Hardik Pandya and KL Rahul suspended pending inquiry for their comments in Koffee with Karan

[zen]

9 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

These two are lucky. If this was some western country then some females would have turned up in media and said they had relation with her and would have demanded huge amount to withdraw a case or shut up. Tiger Woods? 

 

If few women now turn up against these two boys then their careers will be screwed totally.  

That is b/w these two and the girls .... and did they take any names? Or forced themselves on girls? do you know if they did not pay the girls in someway (gifts for e.g.) for their services (assuming none of them were in a serious relationship)? Is one night stand considered as a relationship? 

Edited January 11, 2019 by zen

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, slogger said:

imagine if a bollywood so called actress would have boasted about such things. Everyone would have supported her in the name of modernity and equality and called her "liberated women". There would have been no outrage and bollywood women and so called modern women also say such things many times and even worse. They also objectify men. So many insulting words are said against men in tv serials and movies.

Why are you speculating , I don't think other than few NBA and NFL players anyone has given statements like these .They were roasted for it even in country like America.

[ShoonyaSifar]

They are not coming back anytime sooner. Will not be surprised if their ban is extended to IPL and then to WC as well. 

 

[slogger]

1 minute ago, putrevus said:

Why are you speculating , I don't think other than few NBA and NFL players anyone has given statements like these .They were roasted for it even in country like America.

you need to read some of the interviews of bollywood women. There is also a indian women running a youtube channel in which she made a video "picking up men in the gym"

[raki05]

17 minutes ago, zen said:

No one supports indecent behavior but it is a show where even Saif, a royal, said that "give me money and I will give you my daughter (something to that order)" so it is NOT to be taken at face value (as common sense dictates that he is not going to do that) .... i would not throw stones at a porn star for acting in a porn movie, where presumably everyone is consenting, while praising a known pedophile for example because he happens to be someone useful

 

Note that I am one of the biggest supporter for women (also animal, children, old ppl, environment, etc) rights and fight for their cause. I donate money for various causes. You can even see multiple threads started by me even on this forum on such subjects

 

One should be shameful for using terms such as rape, gangbanged, BC, MC, etc. (you will never find me using such words), esp. if they care about being indecent and in a country where women are at peril .... I do not think Pandya used such words. He only did satire on him and his family on a shady platform 

 

 

 And I admire you for that. where as in this case we make opinion abt people that they are hypocrite but they are not that foolish while they judge people. Kohli do lot of mc bc during match but that is in a high intensity situation you hardly see anyone criticizing it but if he does same thing on a tv show or on a public forum he ll be criticize for it as well. I don't think pandya and kl did some  crime and I am not at all supporting their ban for such bakchodi. But all I am saying is he looked  moron (and a dehati chicoda who suddenly become rich and doesn't know how to handle things) during the show while he said such stuff involving his parentts.

Edited January 11, 2019 by raki05

[ShoonyaSifar]

3 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Why are you speculating , I don't think other than few NBA and NFL players anyone has given statements like these .They were roasted for it even in country like America.

Did you watch the talk shows which promoted a movie called Veere Di Wedding? Actresses openly talking about masturbation, self pleasure (absolutely nothing wrong in that) were hailed as feminist icons. Irony is those same people who called that movie path breaking have led the online outrage against Pandya and Rahul which started as Sachin fans targeting them before the feminist gang took over for objectifying women.

[zen]

4 minutes ago, raki05 said:

 And I admire you for that. where as in this case we make opinion abt people that they are hypocrite but they are not that foolish while they judge people. Kohli do lot of mc bc during match but that is in a high intensity situation you hardly see anyone criticize ing it but if he does same thing on a tv show or on a public forum he ll be criticize for it. I don't th8nk he did some big crime and I not at all support their ban for such bakchodi. But all I am saying is he looked  moron (and a dehati chicoda who suddenly become rich and doesn't know how to handle things) during the show while he said such stuff involving his parentts.

Note that for cricketers, a cricket field is a public platform where Kohli is the Ind captain .... on the other hand, a TV show or an ad could be done in a personal capacity ..... probably Kohli is not being called up so far is because it does not appear to be targeted at anyone (not everyone understands it. And Indians like to cover for their fav players). But ideally, he should be reprimanded 

Edited January 11, 2019 by zen

[zen]

For e.g. below is a masterbation scene is discussed on a talk show .... people don't mind it because it is done on a platform that is known to discuss such topics and has its target audience (others like feminazis don't barge in) 

 

 

Edited January 11, 2019 by zen

[ShoonyaSifar]

1 minute ago, zen said:

Note that for cricketers, a cricket field is a public platform where Kohli is the Ind captain .... on the other hand, a TV show or an ad could be done in a personal capacity ..... probably Kohli is not being called up so far is because it does not appear to be targeted at anyone (not everyone understands it. And Indians like to cover for their fav players). But ideally, he should be reprimanded 

It is coming. The online mob has tasted blood. They know BCCI now is being run by jokers who are incompetent. Expect targeted attacks on Kohli for his minor misdemeanours. 

