mishra Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 saik, UrmiSinhaRay and Shunya 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted_User_1 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) On 10/16/2018 at 9:20 PM, coffee_rules said: Bank Manager being thrashed by a women who asked for sexual favors in return for loan approval. SM is crudely effective. Not constitutional, but effective in societal reform. A lot of swear words in Kannada... Maaro maaro suar ko. Chamri nocho peelo khoon! Edited October 19, 2018 by dandaroy UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted_User_1 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/17/2018 at 8:43 PM, Number said: My theory is that big stars are not as sexually frustrated as these directors/producers are, so many girls are ready to do anything with them. So their needs are met. Hence less chance that they will be named. Not necessarily true. Sexual abuse and assault has also to do with yielding power and misuse of power. Look at Harvey Weinstein. He was one of the most powerful men in Hollywood. Don't you think he would have had the best escorts possible every night if he wanted to? Same example can be given of a lot of powerful people who are sexual predators like Trump. UrmiSinhaRay and Sachinism 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted_User_1 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) On 10/18/2018 at 3:04 AM, rkt.india said: she is as fake and narcissistic as it gets. She also tries to take her personal revenge in the garb of feminism. You need to read the rebuttal by Vikas Bahl's ex-wife against Kangana. http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/vikas-bahls-ex-wife-blasts-kangana-ranaut-questions-medias-coverage-metoo/ I never commented on her character as a decent human being. She appears to be a complicated woman and one tough to have a relationship with, but she is the first woman I have seen in Bollywood to take on the male dominated culture and the Bollywood establishment head on. And she is still one of the A-list actresses in the industry who can actually act. She is still there, establishment males have not been able to sideline her like others who speak up. So she is doing something right. She talks like she does not give a flying phuck. Why should women have to suffer and keep quiet and men get a free reign? If you think the whole global society is not male dominated, you are living in delusion. Do fake accusations happen for personal vendetta? Yes it does, but the overwhelming majority of sexual abuse/harrassment claims are true because men and women are wired different way and this is coming from me, a man! Regarding her claim against Vikas Bahl, I do not think she said that Vikas assaulted her. In response to the sexual allegation against Vikas made by another woman (which is most likely true), she said that in retrospect it corroborates her finding because of the behaviors she experienced and his stories of sexual conquests while he was married and mocking others for not being like him. In essence, she is saying that she does not feel, him hugging her and smelling her hair, although uncomfortable, amounted to sexual abuse for her even though it made her uncomfortable, but she can put two and two together and deduce that he could be a sexual abuser. Edited October 19, 2018 by dandaroy UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Singh bling said: So women has right to wear bikni but men has to dress properly .I guess all feminist men on ICF should now cover themselves head to toe to proove their Feminism Actually if they stopped at parading around i would be okay. Personally i know few old men (in their 60s) who misbehaved with their maids and they had to quit. This is more common than you think. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Actually if they stopped at parading around i would be okay. Personally i know few old men (in their 60s) who misbehaved with their maids and they had to quit. This is more common than you think. misbehaving is separate issue, Even men in trousers can misbehave she is asking men to cover themselves while she herself has done shows fully naked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4xC18PkUDo mishra and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted_User_1 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 45 minutes ago, Singh bling said: misbehaving is separate issue, Even men in trousers can misbehave she is asking men to cover themselves while she herself has done shows fully naked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4xC18PkUDo you are confusing two different issues. Yes, the show is a bit over the top, and I would not go and watch her naked do a show, but it is voluntary and there is not abuse of power. No one is forcing anyone in the audience to come watch her or watch it online. However, if a maid is working in your house and you are parading around semi-naked, it is an abuse of power. It is a workplace for her and you are forcing her to be uncomfortable in her workplace. It is classic workplace harrasment. Would you parade around semi naked or would like someone to do that while you are at work? The same would hold for women as well. If this woman was your coworker and came to work semi-naked or in a skimpy outfit then that would be workplace harassment as well. I distinctly remember when I was early in my carrer work at Ford Motor Company, there was a black woman who wore very tight outfits that showed her curves aggressively and people complained, some of the complaints came from other female workers. She was approached by HR to wear more modest clothing and I have no problem with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, dandaroy said: you are confusing two different issues. Yes, the show is a bit over the top, and I would not go and watch her naked do a show, but it is voluntary and there is not abuse of power. No one is forcing anyone in the audience to come watch her or watch it online. However, if a maid is working in your house and you are parading around semi-naked, it is an abuse of power. It is a workplace for her and you are forcing her to be uncomfortable in her workplace. It is classic workplace harrasment. Would you parade around semi naked or would like someone to do that while you are at work? The same would hold for women as well. If this woman was your coworker and came to work semi-naked or in a skimpy outfit then that would be workplace harassment as well. I distinctly remember when I was early in my carrer work at Ford Motor Company, there was a black woman who wore very tight outfits that showed her curves aggressively and people complained, some of the complaints came from other female