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Mariyam Grand Master

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12 hours ago, Gollum said:

Will be stuck with this clown for 5 tests in Eng :facepalm:because according to KKK/Bot he has aggression and a good yoyo score.

In all fairness, he did play a very good test innings yesterday. He frustrated the bowlers with his astute defense.

 

I always knew that Pandya was using the IPL as net practice for the England tests. You should be happy.

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1 hour ago, mancalledsting said:

What alternative do you suggest for overseas tests? 

I am not against him in tests per se, just that he shouldn't be a guaranteed starter. Give him a couple of matches and if he can't do jack, play 4 quicks+Ash/Jaddu or Ash, Jaddu and 3 quicks...depending on conditions. Need to be flexible because this guy is really inconsistent and IMO is not outstanding in either discipline. 

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4 hours ago, Gollum said:

I am not against him in tests per se, just that he shouldn't be a guaranteed starter. Give him a couple of matches and if he can't do jack, play 4 quicks+Ash/Jaddu or Ash, Jaddu and 3 quicks...depending on conditions. Need to be flexible because this guy is really inconsistent and IMO is not outstanding in either discipline. 

Ash and Jaddu overseas in tests together?? I thought you knew better than this. That move is straight out of 'MSD's/Srini mama's CSK tactical t20 test captaincy manual' 

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49 minutes ago, mancalledsting said:

Ash and Jaddu overseas in tests together?? I thought you knew better than this. That move is straight out of 'MSD's/Srini mama's CSK tactical t20 test captaincy manual' 

We are playing tests in late summer, there is a possibility of help for spin. I am not advocating for 2 spinners  every match, I said based on conditions. Obviously if it is a Lord's 2014 type green top or complete patta (600 meets 500 kinda decks) I will prefer 4 pacers. Besides when did MSD ever play both Ashwin and Jadeja in the same test match overseas? There is no doubt that this spin duo is a force to reckon with in red ball cricket, they compliment each other beautifully and both aren't dummies with the bat either. In the 2016 home series on flattish wickets our spinners caused all sorts of trouble for them, the scars aren't healed for the Poms.

 

Eng will play 7-8 lefties and Ashwin's bowling in SA was encouraging, he thoroughly outbowled Maharaj and Lyon looked like a dodo compared to the Saffer a month later. Come to think of it if we knew how to catch, Ashwin basically handed the 2nd test on a platter for us, that match ideally should have been dead and buried after the 1st 2 innings with us taking a handy 150 run lead, alas!!!! Jaddu IMO is a better bet than Pandya in 80% of situations because he can choke the runs from one end and may be on odd occasions even bowl a match winning spell, Pandya is yet to show he can win a test match with the ball. Besides Jaddu isn't inferior to Pandya with the bat, he has improved a great deal in the last 2 years and will get you consistent 30s coming in at no 8 rather than Pandya's occasional 90 followed by 9 single digit scores. 

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His plan was to play out Rashid and hit in the next 2 overs. The plan was good, but execution went awry - I dont blame him for the thought process.  I believe he is one of the MVPs in our team today.. Dont judge a player by his appearance; he has already played a number of match saving and match winning innings. 

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38 minutes ago, kruiser said:

His plan was to play out Rashid and hit in the next 2 overs. The plan was good, but execution went awry - I dont blame him for the thought process.  I believe he is one of the MVPs in our team today.. Dont judge a player by his appearance; he has already played a number of match saving and match winning innings. 

No one plays out a maiden when greater than 12rpo is required. You either trust your partner or try finding boundaries yourself.

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If Pandya wore glasses, had a normal haircut and said namaste, many would be rooting for him

 

Could be getting the hate for being “different” 

 

Don’t care about it Pandya. Enjoy your life and cricket :thumbsup: 

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On 4/24/2018 at 3:13 PM, Garuda said:

He must stop flying in the mumbai clouds and come back to earth. Hardik. stop cutting your hair like a panwala and start working hard. You represent the Indian team. YOu should be proud that you are representing a nation of over a billion people. Dont ever take your luck seriously. you are judged by your national performances not by this bambi franchise. Get real.

