LORD_analyst Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Clarke said: And then King Kohli does a klpd on every Indian cricket fan by dropping Rahul and playing Dhawan and Pujara. kohli selection jokes are bit too overrated....he was right in not selecting bhuvi in 2nd test in saf, and not playing rahane....there's a very accurate reason for that. 2nd test in af was absolute flat deck....bhuvi would have been carted there, bhuvi in 1st test picked up most wickets on green pitch with new ball, he struggles with old ball due to lack of pace, bounce, reverse-swing. rahane was in a really bad mindset and his confidence was down.....was struggling badly in tests, while rohit seemed confident in nets- u can't pick players on perception, current form is a big factor too... Moochad and vishalvirsingh 2 Link to comment
LORD_analyst Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, Samcric said: Pujara for the 1st test. Dhawan looks clueless against balls that move around a bit whether swing or seam. Dukes move a bit all day. Will be a huge bet. He will probably come good once or twice in 10 innings if he were to play all games. I am not sure if that is a chance worth taking. But then if Pujara plays like the way he played county cricket, then we are truly doomed. For the sake of Indian Cricket, let's hope Pujara scores a fifty in 1st test. summed up pretty well.... Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Just now, Trichromatic said: Yes, that's why I said that it's a myth being propagated on ICF that Dhawan is some kind of flat track bully. Dhawan is a LO bully, specifically ODI, he isn't even that good in T20s. beetle 1 Link to comment
Lannister Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: posters on this forum are unbelievable, just before SA series ie 3 test ago people were cry how bias kohli is because he doesnt rate Pujara now they dont even want him in the team. By the end of this series i bet same will happen to Rahul. If he cannot perform in the most important tours, then what is he doing in this Indian team? He has already played 55 test matches and he's still not sure about his game. beetle and LORD_analyst 2 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, LORD_analyst said: kohli selection jokes are bit too overrated....he was right in not selecting bhuvi in 2nd test in saf, and not playing rahane....there's a very accurate reason for that. 2nd test in af was absolute flat deck....bhuvi would have been carted there, bhuvi in 1st test picked up most wickets on green pitch with new ball, he struggles with old ball due to lack of pace, bounce, reverse-swing. rahane was in a really bad mindset and his confidence was down.....was struggling badly in tests, while rohit seemed confident in nets- u can't pick players on perception, current form is a big factor too... Bhuvi was 2nd highest scorer in 3rd test. Without his batting we would not have won 3rd test either. beetle, Gollum and Switchblade 3 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 First test - Pandya and Bhuvi added 99 runs for 7th wicket reducing the deficit to 95 runs from 194. 2nd inn - Ashwin and Bhuvi added 49 runs for 8th wicket. Result India lost by 72 runs. 3rd test - Bhuvi scored 30 runs of last 44 scored for last 5 wickets. 2nd inn - added 55 runs with Rahane for 7th wicket. Result India won by 63 runs. Lannister, SandeepMotta, Gollum and 1 other 4 Link to comment
raki05 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 2 hours ago, UnknownGenius said: I would replace both. Might as well play extra bowler. Anyway they do nothing Vijay DK Rahul Kohli Jinx Ashwin Pant Jadejja Thakur (can bat) Two number 11's speedheat, Lannister, Switchblade and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Gollum Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Greentop and/or inclement weather-> Pujara because he can may be blunt the brand new cherry. Dhawan won't last 10 balls but with Che there is at least a 20% chance that he will make life easier for Kohli-Rahane. Stats column may not show but Che was instrumental in our Lord's 2014 victory LINK Lifeless patta (2014 Trent Bridge, MCG/SCG 2014-15)-> Dhawan, 10% chance of him firing if all stars align. Patta with chances of turn later on (Adelaide 2014 or the 2 Eng-Pak tests in 2016 which greenbros won)-> Pujara Choice is between devil and deep blue sea here. I would prefer Karthik and Pant to get slotted in but this is Kohli-Shastri we are talking about.....they may as well drop Vijay, KLR