rkt.india Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 21 minutes ago, Sooda said: We havent helped ourselves, preparations could have been much better, and the difference between a decent show and embarassment. Feels kind of piecemeal. I remember before England in 2011 some guys played in WI, others had been rested after the WC and came to England straight from the IPL effectively with barely any warm up matches. This isnt quite as bad. But Jasprit and Hardik have played very little of late , them and the likes of Dhawan, Rohit , Rahane are going in off the back off LOI matches and a 2 day warm up match The SL series wasnt a bad idea in itself, would have been good to go into SA tests after SL tests and then a decent break followed by a camp then at least two 3 day warm up matches in SA. The NZ series could have been scrapped and Aus series made shorter to fit it in. they could scrapped SL LOIs and problem was solved. Player could have had 2 weeks of rest after SL tests and then reached SA on 20 and had played two 3-day warmups in SA. Link to comment
Stuge Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 we will kniw this in future for sure . Link to comment
Sooda Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, rkt.india said: they could scrapped SL LOIs and problem was solved. Player could have had 2 weeks of rest after SL tests and then reached SA on 20 and had played two 3-day warmups in SA. Indeed. But that requires foresight, planning and priotisation. All those things are secondary to $$$ for the board Link to comment
bowl_out Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Let's learn to catch at slips first.. Then we'll talk about winning overseas. maniac, Gollum, Sgattick10 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
sandeep Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 14 hours ago, Sooda said: Indeed. But that requires foresight, planning and priotisation. All those things are secondary to $$$ for the board The primary reason for India's compressed schedule for the SA tour is the BCCI's decision to ensure that SA Board got payback by forcing them to give up a boxing day test match with India. Once you impose a January or post Dec 26th start date for the tour, its difficult to squeeze in much time for a warm-up game. Gollum 1 Link to comment
Temujin Khaghan Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 On 08/12/2017 at 2:23 AM, maniac said: I sometimes want Dravid to be our coach....only drawback is he will go the other extreme will experiment by dropping Kohli and playing some u-19 player and drop Saha and make Karun Nair keep. Yep dravid will go full retard. nikred 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Very very hard. Not kidding. De Kock will become a monster against India. Link to comment
Silva Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 I can see the optimism. This squad is very good on paper, every batsman is averaging 40+ with multiple centuries, the 2 spiners are averaging under 26 with the ball, 2 pace bowlers averaging under 31 and another 2 pace bowlers who have cobinmed taken 300+ wickets at 35. Add to that a pretty goodkeeper in saha, a fast-medium all rounder and one of the best limted overs bowlers. This squad is probably the best Indian squad Ive seen in terms of not having dead weight in it. beetle 1 Link to comment
Pollack Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Bowling looks a bit weak. Umesh back to being erratic. Shami may get injured anytime. Cannot predict about Bhuvi. Ishant is crap. Pandya is a rookie but I think he may do well with bowling than expected from him. So it's on our batting. Vijay-Rahul-Dhawan-Pujara-Kohli-Rahane and even Rohit is a very capable batting unit. So we have a chance to do good. Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Dravid is the perfect person in an advisory/development/coaching role... but I wouldn't like him to be team coach because as a figure head he lacks aggression when needed. I remember the 2006 South Africa series was easily there for the taking but he just went for the conservative go for the draw method and lost anyway. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 If Suranga Lakmal can wreak havoc on a slightly helpful condition against this line up think about Vernon Philander, Rabada, Steyn Mone Morkel. Morkel gave a torrid time to Gambhir by bowling round the wicket. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 7 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: If Suranga Lakmal can wreak havoc on a slightly helpful condition against this line up think about Vernon Philander, Rabada, Steyn Mone Morkel. Morkel gave a torrid time to Gambhir by bowling round the wicket. We won't get that kind of a pitch anywhere. That can unique pitch. Link to comment
Laaloo Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, Prince_ said: Always respected him as a player but it seems that dravid has somehow lost his mind. Its almost certain that India will get hammered by suffers no matter what.The only question is how badly will they get hammered. A team that can't dismiss DICKWELLA is expecting to take 20 wickets against a team that has players like abd, amla and de kock Dickwella played better in India than those 3 jabronis did in 2015 in India. Link to comment
Laaloo Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 11 minutes ago, Prince_ said: The types of doctored wickets India dished out to saffer in that 2015 series, if saffer do the same kohli will get the taste of another England tour If saffer dishes the same, they will get a taste of joburg 2006 and durban 2010. Link to comment
philcric Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Prince_ said: Always respected him as a player but it seems that dravid has somehow lost his mind. Its almost certain that India will get hammered by suffers no matter what.The only question is how badly will they get hammered. A team that can't dismiss DICKWELLA is expecting to take 20 wickets against a team that has players like abd, amla and de kock Dickwella played 6 innings and was dismissed in 5 of them. 35, 27, 24, 4, 0, 44* ... average of 27 Link to comment
Sooda Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 On 09/12/2017 at 12:54 AM, sandeep said: The primary reason for India's compressed schedule for the SA tour is the BCCI's decision to ensure that SA Board got payback by forcing them to give up a boxing day test match with India. Once you impose a January or post Dec 26th start date for the tour, its difficult to squeeze in much time for a warm-up game. My understanding was that SA really wanted India to play boxing Day match, but because of the way the SL Series was scheduled, India could not get to SA by then Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 India had far better batting sixes in the past. This side has two faces. One side is hopeless in helpful condition. Link to comment
adi B Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 On 08/12/2017 at 9:30 AM, rkt.india said: Quality quicks. Shami and Ishant were there last time too. Quality spinners Jadeja and Ashwin went there last time too. Even BK was there last time, played ODIs and struggled on a green pitch at Wanderers. But last time (as always) we went in with 4 bowlers,this time pandya is definitely playing so there's your 5th bowler who is essential to make sure the rest of the 3 seamers are not exhausted Link to comment
adi B Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) On topic I do believe that India will win this time,India have all the arsenal and ancillaries ,just that they need to click as a unit Edited December 10, 2017 by adi B Link to comment
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