Lol Dhoni has the mahmood haircut.

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Hardik is Cricket's Disha Patani.
He is there on the silver screen, is popular , has great name great recognition,endorses several brands , dates the best girls, has the best style sense (sarcasm), blah blah blah....but then when it comes actually to the real stuff, one will be kept scratching his/her head as to what achievements he have done as a cricketer.
I do not follow cricket regularly , but I know how good bowler Kumble was or how many centuries Sachin made.
How diligent was Rahul Dravid or Dada's brilliant captaincy.
I get that Hardik is apparently a good fielder but I really can't remember him for his cricketing creds as much as I know him for him dating that gori chick Elli Avram.
Down the years , he will be simply known as a "cricketer" who is more seen in variety shows like Bigg Boss and Jhalak Dikhla Jaa.
Kinda like Kambli and Jadeja but atleast they had better cricketing records than this Pandya.

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Thank you AsterixI am Urmi from Kolkata...not exactly a hardcore cricket fan like other ICF ers but I keep tab on the game Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk 

 

 

 

 

Welcome again... there’s quite a few Bongs here, like @malcolm merlyn,[mention=17646]Muloghonto[/mention],[mention=4943]Texy[/mention] & myself included...   

 

 

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Welcome again... there’s quite a few Bongs here, like Muloghonto, Texy & myself included...


Nice to meet you....Hope I will have fun discussing cricket with you guys.

Hardik is too raw for international cricket IMO.
I was checking his bio 2-3 days back and I was like *ing shocked at how scant his domestic record was.
Like really!!!!
He was just a random Club cricketer who managed to wrestle into domestic scene and eventually into the IPL.
And that one fateful last ball sixer+being a Mumbai Indians player endorsed by "The God" Sachin Tendulkar basically propelled him to a permanent spot in the Indian National Team.
(we all know how the Nita Ambani-Bunty Sajdeh clique work)
Especially when there are more skilled and talented players rotting in the domestic and India A level.
Probably even a CAB 1st division player has more skill than this ShowPony Pandya.
BCCI should have groomed and polished Hardik more in the domestic level and then India A level .
Then he might have been a moderately good player.
But he was unfortunately pushed into the highest level when he was absolutely not ready for that level of grind and now the fame has got into his head.
Cricket is not always about talent- it is equally about skill.
And I believe domestic experience help building that skill.
Yes, selectors need to back a player initially in the national level- but you can never build basic skills at that level.
It is all about consistent performance and showcase of your cricketing expertise there.
Dude , it is not FIITJEE/Aakash/Kota-but the real JEE-Advanced.
Have you ever heard people failing JEE-Advanced constantly to become expert in Physics/Chemistry/Maths ?
No, they take specialised tuitions for it.
Mock tests can help you understand your weaknesses and help you re-analyze yourself so that you can ace the main exam.
Similarly , international cricket I feel is the level where the players will have to give the best to win the match and not use them as their training camps.
You're in it to win it.
Meanwhile , the BCCI is trying to make Pandya who doesn't even deserve to play state level domestic cricket into the next Kapil Dev by retaining him for years as a permanent feature of the Playing XI in all 3 formats.
I never knew a player could become a Test regular by having so less Ranji experience while Wasim Jaffer could not make it despite being such a successful Ranji veteran.SMH.
Well, some people do improve after staying in the national circuit for long enough but Hardik is currently too busy+distracted to play cricket right now LMAO.
To be honest , at this point I feel he is just warming the seat for "Son of God" Arjun Tendulkar.
That guy is apparently a fast bowling all rounder who is being groomed by Papa Tendulkar to get into The National Cricket Team.
And it is way easier to push Arjun in as a replacement for a deadweight Pandya in the excuse of non-performance as opposed to replace a more deserving player.
Anyways people are ready on their single toe to see Hardik go (I don't think he'll improve much-rather his cricketing skills are actually regressing, especially batting) plus Arjun seems to be a decent enough age group cricketer, good with both the bat and ball.



