Two of India's best ODI middle order bats of the 2000s, Yuvraj and Raina, were picked for India at age 18. Should we do the same with Shubman Gill?

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

Shubman Gill's stats this season in both first-class and List A cricket were good but there were others who performed even better than him. Do you take that punt on him because of his potential ahead of other older players who performed better? The hope being that he would improve exponentially playing at the international level, the same way that Yuvraj Singh, Suresh Raina and Virat Kohli among others improved.

[sscomp32]

The greatest White ball batsman was also picked at 18 after a winning u19wc campaign. Should do the same to him IMO. But with WC next its a risky proposition. And with captain having fixed his no 4, he has no slot to play. Has to wait anyhow. :( 

[express bowling]

Very risky with Kohli as the captain. He is not a good mentor to youngsters if he feels that there are other experienced options available to him. He also lacks the patience to give a youngster a decent run with other players available.

 

Look at the Khaleel case.  Khaleel, Shami and Shardul were originally picked for ODIs. Umesh came in as a replacement ...  but played both games while Khaleel sat out in the 2nd,  although Umesh was not thought to be good in the first place while Khaleel was.  Moreover Umesh is a TTF in ODIs.

 

Someone like Shaw may get some backing in tests as experienced Dhawan, Vijay and Rahul have let him down. Similarly, Pant maybe backed in tests as there is no other proper WK batsman available in tests now.

 

All this points towards a lack of clarity of thought to some extent. I fear that, with many experienced middle-order options avalable although they are mediocre,  Gill  may be mishandled and his confidence may take a beating.

 

 

Edited October 26, 2018 by express bowling

[Rightarmfast]

/\ Agree. Kohli is very poor with people management. Also he is an autocrat, arrogant and dumb. And its a lethal combination to have.  But I do believe not only Gill, Siraj, Avesh, Mavi, Nagarkotti, all of them should be given a chance. Whats the point of waiting for them to grow old?

[putrevus]

25 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

/\ Agree. Kohli is very poor with people management. Also he is an autocrat, arrogant and dumb. And its a lethal combination to have.  But I do believe not only Gill, Siraj, Avesh, Mavi, Nagarkotti, all of them should be given a chance. Whats the point of waiting for them to grow old?

Are the fast bowlers in your list playing domestic list A and how are they doing.

[Rightarmfast]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

Are the fast bowlers in your list playing domestic list A and how are they doing.

Wheres my list?

[wanted_desi]

They say that they cant pick new players as World Cup is few months away. Does it mean that they will drop Rayadu, Dhawan, Dhoni, Rohit, Jhadav right after World Cup to prep for 2023?

[mishra]

Kohli will always select mediocrity. I dont expect anything good from him.

[mishra]

55 minutes ago, wanted_desi said:

They say that they cant pick new players as World Cup is few months away. Does it mean that they will drop Rayadu, Dhawan, Dhoni, Rohit, Jhadav right after World Cup to prep for 2023?

Four years back, they didnt knew there will be a world cup in 2019.

[kohli]

35 minutes ago, mishra said:

Four years back, they didnt knew there will be a world cup in 2019.

I feel dhoni Will continue after 2019 wc.

[mishra]

3 minutes ago, kohli said:

I feel dhoni Will continue after 2019 wc.

BCCI is under RTI now. Someone should enquire about this Dhonis mission 2023.

[Vk1]

Gill as an odi player is more suited for nbr 3 or opener role as of now. There's no vacancy there. Playing at 4 will be tough on him since he will barely get any chance 

[Ankit_sharma03]

its better for gill to play India -A n Domestic games, If selected for India he ll warm bench only 

Gill is at a stage where he shud play Max no of games.

Its best to stay with dravid for A-tours then be under kohli for national team

[Nikola]

Kohli was already a poor captain and man manager but to prove himself better he gone worse and brought Shastri back as coach and now are stucked with both along with Dhoni who deals selection with PR rate not Run Rate.

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

16 hours ago, Vk1 said:

Playing at 4 will be tough on him since he will barely get any chance 

If he's selected in the XI, the No. 4 position does give you enough chance. It's sort of a hybrid position where you need the qualities of both a top order batsman scoring big runs but also the attacking mindset to score quick runs in the final 15 overs.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Bhai logo gill ke sapne dekhna chodho

AAj rahane ne 100 maara hai, bas buri news ka intezaar kro 

[Vk1]

2 hours ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

If he's selected in the XI, the No. 4 position does give you enough chance. It's sort of a hybrid position where you need the qualities of both a top order batsman scoring big runs but also the attacking mindset to score quick runs in the final 15 overs.

Yeah he's still young.. will be hard on him to play the attacking finisher role at times

 

[mishra]

Dont worry, They will be  picked again