workers. She was approached by HR to wear more modest clothing and I have no problem with that. So How is it OK to wear exposing clothes in markets and mall but not ok to wear it at workplace? If it ismaking people uncomfortable around because of your clothes then women should stop wear exposing clothes in markets , malls Also all places in world are workplace for someone,like guards , sweepers, waiters etc .By your logic women should be first one to shun exposing clothing Edited October 19, 2018 by Singh bling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted_User_1 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 10 hours ago, Singh bling said: So How is it OK to wear exposing clothes in markets and mall but not ok to wear it at workplace? If it ismaking people uncomfortable around because of your clothes then women should stop wear exposing clothes in markets , malls Also all places in world are workplace for someone,like guards , sweepers, waiters etc .By your logic women should be first one to shun exposing clothing What? LOL ... There is big difference between workplace and and public place like a market or a mall. You are more than welcome to wear a tight fitting short and sleeveless t-shirt, or take the buttons off your shirt showing your hairy chest in a market . Trust me, no one will come and tell you to button it up. Now if you whip out your penis, then it is a matter of public decency and indecent exposure. I do not think the women who are wearing a skimpy outfits (although it may not be what you approve of) are whipping out their titties or showing her privates! Showing a bit of cleavage is accepted in today's modern society (we do not live in medieval times), but not in a workplace. And for men who are complaining, there is nothing preventing you from showing your cleavage (like showing your toned body or wearing really tight jeans showing off the tight butt or other muscles). Trust me, no one will tell you it is not appropriate. If you do not understand the difference between being in a publice place and a workplace, there I can't make you understand it. If you are uncomfortable someone wearing clothes you do not approve of in a public place, do not look at them or move to another area. In a workplace, you have to be there and you may have to work with that person. The level of comfort needed in a workplace is much more important than in a public place like a mall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 6 hours ago, dandaroy said: What? LOL ... There is big difference between workplace and and public place like a market or a mall. You are more than welcome to wear a tight fitting short and sleeveless t-shirt, or take the buttons off your shirt showing your hairy chest in a market . Trust me, no one will come and tell you to button it up. Now if you whip out your penis, then it is a matter of public decency and indecent exposure. I do not think the women who are wearing a skimpy outfits (although it may not be what you approve of) are whipping out their titties or showing her privates! Showing a bit of cleavage is accepted in today's modern society (we do not live in medieval times), but not in a workplace. And for men who are complaining, there is nothing preventing you from showing your cleavage (like showing your toned body or wearing really tight jeans showing off the tight butt or other muscles). Trust me, no one will tell you it is not appropriate. If you do not understand the difference between being in a publice place and a workplace, there I can't make you understand it. If you are uncomfortable someone wearing clothes you do not approve of in a public place, do not look at them or move to another area. In a workplace, you have to be there and you may have to work with that person. The level of comfort needed in a workplace is much more important than in a public place like a mall. Every place is a work place for some. How public place cant be a work place? May not be for you but for others. In all public places, you will find people working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 7:15 AM, Franco Vazquez said: The question is that what is the solution to this? Should there be a return of old-age segregation or what? bachchey, try changing the tv channel to old-age people, nevermind telling them who they can or cannot see. Dadi or dada will stuff that belan where the sun doesn't shine if you try to control her comings and goings. Switchblade and tweaker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Every place is a work place for some. How public place cant be a work place? May not be for you but for others. In all public places, you will find people working. public place is any space that is regulated by the government. A workplace is an area regulated or managed by ONE entity- be it property management firm/single corporation/division of a government, etc. vastly different. Switchblade and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 https://m.timesofindia.com/city/kanpur/up-sadhu-cuts-off-private-part-over-love-affair-allegations/articleshow/66292836.cms Not every allegation is true. Poor Sadhu UrmiSinhaRay and Rasgulla 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 3 hours ago, mishra said: https://m.timesofindia.com/city/kanpur/up-sadhu-cuts-off-private-part-over-love-affair-allegations/articleshow/66292836.cms Not every allegation is true. Poor Sadhu There are easier ways. Just stay away from women. Do not touch them, appropriately or inappropriately. Do not pass on stupid lewd remarks, in person or on SM. Just simply stay away if you cannot respect them. I hope the guy recovers. He could have easily gone on public hunger strike. It would have served the purpose. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrmiSinhaRay Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Hardik doesn't have any idea about Consent Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk The Dark Horse, Laaloo, Moochad and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 16 hours ago, dandaroy said: What? LOL ... There is big difference between workplace and and public place like a market or a mall. You are more than welcome to wear a tight fitting short and sleeveless t-shirt, or take the buttons off your shirt showing your hairy chest in a market . Trust me, no one will come and tell you to button it up. Now if you whip out your penis, then it is a matter of public decency and indecent exposure. I do not think the women who are wearing a skimpy outfits (although it may not be what you approve of) are whipping out their titties or showing her privates! Showing a bit of cleavage is accepted in today's modern society (we do not live in medieval times), but not in a workplace. And for men who are