putrevus Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Some mysterious aspects of his bowling has made him better. See the red flags for both Pandya brothers is Hardik was playing for India has an allrounder but hardly did played that role for IPL team or his state Ranji trophy team. Krunal's batting made headline with his IPL team again it is not like he was hit at great SR. Both are just bits and pieces players, Hardilk has more utility due to his bowling .I don't think either of them are that must for world cup.I have no confidence in Hardik Pandya's batting against fast bowlers and his bowling is not that great where he can fill fifth bowler's role. Edited January 17, 2019 by putrevus Link to comment
maniac Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Jadeja is the greatest free loader in LOI. I have never seen him perform with the bat or ball in the shorter formats but for some strange reason Gavaskar, Bhogle,Manjrekar etc etc all keep orgasming about his batting “fire power” low down the order SecondSlip, Stan AF and Laaloo 3 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 hours ago, putrevus said: How is he better in bowling. Kruanl is part timer where as Jadeja is legtimate left arm spinner whose forte is accuracy. No one knows how well Pandya can hit international bowling.Jadeja has 3 triple hundreds. How Many matches has jadeja won in 11 years with his batting? I can only name on every instance. Answer me This. If jadeja is the onl prominent batsman at the crease, what target do you think India has a chance to win? 12 off 15? 20 off 23? 25 off 18? As a bowler too he has always freeloaded off other bowlers. Hes a better fielder than hes a bowler and lol at 3 ranking trophy 300s. We have been questioning his ass for so many years now on how he scored all those with his pathetic batting. speedheat 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Jaddu can easily be stifled with bouncers. I never bank on his batting. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) My problem with Krunal is, he is a pie-chucker. He is at best a 6th bowling option. Not 5th bowling option. Both are not exactly ideal for us. Big hitting all rounder chahal should replace them Edited January 17, 2019 by vvvslaxman Link to comment
bowl_out Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Jadeja for Tests Krunal for T20 Neither for ODIs putrevus 1 Link to comment
speedheat Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 9 hours ago, putrevus said: How is he better in bowling. Kruanl is part timer where as Jadeja is legtimate left arm spinner whose forte is accuracy. No one knows how well Pandya can hit international bowling.Jadeja has 3 triple hundreds. Krunal is better bowler, better guile flight and control in his bowling than jadja, has all the assets of proper spinner not a part timer as you have mentioned. Still untested at international though he did well in those 3 t20is he played. Krunal to me looks mentally tougher than jadeja, surely no one knows how well he can hit international bowling but how would you know this unless you try him? have you seen jadeja batting under pressure? How many matches has he won for us, seen that drawn Afghanistan odi and how got choked in the end? Laaloo 1 Link to comment
Stan AF Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Kuldeep & Chahal only for odis/t20is. We can close this thread now. SK_IH 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, speedheat said: Krunal is better bowler, better guile flight and control in his bowling than jadja, has all the assets of proper spinner not a part timer as you have mentioned. Still untested at international though he did well in those 3 t20is he played. Krunal to me looks mentally tougher than jadeja, surely no one knows how well he can hit international bowling but how would you know this unless you try him? have you seen jadeja batting under pressure? How many matches has he won for us, seen that drawn Afghanistan odi and how got choked in the end? Thats why he was tonked for 55 runs in first T20.He is a part timer nothing more, he cannot finishe 4 overs forget finishing 10. India needs their bowling more than their batting.Jadeja wins contest that by a mile. Edited January 18, 2019 by putrevus UrmiSinhaRay and prasen82 1 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 This should be Jadeja's last ODI match for a while. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) If they have proper 4,5,6 .They can play Kulcha and make bowling stronger.I don't think India has chance in out batting other teams .Guys like Pandya or Jadeja sould be playing in odis. Edited January 18, 2019 by putrevus UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 46 minutes ago, putrevus said: Thats why he was tonked for 55 runs in first T20.He is a part timer nothing more, he cannot finishe 4 overs forget finishing 10. India needs their bowling more than their batting.Jadeja wins contest that by a mile. Are you really basing this off one game and that too being his debut? Do you remember that t20 in 2009 or 2012 where Australia hit 6 sixes in 6 balls off of jadeja? What about Krunal’s batting in the 2nd t20? He looked more convincing that jadeja ever did in 10 years. The guy has won us one match while batting in 10 years. He’s a hack. Real McCoy 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Laaloo said: Are you really basing this off one game and that too being his debut? Do you remember that t20 in 2009 or 2012 where Australia hit 6 sixes in 6 balls off of jadeja? What about Krunal’s batting in the 2nd t20? He looked more convincing that jadeja ever did in 10 years. The guy has won us one match while batting in 10 years. He’s a hack. I am not saying Jadeja is answer.But he is better than Krunal the bowler, Krunal is just a part time who will tonked most of the matches. Jadeja is hack of first order but if they have to choose Krunal or Jadeja, I will choose Jadeja for simple reason Jadeja is better bowler.They need fifth bowler more than no 7 batsman. Fifth/fourth bowler have to bowl 10 overs every match.I will drop both and play Kulcha and give Gill a chance a no4 and hope he is goods. Link to comment
Laaloo Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, putrevus said: I am not saying Jadeja is answer.But he is better than Krunal the bowler, Krunal is just a part time who will tonked most of the matches. Jadeja is hack of first order but if they have to choose Krunal or Jadeja, I will choose Jadeja for simple reason Jadeja is better bowler.They need fifth bowler more than no 7 batsman. Fifth/fourth bowler have to bowl 10 overs every match.I will drop both and play Kulcha and give Gill a chance a no4 and hope he is goods. CT 2017 should have been the end of jadeja LOI career. I’m not a huge fan of Krunal either but we need to see what we have with him. He showed he deserves more chances. We already know jadeja disbelief a better fielder than he is a bowler than he is a batter. rahulrulezz, Real McCoy and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Laaloo said: CT 2017 should have been the end of jadeja LOI career. I’m not a huge fan of Krunal either but we need to see what we have with him. He showed he deserves more chances. We already know jadeja disbelief a better fielder than he is a bowler than he is a batter. I agree with you.People forget this quest for so called allrounder is caused due to ineptness of Dhoni along with other bozos who bat in middle order.If they had solid top five and WK who can bat instead of tuk tuk they would have played Kulcha in every match. Pandya bros bowling is needed more than their batting in short formats thats why they are not right fit. Today's match felt like that match in WI where Dhoni dragged it to last over against SL.They were nine wickets down then and today they were just 3 wickets down. I am hoping Gill gets his chane in NZ and he scores a 100 and makes it difficult for them to drop him.Gill and Pant at 4 and 5 will infuse this team with some youth and also some power.They should select both Pandya bros in 14. Edited January 18, 2019 by putrevus Laaloo 1 Link to comment
GautiMaan Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 13 hours ago, Laaloo said: CT 2017 should have been the end of jadeja LOI career. I’m not a huge fan of Krunal either but we need to see what we have with him. He showed he deserves more chances. We already know jadeja disbelief a better fielder than he is a bowler than he is a batter. Ah..yes the CT horror,how he managed to sneak back in the squad and the team is a mystery.Jadeja's batting is useless at number 8,even if Krunal is not the answer,either play the wristspinners or even Shankar Laaloo 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 In T20I I will pick Nitish Rana over these two. Dude can smack the ball & bowl couple of overs if needed. Link to comment
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