bowling option behind 2 seamers and 2 front-line spinners.  

[the don]

1 minute ago, sandeep said:

He's not the 3rd seamer though.  He's the 5th bowling option behind 2 seamers and 2 front-line spinners.  

What ?? That makes him the 3rd seamer . Unless India play Shami and trust Hardik the batsman a lot more .

I guess the new spinners aren't as good with the bat as Ashwin and Jadeja

[rkt.india]

3 hours ago, wanted_desi said:

If you can't trust his bowling, then you should have able to trust his batting in top 5. Which is far away from reality at the moment. He is more of a bowling all-rounder right now, so he should be able to get 10 overs every match. 

No, he is a batting alrounder and he has proved that on most occasion bhe has batted up the order. He was never a bowling alrounder. I have more trust in his batting than Karthik, Jadhav, manish combined.