KL Rahul vs Shreyas Iyer for number 4 spot in ODIs

[putrevus]

Mornic selectors and Kohli should have selected Iyer for world cup.He should number 4 , yes he has some issues with short ball, which batsman does not have a weakness.

[Straight Drive]

Iyer missed a 50 there as the total was chased easily. 44 not out at strike rate of 125.71. Good innings this as it came in the series decider.

[Straight Drive]

21 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Mornic selectors and Kohli should have selected Iyer for world cup.He should number 4 , yes he has some issues with short ball, which batsman does not have a weakness.

Yup. Probably selectors expect young cricketers to average 50 in ODI at strike rate of 103. Morons do not even back performers like Iyer. How will they back failing batsmen.

[putrevus]

2 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

Iyer missed a 50 there as the total was chased easily. 44 not out at strike rate of 125.71. Good innings this as it came in the series decider.

This innings will give Iyer lot of confidence.Kohli also looked overmatched against Fidel Edwards in WI against short pitch bowled but he worked on his weakness and became a great player.

 

Iyer should have been the no4 in world cup.

[sarcastic]

Great advertisement of healthy competition of spots between good contenders.

Now, they do not have to fight for one spot. They have made the number 4 and 5 positions their own. 

Kudos to Iyer and Rahul for phenomenal display of sportsmanship and grabbing opportunities with both hands!!!

[vvvslaxman]

Anchor role doesn't suit Rahul. He is at his best when he is this free stroking player.

[Straight Drive]

Another wonderful knock at 4. Have been saying he's best for No. 4 in ODI.

[Ankit_sharma03]

In terms of batsmanship KL is far better then iyer he shud be getting more balls , im ok if he bats at 5 for someone like gill but he is better then iyer .

[Ankit_sharma03]

twice KL has showed he has that extra gear which someone like ABDV, yuvraj had not someone like  Kohli and he if he had 30-40 balls more he cud have score way more. 

[Adamant]

27 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

twice KL has showed he has that extra gear which someone like ABDV, yuvraj had not someone like  Kohli and he if he had 30-40 balls more he cud have score way more. 

Why are u trying to screw a good middle order. 

Shreyas iyer isnt dynamic enough to bat at 5, he needs to play at 4.

This logic of having more balls is flawed, rahul looks nervous when he opens and has a str rate in low 80s or 70s even though he has all the time in the world. 

[RajBan]

I am fine with Iyer at 4 and KL at 5. It's working for both of them and benefitting the team. Given Rahul is better timer if the ball, it makes sense to send him at 4 if we are already in the 35th over. Iyer looks like need little bit more time and more suited to 10-35th over.

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Why are u trying to screw a good middle order. 

Shreyas iyer isnt dynamic enough to bat at 5, he needs to play at 4.

This logic of having more balls is flawed, rahul looks nervous when he opens and has a str rate in low 80s or 70s even though he has all the time in the world. 

how is giving better batsman more balls screwing middle order ?

If logic of having more balls is screwed why does most team bats their best player in top 3

 

Rahul problem is not nervous- its TM who have told him to bat like that bangar has told in commentary

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

High time we have a thread on his shots 

 

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

Iyer is providing stability in the middle overs. He doesn't get bowled, leg befores like some of our guys do in crunch games. He survives somehow.  Dinesh karthik would often come and pray for 5 minutes then will do some fishing  before eventually edging one through to keeper. Compared to no.4 in world cricket he is a much better choice.

[Global.Baba]

Looked like a tailender yesterday for a brief time but kudos on making it count 

[ganeshran]

52 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Iyer is providing stability in the middle overs. He doesn't get bowled, leg befores like some of our guys do in crunch games. He survives somehow.  Dinesh karthik would often come and pray for 5 minutes then will do some fishing  before eventually edging one through to keeper. Compared to no.4 in world cricket he is a much better choice.

The key is the trend line. You cant expect any youngster to come as a finished product but to see whether he improves.  Iyer definitely has earned more chances but it's also up to him to keep improving.

 

But after a long time our middle order is finally looking stable and not collapsing like a heap of cards which is an encouraging sign. It may be a blessing in disguise that Rohit got injured and middle order has more responsibility 

[vvvslaxman]

2 hours ago, ganeshran said:

The key is the trend line. You cant expect any youngster to come as a finished product but to see whether he improves.  Iyer definitely has earned more chances but it's also up to him to keep improving.

 

But after a long time our middle order is finally looking stable and not collapsing like a heap of cards which is an encouraging sign. It may be a blessing in disguise that Rohit got injured and middle order has more responsibility 

One of the biggest isssue during our hunt for no.4 was they never backed themselves to bat till the end. 30 or 40 that's it. Only one guy who probably would have done that.But he won't hit boundaries till 50th over lol Pandya, karthik, Pant all short fuse players. Then we have this selfish group who play with limitations. Rayudu.  Shankar is 30 or 40 run guy.  Manish pandey won't produce big overs in the end in case if he stays. If Iyer can bowl a few leggies there is nothing better than that. Real pedigree batsmen like Gill, Shaw are other options. Gill probably can be used. But we have no.6 spot is also open.

[R!TTER]

19 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

how is giving better batsman more balls screwing middle order ?

If logic of having more balls is screwed why does most team bats their best player in top 3

 

Rahul problem is not nervous- its TM who have told him to bat like that bangar has told in commentary

100% this, there's no way someone who can score the (joint?) fastest 50 in IPL can suddenly become a puss in 10 overs of PP in ODI 

 

And that pathetic guy needs to be kept away from the setup as much as possible, heck cheers leader as well but we have Brat to contend with 

Edited February 6, 2020 by R!TTER

[Majestic]

In ODIs, their career stands as :-

 

KL Rahul- Matches 45, AVG 45, SR 87

S Iyer - Matches 33, AVG 48, SR 98

 

You would think S Iyer must have played more games vs minnows but it is the other way round. Rahul has played 9 games vs Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and Afghanistan combined while Iyer is yet to play vs Zimbabwe, BD or Afghanistan.

 

These stats just put into perspective how big an underachiever KL Rahul is due to his poor form every now and then and injuries.

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, Majestic said:

In ODIs, their career stands as :-

 

KL Rahul- Matches 45, AVG 45, SR 87

S Iyer - Matches 33, AVG 48, SR 98

 

You would think S Iyer must have played more games vs minnows but it is the other way round. Rahul has played 9 games vs Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and Afghanistan combined while Iyer is yet to play vs Zimbabwe, BD or Afghanistan.

 

These stats just put into perspective how big an underachiever KL Rahul is due to his poor form every now and then and injuries.

 

Wow didn't know such a thread existed. Nice bump. When KL was new he was considered boom or bust. Basically he would score a single digit score or score a 50.  Even now he has the highest percentage of single digit scores among prominent Indians.  30% of his scores are single digits. Against SENA it is 36%. Basically he has a single digit score every third innings.  Others are either low 20s or mid 20s. Iyer is 20%.  This makes him a totally unreliable batsman. He can let you down any time.  By now he should have attained his peak where he should be able to reel off multiple 50s, 100s in one series. Actually KL Rahul did that early in his career. Scoring 8 fifties in a row or something. Then his weakness against incoming ball was spotted. Got out many times and ironically displaced by his buddy Agarwal who made a 50 in boxing day Test.  He should be trustworthy. Pakistan trusts Babar because he has only 11% of single digit scores in the one dayers.  He is a senior. He should shoulder more responsibility.