[Straight Drive]

2 minutes ago, zen said:

That is b/w these two and the girls .... and did they take any names? Or forced themselves on girls? 

Did Tiger Woods really enjoy with everyone who started coming up in media. I don't remember the exact count but think there were more than 5 who came up against him. 

 

Didn't watch the show so not aware whether he took names.  But even if names have not been taken, if the real ones whom they enjoyed with or even fake opportunist turn up in media to make millions using this opportunity,  then it's going to be a huge blow for them. Opportunist will try to convert a consensual sex into something dramatic or even if they have not had sex some one may just use the opportunity.  The problem is that if the ones who they were hitting on have no respectable background or family to worry about then they might as well turn consensual fun into something else.

 

 

[raki05]

Just now, zen said:

Note that for cricketers, a cricket field is a public platform where Kohli is the Ind captain .... on the other hand, a TV show or an ad could be done in a personal capacity ..... probably Kohli is not being called up so far is because it does not appear to be targeted to anyone. But ideally, he should be reprimanded 

But people expect that when you are drunk , or in a fight or in intense situation u abuse sometime but not intended or directed towards someone. It's just the heat of the moment .....morethan where he said what he said is moronic do u think anyone brag abt banging a chick on a tv espexially when you are a known national cricketer. 

[zen]

2 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

Did Tiger Woods really enjoy with everyone who started coming up in media. I don't remember the exact count but think there were more than 5 who came up against him. 

 

Didn't watch the show so not aware whether he took names.  But even if names have not been taken, if the real ones whom they enjoyed with or even fake opportunist turn up in media to make millions using this opportunity,  then it's going to be a huge blow for them. Opportunist will try to convert a consensual sex into something dramatic or even if they have not had sex some one may just use the opportunity.  The problem is that if the ones who they were hitting on have no respectable background or family to worry about then they might as well turn consensual fun into something else.

 

 

sounds like different issues 

[Franco Vazquez]

I think their punishment in the West would have been way worse. There's a reason why teams like England, Australia keep their players away from media.

[zen]

9 minutes ago, raki05 said:

But people expect that when you are drunk , or in a fight or in intense situation u abuse sometime but not intended or directed towards someone. It's just the heat of the moment .....morethan where he said what he said is moronic do u think anyone brag abt banging a chick on a tv espexially when you are a known national cricketer. 

I do not use bad language .... in companies where i have worked people stopped / limited using such words casually too after watching how I go around .... But I am an outlier as people, who come in contact with me, are impacted by me for e.g. people also start dressing like I do. Brands that I wear should hire me as their model as what I wear (if in the regular price range) becomes popular in the environment I am in .... I do not like these copycats. It is not even funny anymore 

Edited January 11, 2019 by zen

[Vilander]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

What kind of host is Karan Johar asking these kind of stupid questions.

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[putrevus]

16 minutes ago, slogger said:

you need to read some of the interviews of bollywood women. There is also a indian women running a youtube channel in which she made a video "picking up men in the gym"

Do you think some random women on some youtube channel saying something is same as these two national cricketers saying these crude and disgusting remarks on national TV.

[rtmohanlal]

35 minutes ago, slogger said:

BTW who is this edulji? from which hole did this creature came out? never heard about this name before. Is she parsi or bengali or someone else?

a product of shameless  incompetency ,  nepotism  and nothing else.

[putrevus]

17 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Did you watch the talk shows which promoted a movie called Veere Di Wedding? Actresses openly talking about masturbation, self pleasure (absolutely nothing wrong in that) were hailed as feminist icons. Irony is those same people who called that movie path breaking have led the online outrage against Pandya and Rahul which started as Sachin fans targeting them before the feminist gang took over for objectifying women.

Don't you think there is difference between talking about self pleasure and being horn dogs on prowl. This is about common human decency.

 

It is not about being fans of any particular player/players.Why are draging Sachin into it.He was a model citizen.

[Vilander]

On 1/10/2019 at 12:47 PM, saik said:

 

 

[Vilander]

so does any of the snowflakes burning with rage in social media know exactly what Pandya said in the show ?