and Rahane to get in Dhawan, Che and Thakur (last one in Neil Johnson role i.e. opening batter and bowler, for his intent and aggression) . philcric 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, LORD_analyst said: will play dhawan on flat pitch , and pujara on green pitch. also, in 2nd innings, the grass on pitch will burn off....can bet a million dollars that in those conditions where there is no grass, dhawan will edge out pujara, everytime. @express bowling?? This management uses horses for courses policy only for bowlers. Dhawan scoring runs on a flat track would mean him playing on green tracks too. ( Like Rahane was dropped for Rohit in S.A. because he scored against SL. ) I don't wan't Dhawan playing any test matches. And we need to develop a batter who can potentially replace Pujara outside Asia. Trying someone like Nair at 3 or DK in the top 3 and Pant at 6 ... may not be any worse than playing Pujara in his current form in England. Edited July 28, 2018 by express bowling beetle 1 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Can we have 2 Rahuls in the lineup, pretty sure the other guy will do better than either of these F/HTBs Link to comment
speedheat Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, UnknownGenius said: I would replace both. Might as well play extra bowler. Anyway they do nothing Vijay DK Rahul Kohli Jinx Ashwin Pant Jadejja Thakur (can bat) Two number 11's Jadeja n thakur in a testmatch ?? that too outside asia?? Bhang pi ke post karta hai kya?? Edited July 28, 2018 by beetle Link to comment
Temujin Khaghan Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Keeping dhawan and kicking out pujara is a 2 step process 1. Step one - make KLR open with vj 2. Step two - promote rahane to no.3 and demote dhawan as the new no.5 Link to comment
sriniwu Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 dhawan and rahul should open..vijay can be rested..the pujaras' of the world are required to blunt the bowling and do the ugly job so that the attractive strokemakers around them can prosper and shine Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Samcric said: Pujara for the 1st test. Dhawan looks clueless against balls that move around a bit whether swing or seam. Dukes move a bit all day. Will be a huge bet. He will probably come good once or twice in 10 innings if he were to play all games. I am not sure if that is a chance worth taking. But then if Pujara plays like the way he played county cricket, then we are truly doomed. For the sake of Indian Cricket, let's hope Pujara scores a fifty in 1st test. Nair didn't look convincing in that India A series so Pant is the only other option. There is no need to play both of them . Have KL, Vijay , RAHANE , virat, DK & Pant . I think on form this is the best possible line up. However i will still give one test to Chepu . If fails then the above 6 will play on rest of the matches . Link to comment
LORD_analyst Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 hour ago, sriniwu said: dhawan and rahul should open..vijay can be rested sriniwu and cowboysfan 1 1 Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 If you guys saw how Dhawan got out in the tour match you will not be having this conversation he cannot handle swing from a gentle medium pacer, how will hec handle Anderson and broad?. The ball didn't even swing that much but he missed it by a mile. Link to comment
adi B Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Pujara over dhawan in these conditions. All these approximation of dhawan scoring quick 100 on his day are 0! A flat pitch in English condition is flat for them not for our batsmen ,dhawan ain't scoring anything against 4 quality quicks , let's get real .pujara can at least grind out 20s and tire the bowlers a bit Sgattick10 and LORD_analyst 2 Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 I just had a CONF Call with Virat and we finalised the final 11, I had to accept his terms.. The Test 11 will be- Murli VJ Dhawan KL Rahul Virat Kohli Ajinkya Karthik Hardik Ashwin Shammi Umesh Ishant.... I thought that i will make you guys know the 11 before the test Begins... I tried my level best to Push Kuldeep but Virat was clear in his demand for Ashwin. We also had a bit of conversation over dhawan and Pujara but we both agreed to give dhawan a chance first. Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Replace Dhawan with Shaw Replace Pujara with Vihari Link to comment
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