sergio04 Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 whom would u choose if u have to choose only one of them in odi? ms dhoni or virat kohli
Trichromatic Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 With Dhoni you get every significant advantage you have with Kohli, same can't be said otherwise. You won't get a player who performs in final or difficult batting conditions with Kohli. New guy, Pollack, King Tendulkar and 3 others 3 1 2
King Tendulkar Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: With Dhoni you get every significant advantage you have with Kohli, same can't be said otherwise. You won't get a player who performs in final or difficult batting conditions with Kohli. Move this thread to jokes section and this poster to jokes section lol
raki05 Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: With Dhoni you get every significant advantage you have with Kohli, same can't be said otherwise. You won't get a player who performs in final or difficult batting conditions with Kohli. You are saying as if dhoni has performed in majority of final. As far as i remember only wc11.
velu Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 dhoni can keep and lead the team as well sergio04 1
mishra Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 I will take MSD ahead of Kohli. Kohli is neither honest nor a leader. sergio04 1
mishra Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, velu said: dhoni can keep and lead the team as well Exactly. We can easily find alternative for Kohli which will be good enough to win odis.Its also possible to get alternative to MSD who is as good or may be slightly better than him with bat, But same guy to have Dhoniconda brain and lead the side. Its next to impossible. India will never produce another Dhoni. Another Kohli. I am certain there is one in touching distance in domestic circle even now. It just that Kohli isnt letting selectors look at it. Edited December 10, 2017 by mishra Shunya and velu 2
Trichromatic Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 Yes, another thing to keep in mind is that Dhoni is AR (wk+batsman+successful ODI captain). As a player he is already ahead of Kohli Shunya, Jimmy Cliff and velu 3
Jimmy Cliff Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 While currently there is no comparison overall MSD has been the better or the more valuable player (unlike in T20s he has actually had an ATG career in ODIs). Kohli is obviously the better batsman.
Trichromatic Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 16 minutes ago, raki05 said: You are saying as if dhoni has performed in majority of final. As far as i remember only wc11. Averages 45 in 14 finals he played. Scored 4 fifities and won most important final in history of Indian ODI cricket. He was also MoM in 1 final where he didn't score a 50. Kohli is yet to score half century in final and he probably only Indian batsman with so many matches failing to do so. Dhoni is easily more clutch player than Kohli overall. As long as matches are league matches or bilaterals on flat pitches, Kohli is more clutch player than Dhoni, irrespective of the situation of the match. But not overall. sergio04 1
velu Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 coming back to the topic , both are crappy and usless players.. UV is the rela playa sergio04 and express bowling 1 1
raki05 Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Trichromatic said: Averages 45 in 14 finals he played. Scored 4 fifities and won most important final in history of Indian ODI cricket. He was also MoM in 1 final where he didn't score a 50. Kohli is yet to score half century in final and he probably only Indian batsman with so many matches failing to do so. Dhoni is easily more clutch player than Kohli overall. As long as matches are league matches or bilaterals on flat pitches, Kohli is more clutch player than Dhoni, irrespective of the situation of the match. But not overall. Are these 14 final what you are referring to is an iic final or CB series? In addition to that only playing in final should be the criteria than I think fakhar zaman and all ll be consider all time great. Can you please compare their average in all the icc events which they played?
Trichromatic Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, raki05 said: Are these 14 final what you are referring to is an iic final or CB series? In addition to that only playing in final should be the criteria than I think fakhar zaman and all ll be consider all time great. Can you please compare their average in all the icc events which they played? Yes, that's what I clearly meant in other posts, ONLY finals. It was obvious, wasn't it?
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 Kohli is a better batsman Dhoni competes with him as a player coz he is a package- keeper, gr8 odi captain, finisher sergio04 and beetle 2
sergio04 Posted December 10, 2017 Author Posted December 10, 2017 dhoni is more valueable to any team than virat kohli Pollack 1
Shunya Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 Dhoni is one of the first name you put while selecting all time Indian ODI XI. No competition. As a package(wk+batsman+captain) its almost impossible to find someone like him. True MVP candidate. Kohli, Sachin, Yuvi, Ganguly, Dravid, Azhar, Sehwag, Rohit, Shikhar, Gauti, etc all will have fair competition to book their spot in the XI. And we will keep on churning lot of good batsman in future as well. velu 1
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