England vs India, 5th Test, 7th-11th Sept - The Oval

[zen]

58 minutes ago, prasen82 said:

Australia needs 4 Pacers and one spinner.i would treat ashwin or jadeja as ar 

Ashwin, Jadeja, and Bhuvi are not ARs who can occupy 6 or 7 batting position in most conditions and be consistent enough. They are more like Kumble, Srinath, Warne, etc., i.e. bowlers who can bat too. Their utility is in relatively strengthening our batting by doing well in 8-11 positions, while they contribute primarily with the ball.

 

Playing them in higher position by labeling them as ARs may only add pressure on them, which could impact their primary role as bowlers. You know how Ashwin turned in to an enemy after that lack lustre bowling spell in the last game. Their primary role is well defined and have to deliver in that first and foremost. 

 

Recent record in Aus:

 

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Primary team India

Opposition team Australia

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Start of match date between 8 Sep 2008 and 8 Sep 2018

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Player	Span	Mat	Runs	HS	Bat Av	100	Wkts	BBI	Bowl Av	5	Ct	St	Ave Diff
Mohammed Shami	2014-2015	3	67	34	22.33	0	15	5/112	35.80	1	0	0	-13.46
RG Sharma	2014-2015	3	173	53	28.83	0	1	1/35	45.00	0	2	0	-16.16
Z Khan	2011-2012	4	69	35	8.62	0	15	4/77	31.80	0	0	0	-23.17
R Ashwin	2011-2015	6	276	62	27.60	0	21	4/105	54.71	0	5	0	-27.11
UT Yadav	2011-2015	7	71	30	10.14	0	25	5/93	43.96	1	2	0	-33.81
KV Sharma	2014-2014	1	8	4*	8.00	0	4	2/95	59.50	0	0	0	-51.49
I Sharma	2011-2014	7	51	16	5.66	0	14	3/38	63.21	0	1	0	-57.54
R Vinay Kumar	2012-2012	1	11	6	5.50	0	1	1/73	73.00	0	0	0	-67.49
VR Aaron	2014-2014	2	11	4	3.66	0	5	2/136	72.40	0	0	0	-68.73
B Kumar	2015-2015	1	50	30	50.00	0	1	1/46	168.00	0	0	0	-117.99
V Sehwag	2011-2012	4	198	67	24.75	0	1	1/20	157.00	0	3	0	-132.24

Edited September 8, 2018 by zen

[Wall2018]

6 hours ago, SK_IH said:

Now he ll say the scoreline could have easily 4-1 in their favour but still the boys were better than players of previous generation.All that with a smug face and arrogant tone.

Yeah... Consistent in losing...

[nevada]

8 hours ago, dandaroy said:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA .... I stopped watching and just checked the score now. What a bunch of losers! I hope India lose and lose BIG! That is the only way there is any hope for changes, although I am not optimistic. 

 

I am rooting for a colossal embarrassment! 

To pre-empt this, bevda and Kohli have been spouting bs about how hard they competed, how hurt they are etc. Both should resign after this match to kick off real change.

[NameGoesHere]

When many were declaiming Pant as the second coming of Gilchrist, I'd refused to believe the hype.  But now that he's being termed a hack, I'll say give him at least a series more.  Let him have  5-10 Tests in a row to make his case.  Saha was my first choice, but with his injury, well...

 

Pant's neither the Next Best Thing (ever), nor is he a hack (for now). Just a possible talent who could do reasonably well (and 'reasonably well' is the standard we can expect at best given the wk field of talent right now) if given opportunities, so IMO he should be given them to make his case convincingly- one way or another. 

 

Right now we're all seeing him get dissected on the big stage.  We need to see how he recovers.

[Suhaan]

28 minutes ago, NameGoesHere said:

When many were declaiming Pant as the second coming of Gilchrist, I'd refused to believe the hype.  But now that he's being termed a hack, I'll say give him at least a series more.  Let him have  5-10 Tests in a row to make his case.  Saha was my first choice, but with his injury, well...

 

Pant's neither the Next Best Thing (ever), nor is he a hack (for now). Just a possible talent who could do reasonably well (and 'reasonably well' is the standard we can expect at best given the wk field of talent right now) if given opportunities, so IMO he should be given them to make his case convincingly- one way or another. 

 

Right now we're all seeing him get dissected on the big stage.  We need to see how he recovers.

Its very hard for a debutant to make a mark in England,this should be taken into consideration where all the so called batting stalwarts have failed ,they have meekly surrendered,yes Pant should have done a little better but the benefit of doubt should be with him in England,he should be picked in the home series against Windies

[GautiMaan]

8 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

we lost 3-1 with Pandya and lost 2-1 is SA..time to move on. Vihari with bat is much more assured than Pandya with bat. So , it proves.

We would have lost 5-0 without Pandya.

[Switchblade]

 

 

[Switchblade]

Bumrah said: “We were in a good position at 190-odd for seven, but they batted well and we couldn’t capitalize. So it is a combination of both. We tried hard to bowl in the right areas but we couldn’t bowl that well today and they also applied well.”

[Forever Indian]

Hope Vihari scores a 50 and makes a case for himself. He is someone who can definitely score runs in India, so can replace Rahane at 5 if he scores decent runs overseas.

[Temujin Khaghan]

Jadeja looks more focussed than pant did in 5 innings...

[Temujin Khaghan]

Shot.

[Temujin Khaghan]

Is it too much to hope that these two will see off the morning session?

[Temujin Khaghan]

We should ask vihari to open in the second innings?

[Temujin Khaghan]

I think ICF is in funeral mode... :/

[Forever Indian]

4 minutes ago, Temujin Khaghan said:

We should ask vihari to open in the second innings?

Nah, let him settle in middle order first.

[sandsaims]

Vihari has already looked better than Rahane did all series.

[Forever Indian]

Just now, sandsaims said:

Vihari has already looked better than Rahane did all series.

Defenitely showing more grit and determination. 

[Tibarn]

Sir Jadeja ready for a triple century 

[CG]

Jadeja Looks better Than Dhawan.

[prasen82]

3 minutes ago, Tibarn said:

Sir Jadeja ready for a triple century 

Are you english. Why the jinx