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Nice to meet you....Hope I will have fun discussing cricket with you guys.

Hardik is too raw for international cricket IMO.
I was checking his bio 2-3 days back and I was like *ing shocked at how scant his domestic record was.
Like really!!!!
He was just a random Club cricketer who managed to wrestle into domestic scene and eventually into the IPL.
And that one fateful last ball sixer+being a Mumbai Indians player endorsed by "The God" Sachin Tendulkar basically propelled him to a permanent spot in the Indian National Team.
(we all know how the Nita Ambani-Bunty Sajdeh clique work)
Especially when there are more skilled and talented players rotting in the domestic and India A level.
Probably even a CAB 1st division player has more skill than this ShowPony Pandya.
BCCI should have groomed and polished Hardik more in the domestic level and then India A level .
Then he might have been a moderately good player.
But he was unfortunately pushed into the highest level when he was absolutely not ready for that level of grind and now the fame has got into his head.
Cricket is not always about talent- it is equally about skill.
And I believe domestic experience help building that skill.
Yes, selectors need to back a player initially in the national level- but you can never build basic skills at that level.
It is all about consistent performance and showcase of your cricketing expertise there.
Dude , it is not FIITJEE/Aakash/Kota-but the real JEE-Advanced.
Have you ever heard people failing JEE-Advanced constantly to become expert in Physics/Chemistry/Maths ?
No, they take specialised tuitions for it.
Mock tests can help you understand your weaknesses and help you re-analyze yourself so that you can ace the main exam.
Similarly , international cricket I feel is the level where the players will have to give the best to win the match and not use them as their training camps.
You're in it to win it.
Meanwhile , the BCCI is trying to make Pandya who doesn't even deserve to play state level domestic cricket into the next Kapil Dev by retaining him for years as a permanent feature of the Playing XI in all 3 formats.
I never knew a player could become a Test regular by having so less Ranji experience while Wasim Jaffer could not make it despite being such a successful Ranji veteran.SMH.
Well, some people do improve after staying in the national circuit for long enough but Hardik is currently too busy+distracted to play cricket right now LMAO.
To be honest , at this point I feel he is just warming the seat for "Son of God" Arjun Tendulkar.
That guy is apparently a fast bowling all rounder who is being groomed by Papa Tendulkar to get into The National Cricket Team.
And it is way easier to push Arjun in as a replacement for a deadweight Pandya in the excuse of non-performance as opposed to replace a more deserving player.
Anyways people are ready on their single toe to see Hardik go (I don't think he'll improve much-rather his cricketing skills are actually regressing, especially batting) plus Arjun seems to be a decent enough age group cricketer, good with both the bat and ball.



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Next Kapil Dev. An interesting point you bought forward. Seems that you have probably watched Kapil play. Think most over here have not watched Kapil Dev, so comparisons are done very easily. It cannot be avoided, after all it is a forum and everyone has their own views. I do agree that Hardik is nowhere near the class of Kapil. He is not even in class of Irfan  Pathan yet imo. But the problem is the next best is Vijay Shankar. Beggars beleif that. The cupboard is bare in that aspect. It will be interesting to see how the all rounder void is filled. Hope he steps up else we are doomed with Vijay Shankar coming in.

 

 

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Next Kapil Dev. An interesting point you bought forward. Seems that you have probably watched Kapil play. Think most over here have not watched Kapil Dev, so comparisons are done very easily. It cannot be avoided, after all it is a forum and everyone has their own views. I do agree that Hardik is nowhere near the class of Kapil. He is not even in class of Irfan  Pathan yet imo. But the problem is the next best is Vijay Shankar. Beggars beleif that. The cupboard is bare in that aspect. It will be interesting to see how the all rounder void is filled. Hope he steps up else we are doomed with Vijay Shankar coming in.

 

 

Kapil dev is already pissed off at the comparison .He might slap him if the comparison and his bad performance continues.:p:

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