complaining, there is nothing preventing you from showing your cleavage (like showing your toned body or wearing really tight jeans showing off the tight butt or other muscles). Trust me, no one will tell you it is not appropriate. If you do not understand the difference between being in a publice place and a workplace, there I can't make you understand it. If you are uncomfortable someone wearing clothes you do not approve of in a public place, do not look at them or move to another area. In a workplace, you have to be there and you may have to work with that person. The level of comfort needed in a workplace is much more important than in a public place like a mall. A home is not like regular workplace.It is a place for which you spent crores of rupees or pay thousands in rent so you can live comfortably.Most maids work in it part time so logic of comparing it with other workplace is wrong. Moreover in malls guards , salesman , sweepers work in much larger numbers . If I apply your logic then a man should go wearing kachcha and banyan in mall rather than resting it in his home because his maid is feeling uncomfortable. So charity begins at home you and your fellow male feminists please ask Radhika vaz what clothes you should wear At home or outside .If she told you people you to cover head to toe please do that and give whatever logic you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 32 minutes ago, Singh bling said: A home is not like regular workplace.It is a place for which you spent crores of rupees or pay thousands in rent so you can live comfortably.Most maids work in it part time so logic of comparing it with other workplace is wrong. Moreover in malls guards , salesman , sweepers work in much larger numbers . If I apply your logic then a man should go wearing kachcha and banyan in mall rather than resting it in his home because his maid is feeling uncomfortable. So charity begins at home you and your fellow male feminists please ask Radhika vaz what clothes you should wear At home or outside .If she told you people you to cover head to toe please do that and give whatever logic you want its funny how islamacized Hindus and Sikhs have become. for tens of thousands of years, hindus and Indians were okay with less clothes and at-least top nudity. All our cave and rock art show topless women. We have travellers like the Portuguese, Ibn Battuta, etc. all say that even ROYAL ladies were topless in most of the time. Which is not rocket science - in hot and humid climate, nobody wants to get sweatier than they have to. we grew up with our dadis and aunties not wearing blouse or bras, just using the sari dupatta to cover and if it fell off when they are cooking, no big deal. Mohammed would be proud at the Sanskaari hindus today - propagating Islamic views on nudity without even knowing so. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted_User_1 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Singh bling said: A home is not like regular workplace.It is a place for which you spent crores of rupees or pay thousands in rent so you can live comfortably.Most maids work in it part time so logic of comparing it with other workplace is wrong. Moreover in malls guards , salesman , sweepers work in much larger numbers . If I apply your logic then a man should go wearing kachcha and banyan in mall rather than resting it in his home because his maid is feeling uncomfortable. So charity begins at home you and your fellow male feminists please ask Radhika vaz what clothes you should wear At home or outside .If she told you people you to cover head to toe please do that and give whatever logic you want You lack basic comprehension about the power structure between an employer and a employee or between two employees. In your house, a maid is your employee. Go find a maid who is going to be comfortable you parading around naked or semi-naked inside the house. Otherwise, if you maid creates a fuss, learn to deal with it. In a mall, the guards, sales clerk, sweepers, do not work for the average mall goer. There is no employee-employer relationship between the two kinds. If someone is wearing skimpy clothes, that person is not in the power structure that affects the mall employee. However, if one sales clerk comes to work wearing skimpy clothes and other employees or his/her employer feels uncomfortable, then there is a problem because it is happening in THEIR work environment. This is not the same as an average mall goer and someone who works at the mall. Looks like this is a bit too much for your backward mind. So let's just end the debate here. Please continue to look at the other gender through your myopic eyes, but rest assured that women are not ready to bark any more at your command necessarily. Times are changing. Edited October 20, 2018 by dandaroy beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted_User_1 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Muloghonto said: its funny how islamacized Hindus and Sikhs have become. for tens of thousands of years, hindus and Indians were okay with less clothes and at-least top nudity. All our cave and rock art show topless women. We have travellers like the Portuguese, Ibn Battuta, etc. all say that even ROYAL ladies were topless in most of the time. Which is not rocket science - in hot and humid climate, nobody wants to get sweatier than they have to. we grew up with our dadis and aunties not wearing blouse or bras, just using the sari dupatta to cover and if it fell off when they are cooking, no big deal. Mohammed would be proud at the Sanskaari hindus today - propagating Islamic views on nudity without even knowing so. It is classic reverse gender discrimination. The males, especially in India, have had a death grip over the other gender and now as the grip is slipping, they cry foul. Oh the poor soul of these men having to look at women with skimpy outfits and not be able to molest them or having to cover up in front of a woman. Oh the horror, the horror! UrmiSinhaRay and beetle 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 24 minutes ago, dandaroy said: It is classic reverse gender discrimination. The males, especially in India, have had a death grip over the other gender and now as the grip is slipping, they cry foul. Oh the poor soul of these men having to look at women with skimpy outfits and not be able to molest them or having to cover up in front of a woman. Oh the horror, the horror! heh. Just wish the sanghis and sanskaaris realized that they are unwittingly propagating Islamic morality on sex, body, clothing than our ancestors that they are so eager to identify with. beetle and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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